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Outside Ourselves with Kelsi Klembara features conversations about God’s gift of faith. It explores what it means for saving faith to stand outside of our abilities and works. Kelsi discusses questions about the Christian faith with theologians and theology lovers. New episodes are released every other week. The podcast is part of the 1517 Podcast Network.
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Why Women Need Good Theology with Mary Van Weelden 21.07.2026 59dkContent Manager for Sola Media, Mary Van Weelden, joins Kelsi to talk about the importance of making sure Christian women receive sound theological teaching and training from the local church, especially in the digital age where Tiktok and Instagram influencers often serve as our guides to theology, life, and more. Mary Van Weelden is Content Manager at Sola Media, a graduate of Westminster Seminary California, a writer, a pastor’s wife, and a former journalist.Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Mary:Subscribe to Mary's SubstackFollow Mary on X -
The Crisis of Morality (and Importance of Christian Virtue) with Alan Noble 07.07.2026 55dkAuthor Alan Noble joins Kelsi to talk about the importance of Christian virtue, rooting virtue in the gospel and Noble's latest book, To Live Well: Practical Wisdom for Moving through Chaotic Times.Dr. O. Alan Noble is Associate Professor of English at Oklahoma Baptist University and author of numerous books and articles. Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Alan: Purchase To Live WellSubscribe to Alan's SubstackAlan's Website
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The Spiritual Search for More with Belle Tindall-Riley 23.06.2026 1sa 1dkKelsi talks with author and theologian, Belle Tindall-Riley, about her new book, The Sacred Ache, and Gen Z's search for the spiritual. Belle holds a Doctorate in Biblical Studies and her debut book, The Sacred Ache, was published in the UK June 2026. She is also editor-in-chief of The Mockingbird magazine. The Sacred Ache will be out in the U.S. early next year. Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Belle:Read Belle at Seen and UnseenBelle's PodcastFollow Belle on Instagram
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The Lutheran View of Baptism with Brian Thomas 08.06.2026 37dkKelsi interviews Pastor Brian W. Thomas about his latest book with 1517 Publishing, By Water and the Word: God's Gift of Baptism for You at the latest Northwest Arkansas HWSS conference. The book serves as a visual and written guide to the Lutheran view of baptism which Kelsi and Brian both argue lines up with the Scriptural view of baptism. Brian W. Thomas is the pastor of Grace Lutheran in San Diego, California. He frequently contributes to 1517 and has written several books, including Wittenberg vs. Geneva: A Biblical Bout in Seven Rounds on Doctrines that Divide and Clothed with Christ: A Biblical Style Guide for Sinners.Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Brian: Purchase By Water and the Word
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How to be Human with Carl Trueman 26.05.2026 46dkKelsi talks with church historian, professor, and author, Carl Trueman about his newest book, The Desecration of Man: How the Rejection of God Degrades Our Humanity. Carl R. Trueman (PhD, University of Aberdeen) is professor of biblical and religious studies at Grove City College. He is an esteemed church historian and previously served as the William E. Simon Fellow in Religion and Public Life at Princeton University. Trueman has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including The Creedal Imperative; Luther on the Christian Life; and Histories and Fallacies. Trueman is a member of The Orthodox Presbyterian Church.Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeOrder The Desecration of Man: How the Rejection of God Degrades Our Humanity by Carl Trueman
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The Future of Family with Scott Keith 12.05.2026 53dk1517 Executive Director Scott Keith joins Kelsi to discuss his new book, Being Family: Passing Down the Faith Through the Generations. Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeOrder Being Family by Scott Keith
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The Culture of God's Word with Hal Senkbeil and Lucas Woodford 28.04.2026 59dkKelsi chats with co-authors, Hal Senkbeil and Lucas Woodford of the newly released "The Culture of God's Word: Faithful Ministry in a Post-Christian Society." The duo talk about remaining faithful to the preaching of God's effective words of law and gospel no matter what ministry trends or cultural contexts surround us. They also discuss the importance of allowing the Word to supersede culture wars and the call for the church to embrace both hospitality and embodiment. Rev. Dr. Lucas V. Woodford, (MDiv, STM, DMin), is President of the Minnesota South District of the Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod and Associate Pastor of Trinity Lutheran Church, Farmington, MN. Dr. Woodford is a Fellow in the Collegium of DOXOLOGY: The Lutheran Center for Spiritual Care and Counsel, charged with research, writing, and speaking regarding the care of souls in the contemporary context. President Woodford is a husband to Becca and father to their seven children, five girls and two boys.Harold L. Senkbeil was born and raised on a Minnesota farm. His rural background has shaped his approach to work and people. He married Jane Frances Nesset in 1971. They are the parents of three and the grandparents of four. Harold was a parish pastor for 31 years prior to accepting a position as Associate Professor of Ministry and Mission at Concordia Theological Seminary, Fort Wayne, Indiana. Since 2008 he has served as Executive Director for Spiritual Care for DOXOLOGY: The Lutheran Center for Spiritual Care and Counsel and spends his time teaching and encouraging pastors to hone their skills in the ancient art of the cure of souls. Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Hal and Lucas:Order The Culture of God's WordSubscribe to Hal's SubstackFollow Hal on XFollow Lucas on XDoxology's Website
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Blaise Pascal: Faith, the Self, and Our Modern World with Graham Tomlin 14.04.2026 47dkGraham Tomlin joins Kelsi to discuss the influence and faith of 17th-century polymath, Blaise Pascal, based on Tomlin's most recent book, "Blaise Pascal: The Man Who Made the Modern World." The two discuss his similarities and differences with Martin Luther, his views of 17th-century French society (and how this culture offers many lessons for our modern world), and his contributions to Christian apologetics. Graham is the editor-in-Chief of Seen & Unseen, and a former Bishop of Kensington. He is a regular contributor to national publications and has written many books and articles, both academic and more popular. He founded the Centre for Cultural Witness, home to Seen & Unseen, in 2023. He taught theology within Oxford University for many years before founding St. Mellitus College.Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Graham: Order Blaise Pascal:The Man Who Made the Modern WorldSeen & UnseenGraham's Substack
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Evidence for the Resurrection with Adam Francisco 31.03.2026 1sa 8dkWhat does it mean for Paul to claim that if Christ has not been raised, our preaching and faith is in vain as he states in 1 Corinthians 15? Adam Francisco joins Kelsi to talk about the importance of centering Christian apologetics on the resurrection of Christ as a historically reliable event. The two also discuss helpful responses to many of the common objections to the resurrection and how the apologetic task has shifted in a post-Christian and post-enlightenment age. Adam Francisco is Director of Academics and Scholar in Residence at 1517. He earned his DPhil from the University of Oxford in 2006 and served as Professor of History, Dean, and Assistant Provost in the Concordia University System for nearly two decades.Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationWhat’s New from 1517:Being Family by Dr. Scott KeithA Reasoned Defense of the Faith by Adam FranciscoMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Adam: The Resurrection Fact: Responding to Modern Critics Defense of the Faith: Collected Essays in Christian ApologeticsAdam's Recent Talk at the Faith and Reason ConferenceAdam's 1517 Academy Course on Faith and Reason
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Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World 17.03.2026 1sa 2dkKelsi chats with author, Laurie Krieg, about her newest book (coauthored with her husband Matt), Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World, to answer how we keep the gospel as our foundation as we teach and guide our children through increasingly complex sexual issues today. Laurie Krieg is the director of parent programs and discipleship for The Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender. Laurie and her husband, Matt, are cohosts of the Hole in My Heart podcast, coauthors of An Impossible Marriage, and live in West Michigan with their three kids.Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationWhat’s New from 1517:Being Family by Dr. Scott KeithA Reasoned Defense of the Faith by Adam FranciscoMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Laurie: Raising Wise KidsLaurie's WebsiteLaurie's Instagram
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Understanding Revivalism with Dan van Voorhis 03.03.2026 50dkWhat does revival really mean for the modern church? This week, historian, 1517 Scholar in Residence, and Christian History Almanac host, Dan Van Voorhis, joins Kelsi to explore the nuances of revivalism throughout American Christianity and to discuss whether or not the church is currently undergoing a revival. Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationWhat’s New from 1517:1517 Youtube: How God Still Speaks TodayBeing Family by Dr. Scott KeithA Reasoned Defense of the Faith by Adam FranciscoMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Dan: Listen to the Christian History AlmanacDan's FREE 1517 Course on the History of Christianity in America
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The Season of Lent (and the Entire Christian Life) with Christopher Richmann 17.02.2026 1sa 6dkChristopher Richmann teaches religion and is assistant director for teaching and learning with the Academy for Teaching and Learning at Baylor University. An ordained ELCA pastor, Christopher serves St. John Lutheran Church in Gatesville, TX. He joins Kelsi to discuss his new book with 1517 Publishing, Stretched: A Study Guide for Lent and the Entire Christian Life.Lent often conjures images of self-denial and fasting, leaving many Christians confused about its true significance. Kelsi and Christopher delve into the historical and biblical roots of Lent, shedding light on its importance for the everyday Christian. Show Notes: 1517’s Faith and Reason ConferenceSupport 15171517 PodcastsThe 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 on YouTubeKelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's SubstackSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Christopher: Order StretchedRead Christopher’s Articles at 1517
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The True Myth of the Gospel with Louis Markos 03.02.2026 1sa 10dkKelsi talks with English professor and Christian apologist, Louis Markos, about the importance of myth, storytelling, and imagination within Christian apologetics. Using C.S Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien as guides, Dr. Markos argues Christianity is the truest myths and therefore Christ is the fulfillment of the pagan hope for a savior as seen in the great myths throughout time. The two also discuss the shift in apologetics in late modernity and Dr. Markos forthcoming book, My Apologetics Dinner Party. Show Notes: 1517’s Faith and Reason ConferenceSupport 15171517 PodcastsThe 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 on YouTube:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's NewsletterSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutube More from Lou: Preorder My Apologetics Dinner PartyAbout Louis Markos
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Understanding the American Religious Landscape with Ryan Burge 13.01.2026 1sa 7dkKelsi is joined by data analyst, Ryan Burge, to discuss the current American Religious Landscape as well as his newest book, The Vanishing Church: How the Hollowing Out of Moderate Congregations Is Hurting Democracy, Faith, and Us.Dr. Ryan Burge is an associate professor of political science at Eastern Illinois University. He is the author or co-author of four books including The Nones, 20 Myths about Religion and Politics in America, and The Great Dechurching. He has written for the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and POLITICO. He has also appeared on 60 Minutes, where Anderson Cooper called him, "one of the leading data analysts of religion and politics in the United States." He has been a pastor of an American Baptist Church for over seventeen years.Show Notes: Support 15171517 PodcastsThe 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 on YouTubeKelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's NewsletterSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Ryan: The Vanishing ChurchRyan's Substack, Graphs About ReligionFollow Ryan on X
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Grace and Absolution in Wake Up Dead Man with David Zahl 19.12.2025 31dkKelsi chats with David Zahl about themes of faith and grace in Rian Johnson's newest film, Knives Out: Wake Up Dead Man.David Zahl is founder and director of Mockingbird Ministries, which receives more than 1 million website page views per year and 35,000 newsletter subscribers and social media followers. He is editor in chief of the Mockingbird blog and cohost of the Mockingcast podcast.Show Notes: Support 15171517 PodcastsThe 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 on YouTubeRead Dave's articleFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on SubstackSubscribe to Outside Ourselves
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Jim Nestingen's Legacy with John Pless 16.12.2025 1sa 6dkKelsi talks with Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry and Missions, John Pless, about compiling and editing, The Essential Nestingen: Essays on Preaching, Catechism, and the Reformation. These essays were written by Dr. Pless' good friend, James Arne Nestingen (1945-2022). Jim was a beloved pastor, seminary professor, and most of all a confessor and preacher of the Gospel of Jesus. John talks about his friendship with Jim, Jim's legacy and the importance of collaboration within Lutheran theology. Rev. John T. Pless is assistant professor of pastoral ministry and missions at Concordia Theological Seminary in Fort Wayne, Indiana. He also serves as the director of field education for the seminary. Previously, Rev. Pless spent seventeen years as a campus pastor at University Lutheran Chapel at the University of Minnesota. He is the book review editor for Logia: A Journal of Lutheran Theology and a member of the editorial council of Lutheran Quarterly. In addition, Rev. Pless is copresident of the International Loehe Society, a regular lecturer at various conferences, and a member of the LCMS Committee on the Sanctity of Human Life. Rev. Pless received his BA from Texas Lutheran College and his MDiv from Trinity Lutheran Seminary, Columbus, Ohio.Show Notes: Support 15171517 PodcastsThe 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 on YouTubeKelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's NewsletterSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeMore from Dr. Pless: The Essential NestingenPastor CraftLuther's Large Catechism with Annotations and Contemporary Applications
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Advent in Isaiah with Matt Popovits 02.12.2025 49dkKelsi chats with Pastor Matt Popovits about this year's 1517 Advent Resources, Coming Home for Christmas: Advent in Isaiah. For the past three years, Matt has written the sermons for this series which is available for free for pastors and lay people alike to download and use. The series also includes a personal devotional. The two discuss the multiple layers to this year's theme: the importance of the season of Advent, the promises of Christ found throughout the book of Isaiah, and the specific promise that Christ comes to us in the manger to bring us home and to be our home forever. Matt Popovits serves as Lead Pastor of St. Mark Houston, in Houston, Texas. Prior to serving in Houston, Matt was the planting and Lead Pastor of OSNY, a family of neighborhood parishes in New York City. Matt has also served as a staff writer for Homiletics and is a frequent speaker at churches and events around the country.Show Notes: Support 15171517 PodcastsThe 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 on YouTubeMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's NewsletterSubscribe to the Show:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYoutubeComing Home for Christmas: Advent in IsaiahOrder a copy of the Personal DevotionalMore from Matt:Follow Matt on InstagramJunk Drawer Jesus
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The Quiet Ambition with Ryan Tinetti 19.11.2025 56dkKelsi chats with professor, pastor, and author Ryan Tinetti about his new book, The Quiet Ambition: Scripture's Surprising Antidote to Our Restless Lives. Based on 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12, The Quiet Ambition argues the life of the Christian often has much less to do with changing the world than it does faithfully trusting our work matters because we matter to God. Ryan P. Tinetti is a pastor who now serves as a professor of practical theology at Concordia Seminary (Saint Louis). He is the author of Preaching by Heart and writes the regular column "The Preacher's Toolbox" on 1517.org. Prior to his call to Concordia Seminary, Ryan served for fourteen years in parish ministry. Ryan lives with his wife, Anne, and their four children in St. Louis on the campus of the seminary.Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on YouTube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationWhat’s New from 1517:Untamed Prayers: 365 Daily Devotions on Christ in the Book of Psalms by Chad BirdComing Home for Christmas: 1517 Advent DevotionalMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's NewsletterMore from Ryan:Order The Quiet AmbitionRead Ryan's Substack
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Kids and Parenting in the Digital Age with Erica Sorensen 04.11.2025 59dkKelsi talks with Erica Sorensen about her experience in youth ministry and the affects of our current digital age on parenting and kids. The two discuss the impact of therapy culture, online culture, and trauma for Gen Z and Gen Alpha. Ultimately, Erica reminds listeners that Jesus is the answer for both them and their children and that we can trust him because his promises never fail. Erica Sorensen is in charge of Individual Partnerships in the Development Department at 1517. She holds a B.A. in both International Economics and Spanish from Valparaiso University and a M.A. in Teaching from the University of St. Thomas. Erica has a diverse work background in non-profit business operations, K-12 education, and fundraising. She is a passionate Gen Z advocate and speaker to church leadership and youth alike, teaching about the unique joys and challenges of sharing the gospel message with young people in a post-Christian world.Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts1517 Events Schedule1517 Academy - Free Theological EducationWhat’s New from 1517:Untamed Prayers: 365 Daily Devotions on Christ in the Book of Psalms by Chad BirdComing Home for Christmas: 1517 Advent DevotionalMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's Newsletter
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Free Will is a Fiction: An Introduction to the Bondage of the Will with John Hoyum 21.10.2025 1sa 16dkKelsi is joined by Pastor and 1517 contributor, John Hoyum, to discuss Martin Luther's Bondage of the Will. In this conversation, the two go over some of Luther's main arguments against the idea that humans have the free ability to choose God in salvation and talk about how Luther approached Scripture in order to rebut the humanist, Desiderius Erasmus', argument for the free will. Show Notes:Support 1517 Podcast Network1517 Podcasts1517 on Youtube1517 Podcast Network on Apple PodcastsIntroduction to the Bondage of the Will Article SeriesOrder the Bondage of the WillWhat’s New from 1517:Untamed Prayers: 365 Daily Devotions on Christ in the Book of Psalms by Chad BirdRemembering Your Baptism: A 40-Day Devotional by Kathryn MoralesSinner Saint by Luke KjolhaugThe Impossible Prize: A Theology of Addiction by Donavan RileyMore from Kelsi:Kelsi KlembaraFollow Kelsi on InstagramFollow Kelsi on TwitterKelsi's NewsletterMore from John: John HoyumPreaching the Text Podcast Follow John on X
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