All Means ALL Inclusive Education
Sarolyn Pericohearn
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Join two inclusive education enthusiasts, Carolyn O'Hearn and Sara Pericolosi, as they explore how families, educators, community members, advocates, and individuals can work together to create inclusive learning environments for all learners. The podcast dives deeper into practical ways to support inclusion in education. Each episode discusses strategies and perspectives for building schools and communities where every learner belongs.
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Episode 90: From Auto-Pilot to Purpose: Shifting School Culture One Conversation at a Time 15.09.2026 19dkAre you stepping into the school year feeling overwhelmed by the endless to-do lists, navigating resistance, and slipping into quick problem-solving mode? It’s easy to let culture-building take a backseat when every task feels urgent. But what if the secret to transforming your school culture isn't a massive new initiative, but the everyday, micro-conversations you’re already having? In this episode we engage in a reflective deep dive into our summer book study on Growth Talk by Chris Munro and Jon Campbell. We unpack the power of intentional coaching, staying curious longer, and moving away from fixing every problem for others. Sign up to join Sarolyn as they participate in the Cactus to Coast (and Beyond!) Book Club on Elena Aguilar’s new release, How to Coach Resistance: Turning Pushback into Possibility.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Here is the transcript for Episode 90: From Auto-Pilot to Purpose: Shifting School Culture One Conversation at a Time -
Episode 89: We're Back! 01.09.2026 15dkAfter a brief hiatus that included resting, resetting, and enjoying our summer with our families, Carolyn & Sara are kicking off SEASON 5 (whaaaat). Listen in for a quick "hello" and what to expect this season. We've missed you and we're ready for this next chapter!
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Episode 88: Seeing the Unseen: Building Empathy in Education 07.04.2026 13dkEvery student, parent, and educator carries an invisible backpack filled with experiences, challenges, and untold stories.In this episode, we explore the concept of the “invisible backpack,” introduced by David Edward Garcia, and how these unseen burdens shape communication, behavior, and connection in educational spaces.By learning to recognize what isn’t immediately visible, we can build deeper empathy, improve relationships, and create more supportive, responsive learning environments.Whether you're in the classroom or supporting someone who is, this conversation will challenge you to listen more closely and lead with understanding.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Here is the transcript for Episode 88: Seeing the Unseen: Building Empathy in Education
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Episode 87: Three Years Later - What We’ve Learned and What’s Next 17.03.2026 14dkJoin us as we reflect on three years of All Means ALL, where we started, how our vision has evolved, and what continues to ground us in inclusive education. We share what it’s looked like to revisit and refine our mission over time, and how radical collaboration has shaped our work in meaningful ways.We also get practical, highlighting simple tools like visual planning frameworks to help prioritize big ideas, and we keep it real about balancing work, family, and passion projects.At the heart of it all is community. The network we’ve built over the past three years has been a source of energy, learning, and support, reminding us again and again that this work is better, and stronger when we do it together.We wrap up with a look ahead, including website updates, expanded resource sharing, and an upcoming book study on coaching in schools.Whether you’ve been here from the start or are just joining us, we’re glad you’re here.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Here is the transcript for Episode 87: Three Years Later - What We’ve Learned and What’s Next.
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Episode 86: We Can ... and We Will. 17.02.2026 15dkYou've heard it time and time again: you can only control the controllables. But when you're in the thick of the work and things feel heavy, it can be hard to pull yourself out and see the end goal. Sometimes showing up is half the work - but then imposter syndrome kicks in! We've got an affirmation for you and your team to use to keep going when it gets rough. Say it with us: We can and we will; we've done this and we'll do it again. Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Here is the transcript for Episode 86: We Can and We Will.
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Episode 85: ATIA 2026 - Day 1 29.01.2026 9dkWe're together in Orlando at ATIA 2026! In this recap episode, we reflect on coming full circle, returning to the conference where All Means ALL first began four years ago. Listen in as we share what makes ATIA such a powerful space for learning and connection.We talk about the magic of hallway conversations, networking across states, and why conferences aren’t just about sessions, but about people. Carolyn shares key takeaways from a session on AAC and belonging, sparking a deeper conversation about the difference between access and true inclusion. Together, we unpack why access is just the starting line, how belonging must be intentionally designed, and what the “next step” looks like for educators, SLPs, families, and systems supporting AAC users.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!Here is the transcript for Episode 85: ATIA 2026 - Day 1
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Busting Myths & Spreading Literacy Love with Maureen Donnelly (Part 2) 20.01.2026 18dkJoin us as we wrap up our myth busting conversation with Maureen Donnelly, Director of Curriculum at Building Wings, Inc. If you haven't (yet) listened to Episode 83, we'd encourage you to do so before listening in. We are grateful for Marueen's willingness to share her knowledge, wisdom, and passion about comprehensive literacy for ALL with us!Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!Here is the transcript for Episode 84: Busting Myths & Spreading Literacy Love with Maureen Donnelly (Part 2)
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Busting Myths & Spreading Literacy Love with Maureen Donnelly (Part 1) 06.01.2026 22dkGrab your favorite beverage and settle in because this episode is a good one! We’re joined by Maureen Donnelly, Director of Curriculum at Building Wings, Inc., for an eye-opening (and myth-busting) conversation about teaching students with complex needs how to read, write, and communicate. Together, we tackle some of the most common misconceptions educators run into and gently (okay, sometimes not so gently) set the record straight.Maureen also shares one of her favorite resources, and one of ours, Comprehensive Literacy for All by Karen Erickson and David Koppenhaver. Whether you’re brand new to their work or have been following the research for years, this episode is packed with practical insights, affirmations, and plenty of “Yes, that!” moments.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!Here is the transcript for Episode 83: Busting Myths & Spreading Literacy Love with Maureen Donnelly (Part 1)
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Episode 83: A Little Bit of History; A Lotta Bit of Hope (with special guest Kelly Fonner) 02.12.2025 22dkDuring this episode, Carolyn and Sara connect with THE Kelly Fonner - notable AT maker, presenter, mentor... knower and doer of ALL the things. They chat about Kelly's introduction into the world of education, how learning about AT is best by doing, and the power of networking at conferences. Kelly speaks about QIAT (Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology) - check them out and start the conversation with your team about your current reality (i.e., where are you now) and potential next steps (i.e., where can you go). Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!
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Episode 82: Belief, Success, and Opportunity - Part 2 with Don Johnston 18.11.2025 16dkIn this continuation of our conversation with Don Johnston, founder of Building Wings, we dive even deeper into what it means to believe in every learner’s potential. Don shares how one teacher’s high expectations changed the course of his life and how that belief continues to shape his mission today: creating tools that help every student experience success through reading, writing, and learning.Don reminds us that it’s never too late to learn and that belief is the first step toward meaningful opportunity for every student.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!Here is the transcript for Episode 82: Belief, Success, and Opportunity - Part 2 with Don Johnston
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Episode 81: Building Wings with Don Johnston (Part 1) 04.11.2025 14dkIn this first of a two-part conversation, we sit down with Don Johnston, founder of Don Johnston Inc. and now the creative force behind Building Wings. Don shares his journey from developing assistive technology to creating literacy-focused tools that honor the learning potential of every student.From his early collaborations to his ongoing work Don’s story reminds us what’s possible when we believe all students can learn to read, write, and communicate. Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!Here is the transcript for Episode 81: Building Wings with Don Johnston (Part 1)
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Episode 80: Closing the Gap - Day 2 24.10.2025 13dkJoin us for our recap of Day two of the Closing the Gap conference where we share our main takeaways including more about Comprehensive Literacy for All and the CITES Framework. We are wrapping up our time inspired to continue this work.- - - - - - - -Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!
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Episode 79: Closing the Gap - Day 1 23.10.2025 21dkCarolyn and Sara are back in person at the 43rd Annual Closing the Gap conference in Minneapolis, Minnesota! Tune in to hear about their first pre-conference session about coaching and the amazing sessions from Day 1. - - - - - - - -Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!
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Episode 78: Embracing the Heavy 07.10.2025 15dkThis school year has started with weight. From staff shortages to rising student complexities, many of us are navigating classrooms that feel heavier than usual. In this honest conversation, Sara and Carolyn sit down to talk about what it means to show up in those hard seasons.They share their own recent challenges as administrators, celebrate small wins, and reflect on the importance of humility, connection, and hope. If you're feeling stretched thin, you're not alone. This episode offers solidarity and a reminder that even in the heavy, there’s movement forward.- - - - - -Here's the Transcript for Episode 78: Embracing the HeavyThanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!
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Episode 77: Coaching for Success: Empowering Teams 29.09.2025 9dkIf you've focused on building capacity or shifting practices chances are you've heard something like, “We tried it and it didn’t work.” But what if our coaching conversations focused more on building trust?In this episode, we’re giving you a sneak peek into our Closing The Gap pre-conference session, Coaching for AAC Success: Empowering Teams. You’ll get a feel for the hands-on activities, hear how we apply adult learning truths and the GROWTH model, and find out why this isn’t just a session, it’s a full-on AAC coaching challenge.If you’ve ever wanted to help shift mindsets and implementation practices, this one’s for you! If you can't join us at Closing the Gap and want to learn more -- reach out to start the conversation!- - - - - -Here's the Transcript for Episode 77: Coaching for AAC Success: Empowering TeamsThanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!
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Episode 76: New Season, New School Year! (Season 4!) 16.09.2025 33dkWe're kicking off Season 4 with a bang! In this episode, Carolyn and Sara reflect on their journey to this point, working together as a team, and dreams coming true (new jobs, pre-conference workshops, all the fun!). Join us at Closing the Gap in Minneapolis, MN between October 21-24! Register for a pre-con and save on your registration/pre-con bundle!- - - - - - Here's the Transcript for Episode 76: New Season, New School Year! Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!
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Episode 75: MAASE - Day 2 12.08.2025 19dkIn this episode, Carolyn and Sara recap highlights from Day 2 of the Michigan Association of Administrators of Special Education (MAASE) Summer Institute. Connection is key, as is making sure the right voices are at the table... Also, when you golf, watch out for those geese (listen in to hear more). Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!Here is the transcript for Episode 75: MAASE - Day 2.
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Episode 74: MAASE 2025 - Day 1 12.08.2025 21dkCarolyn & Sara share insights from the Michigan Association of Administrators of Special Education (MAASE) Conference! Listen in as they discuss the importance of intentional leadership, building school culture, recognizing staff contributions, and fostering meaningful connections. Highlights include reflections on a keynote by Joe Sanfilippo, emphasizing that every interaction matters, and strategies for supporting staff and students.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!Here is the transcript for https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r453JODEn64lyHyeARNmgsPwqnTqbcHOpP1Lq8YAKMA/edit?usp=sharing
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Episode 73: Change is Hard, Y'all. 06.08.2025 16dkIn this episode, Carolyn gets vulnerable about when change doesn't happen as quickly or as seemlessly as you want. She reminds you to use data to drive decisions, value multiple perspectives, and be ready for the push back - and take advantage of the little yeses that may open the door for something bigger!Good luck this school year and keep doing all the great things! We are proud of YOU.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!Here is the transcript for Episode 73: Change is Hard, Y'all.
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Episode 72: Designing Professional Learning that Lasts 09.07.2025 30dkIn this episode, Sara and Carolyn dive into one of their favorite topics: designing professional learning that goes beyond the “sit and get.” They unpack what it takes to create intentional, engaging, and responsive learning experiences for educators - ones that not only spark mindset shifts but also support long-term changes in practice. Drawing from their years of experience and favorite conference takeaways, they share strategies for creating safe spaces, inviting vulnerability, and embedding implementation supports that make professional learning meaningful. Whether you’re facilitating professional learning for a district or presenting at a conference, this conversation will leave you reflecting on how to design with purpose, engage your audience, and keep the focus on real outcomes for students.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and now Bluesky!Here is the transcript for Episode 72: Designing Professional Learning that Lasts
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