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  How To Stand Out as a Writer in the Age of AI (2026) | David Perell | 138 23.07.2026 1h 36min

  My conversation with David Perell, host of the "How I Write" podcast and a truly prolific creator, took my understanding to a whole new level. He's one of the few people who has consistently challenged my thinking on how we communicate ideas effectively. In this episode, I dove deep with David into critical questions like: Does writing still hold its weight in today's crowded digital landscape? What specific elements should creators prioritize to make their words resonate? And importantly, how do you stand out when everyone else is shouting? David shares his incredible insights into the craft of writing, the power of observation, and his unique philosophy on identifying and leveraging "currents" to amplify your message. This was easily one of my favorite conversations on the show.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:15 Obsessed with the Craft of Writing02:45 The "Bit" as a Writing Concept05:10 Why People Struggle with Writing07:11 From Seeking Attention to Having Something to Say10:40 The Discipline of Public Writing13:58 Capturing and Curating Ideas20:05 Riding Internet Currents26:50 Identifying and Leveraging Currents32:10 Tying Timeless Ideas to Timely Moments39:15 Uncorrelated Sources of Inspiration45:36 The "How I Write" Podcast47:20 Production Value and Set Design1:00:40 YouTube Growth and Packaging1:04:40 The Guest Maximization Strategy1:10:00 Creating "The Modern World" Series1:16:00 The Modern Pollution of Man-Made Environment1:19:30 Interplay of the Creator Economy and the Modern World1:22:15 Creating the World You Want to Live In1:29:26 Using Art and History to Hone Taste1:34:00 The Soul-Stirring Work1:35:40 Where to Find DavidIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow David:X: https://twitter.com/david_perellWebsite: https://www.perell.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannelLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidperellFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comModern World (YouTube Channel): https://www.youtube.com/@TheModernWorldBuilding a Second Brain: https://www.buildingasecondbrain.comThe Artist's Way: https://juliacameronlive.com/books/the-artists-wayHighlights:01:15 – The obsession with writing as a craft.20:05 – Understanding and leveraging internet "currents" for content.40:30 – Why consuming uncorrelated content elevates your work.59:20 – The art of deep communication in interviewing.1:29:26 – Cultivating taste by actively discerning what you love and hate.
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  I Asked a Speaking Coach to Roast My Biggest Speech | Mike Pacchione | 137 16.07.2026 1h 15min

  I recently sat down with my speaking coach, Mike Pacchione, for this totally unprecedented episode where we dissect, minute by minute, my full keynote speech from this year's Craft + Commerce conference. We’re not holding anything back. Mike points out my flaws, celebrates my strengths, and reveals all the chaos that happens backstage that the audience never sees. If you've ever delivered a product launch, feared public speaking, or just want to understand the art of a compelling presentation, you'll learn so much from our candid conversation.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:03 Breaking Down the Keynote02:22 The Chaos Before the Stage04:02 The Missing Walk-Out Music07:44 The "Be a Zero" Concept09:47 Avoiding Speaker Voice13:17 Building Tension and Specificity19:19 The Stephen Colbert Joke20:52 The Dad's Wisdom Story28:16 The Challenge of Technical Terms34:03 Debating Product Announcement Timing40:35 The Elusive Applause Moment48:29 Katie's Spotlighting an Audience Member53:05 The Landing Page Humiliation Slide01:01:00 The New York City Event Space Announcement01:07:07 The Closing and Audience Reaction01:12:00 Rehearsal Techniques and Speaker NotesIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Mike:Freebie: https://bestspeech.co/nathanWebsite: https://bestspeech.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mpacchioneInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mpaccX: https://x.com/mpaccFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comJohn Koenig - The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnkoenigThe State Change Method - Wes Kao: https://weskao.comThe Happiness Project - Gretchen Rubin: https://gretchenrubin.com/books/the-happiness-projectTim Urban TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/tim_urban_inside_the_mind_of_a_master_procrastinatorFramer: https://www.framer.comHighlights:01:03 – Mike critiques my keynote opening11:50 – The secret behind my opening pause25:06 – How real-world stories prove product value31:09 – The unexpected success of a borrowed joke53:10 – The power of a critical feedback slide 
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  #1 Speaking Coach Explains How to Master Speaking (In Just 58 Minutes) | Mike Pacchione | 136 09.07.2026 58min

  I've always brought Mike Pacchione in to coach every speaker at my Craft + Commerce conferences, including myself, because he has an uncanny ability to help people transform their talks from good to truly great. Mike's number one goal? For the audience to forget it's even a speech. In our conversation, Mike unpacks his framework for crafting compelling stories, why you should almost never tell them in chronological order, and his genius TED acronym for tension, editing for emotional impact, and the right details. He also shares invaluable insights on designing an ending that resonates and even how to strategically use humor (especially if you're not naturally funny). This episode is packed with lessons I've learned firsthand from Mike over the years.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:00 Making the audience forget it's a speech04:06 Setting the room up for success06:14 The power of stories in speeches08:39 Story selection and placement10:42 Why you don't need to tell stories in order11:11 Mike's TED acronym for storytelling: Tension14:55 Editing for emotional impact20:02 Crafting an engaging middle of a speech22:57 Asking questions to build tension24:37 Describing people in vivid detail (loglines)30:48 Crafting a powerful ending33:09 The "one more thing" strategy40:07 Controlling the emotional arc of a talk40:50 Using humor effectively44:09 The power of awkward silence and tension45:53 Cueing the audience for laughs and applause48:14 Leading the audience with your emotions50:57 Mike's take on using AI for speeches55:24 How to work with Mike Pacchione56:47 Mike's free resourceIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Mike:Freebie: https://bestspeech.co/nathanWebsite: https://bestspeech.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mpacchioneInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mpaccX: https://x.com/mpaccFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comDuarte: https://www.duarte.comAtomic Habits: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habitsWP Engine: https://wpengine.comConvertKit: https://convertkit.comHighlights:02:01 – Getting the audience to forget it's a speech15:30 – Ending your story in the middle for maximum impact26:06 – Sarah: The person who eats quinoa for a cheat meal37:05 – Why you should never end your talk on Q&A53:02 – The point of a speech is to make an emotional connection
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  From Zero to $1M Before 30 - My Exact System | Mallory Rowan | 135 02.07.2026 1h 4min

  How do you build significant wealth in a way that feels sustainable and joyful, rather than sacrificing your mental and physical health? That's what I explored in my conversation with Mallory Rowan, who achieved a million-dollar net worth by age 29, but not without first hitting a wall of burnout at 22. Her story isn't just about financial metrics; it's a testament to redefining success and building a life where financial freedom supports personal well-being. I was particularly struck by her "Six Solutions Theory" and how she challenges the conventional wisdom about ambition versus balance. Join me as Mallory shares her unique approach to turning profit into compounding assets and creating a business that serves her life, not the other way around.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:06 Burnout at 22: Ignoring the whispers03:59 The toxic cycle of business, health, and happiness07:22 When you realize the limit keeps moving10:14 The collision of creativity and finances13:17 Rebuilding after burnout18:03 The difference between revenue and profit21:02 Making investing goals exciting27:26 Getting specific about building wealth30:45 The cottage purchase and creative financing32:02 Active income and first down payment34:03 The million dollars invested goal41:17 Why net worth goals matter more52:27 Having it all: Ambition and avoiding burnout55:28 Why behind the goal: The Toddler Test57:38 The categories: non-negotiables, nice-to-haves, experiments01:00:04 How a nest egg enables lighter living and creativityIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Mallory:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/malloryrowanYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theinbetweenerscoTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@malloryrowanLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malloryrowan?originalSubdomain=caWebsite: https://malloryrowan.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comHighlights:01:06 – Ignoring the whispers before burnout screams15:00 – Strategically building "boredom" into your business model25:21 – The "Thumbnailing" approach to problem-solving41:17 – Why net worth goals offer true financial freedom01:00:04 – How a solid nest egg allows for lighter, more playful business decisions
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  How I Went From $0 To 6 figures on Instagram (67-Minute Masterclass) | Gannon Meyer | 134 25.06.2026 1h 5min

  How do actually make meaningful money on Instagram? That's what I wanted to find out when I sat down with Gannon Meyer. He's figured out how to turn social media attention into actual revenue. My guest today, Gannon, went from living with his girlfriend's mom to building a thriving business in just 12 months, and he credits a huge part of that transformation to what he shares in our conversation. We dive deep into his "free, segment, upsell" framework for converting Instagram followers into paying customers, and I even get a direct critique of my own content strategy. If you're looking to monetize your audience on Instagram, you won't want to miss Gannon's insights.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:14 Converting Instagram attention into revenue03:33 Client examples and creator income levels06:47 The "Free, Segment, Upsell" funnel framework08:39 Using open-ended questions for better segmentation10:50 How ManyChat and AI interpret responses13:12 Real-world example: Adrian's camera business15:52 Good vs. bad open-ended questions18:18 Crafting a CTA for your free content22:00 Storytelling frameworks for strong retention30:07 Maximizing engagement with Instagram Stories33:22 The impact of CTAs on Instagram reach35:01 Why comments are crucial for discoverability44:19 The truth about views vs. revenue47:55 Deep diving into solving problems for revenue51:08 How Gannon's 'whiteboard' videos attract clients53:22 Gannon's life transformation in 12 months58:50 The realization: being willing to be wrong in public1:04:15 The power of putting yourself out thereIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Gannon:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gannon.meyerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@gannonmeyerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gannonmeyerFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comHighlights:01:30 Gannon's approach to helping people sell their products16:17 How to ask open-ended questions effectively30:57 The PSA story framework for Instagram46:12 Why high views don't always equal high revenue59:57 The power of being willing to be wrong in public
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  Million Dollar Founder Explains How To Avoid Burnout In 2026 | Steve Kamb | 133 18.06.2026 1h 5min

  Why did this founder fire himself from his own company? That's what I wanted to find out when I sat down with Steve Kamb, founder of Nerd Fitness. We've known each other for a long time, and I've watched him build an incredible audience and business. But then, to my surprise, he "fired" himself – twice! Steve shares the surprising truth about chasing growth, the pitfalls of wearing the wrong hat in your own business, and how he rediscovered his passion for writing. His journey is a powerful reminder that sometimes, the true path to fulfillment means stepping away from the very thing you've so diligently built.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:10 Firing myself (twice!) from Nerd Fitness05:37 The five years I spent in the wrong seat07:20 The "If you're not growing, you're shrinking" myth10:37 How I realized writing is what lights me up12:55 When to double down on strengths vs. fix weaknesses18:19 The curated "all I do is win" internet vs. real life20:20 Sharing my failures: cancer, Google changing, divorce23:09 The overwhelming positive response to vulnerability24:06 How my book was born and evolved30:17 My visit to the Museum of Failure33:55 My PACT framework: Pause, Accept, Change, Try40:22 Everything old is new again in content49:00 The value of Craft + Commerce and community56:14 Longevity in creative work: falling in love with the craft1:02:43 How to Try Again: Where to find the bookIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Steve:How To Try Again (Book): https://howtotryagain.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevekambLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevekambYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/stevekambX: https://x.com/SteveKambNerd Fitness: https://www.nerdfitness.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comHow to Try Again: https://howtotryagain.comNerd Fitness: https://www.nerdfitness.comThe Museum of Failure: https://failuremuseum.com
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  Business Expert: The Secret Power of IP To Grow Your Business | Mo Bunnell | 132 11.06.2026 1h

  Codifying your knowledge into intellectual property (IP) is a crucial step for scaling any business, but what my guest Mo Bunnell shared in this episode completely changed my perspective on how to do it and the incredible impact it can have. Mo, author of Give to Grow and founder of the Bundle Idea Group, has built an astonishing career training professionals at some of the world's most prestigious organizations. He walked me through the evolution of his IP, from humble beginnings to the sophisticated materials he uses today to secure multi-six-figure contracts. This isn't something he typically breaks down publicly, and I was genuinely surprised by the tangible examples and actionable steps he provided for transforming a service-based business into an IP-driven powerhouse.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:29 Codifying your system in a weekend05:07 From intuition to framework: creating IP08:00 The evolution of training materials11:20 Essential elements of effective IP18:30 The economics of B2B and corporate clients21:00 How to get your first pilot clients26:00 Overcoming B2B objections29:00 Translating B2C IP to B2B corporate world31:00 Identifying high-leverage industries and roles34:00 Lowering the bar on perfection for B2B37:00 Lead magnets for decision-makers vs. users41:40 Advanced lead magnet strategies45:20 The power of public workshops49:40 Scaling beyond yourself: travel and certification52:45 Michael Hyatt's Business Accelerator growth56:00 The annuity effect of corporate trainingIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Mo:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mobunnellBunnell Idea Group: https://bunnellideagroup.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd0dvX8kfxF_MMz6IZT17kwGive to Grow: https://bunnellideagroup.com/givetogrowFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comThe Snowball System: How to Win More Business and Turn Customers into Raving Fans: https://www.amazon.com/Snowball-System-Business-Customers-Raving/dp/1640950343Unreasonable Hospitality: https://www.amazon.com/Unreasonable-Hospitality-Remarkable-Giving-People/dp/0593418193Highlights:01:04 – How Mo started codifying his IP04:08 – The power of IP to scale a business11:22 – Four components of world-class IP18:49 – The "this changes everything" B2B opportunity37:04 – Lead magnets for buyers versus users43:09 – James Clear's strategic review request56:00 – The annuity model of B2B corporate training
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  Russell Brunson: How To Build a Mass Movement | 131 04.06.2026 1h 1min

  I’ve always been fascinated by how some companies manage to create not just customers, but passionate communities who become true advocates. My guest today, Russell Brunson, has mastered this, building ClickFunnels to a staggering 100,000+ users *without any outside funding*. In our conversation, Russell broke down the exact framework he used to achieve this, a framework born from studying thousands of successful movements across history, politics, and even religion. If you've ever wondered how to inspire loyalty that goes beyond a simple transaction and transforms your audience into a committed tribe, this episode reveals the secrets to building a movement, not just a business.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:16 Studying Successful Movements03:30 From Educator to Movement Leader04:58 The Three Core Elements of a Movement06:25 The Attractive Character (The Guide)07:05 The New Opportunity (Not Just an Improvement)09:24 The Future-Based Cause12:12 Universal Principles in Movements13:17 The Power of Positioning18:47 Crafting the New Opportunity27:12 The Importance of Customer Alignment28:16 Cutting Through the Noise with Your Message33:23 The Power of Customer Stories35:12 Why General Messaging Can Be More Powerful46:17 Milestones and Awards for Motivation50:50 Creating Belief and Encouraging Progress52:33 Scaling with Progressive Achievement59:55 Where to Learn More from Russell BrunsonIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Russell:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/russellbrunsonYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2qUDKqTsz00csykCYgdLuALinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russellbrunsonFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/russbrunsonX: https://x.com/russellbrunsonWebsite: https://russellbrunson.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comExpert Secrets: https://expertsecrets.comClickFunnels: https://www.clickfunnels.comHighlights:06:09 – Every Movement Needs a Guide11:00 – The Power of a Future-Based Cause24:50 – The Importance of Actively Choosing Your Dream Customer47:50 – The Two Comma Club: Gamifying Entrepreneurial Success57:20 – Why People Care More About a Plaque Than Money
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  How To Actually Break Free From Your Limiting Beliefs (Nir Eyal) | 130 28.05.2026 49min

  Can you truly break through your own limitations and achieve what seems impossible? Today, I sit down with my friend Nir Eyal, the author of three bestselling books, including his latest, *Beyond Belief*, which just hit the New York Times bestseller list. Nir recently blew my mind when he told me he doesn't "believe in jet lag" after flying from Europe to Asia, and that was just the appetizer for our conversation. In his typical science-backed style, Nir reveals the surprising research behind why some people persist where others quit, and how our beliefs—not always our circumstances—are often the key to unlocking our full potential. He shares practical, data-driven strategies I'm already applying in my own life and creative work, and I think you will too.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:26 Belief and Placebos05:25 Why Placebo Effect is Getting Stronger06:59 When Pain is Not Suffering10:10 Hypnosedation and Unlocking Potential15:35 Applying Beliefs to Creative Process19:10 Chasing Happiness vs. Decreasing Suffering21:47 Why Positive Thinking Can Be Harmful26:34 Applying Belief-Shifting to Relationships31:03 Changing Your Mind and Beliefs35:35 Belief Problems, Not People Problems37:25 High Expectations, Low Control Leads to Burnout40:03 Internal vs. External Locus of Control44:27 The Rat Experiment and Persistence47:47 What's Next for Nir EyalIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Nir:Website: https://www.nirandfar.comX: https://twitter.com/nireyalLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyalBeyond Belief: https://www.nirandfar.com/beyondbeliefFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comBeyond Belief: https://www.nirandfar.com/beyondbeliefHighlights:01:31 – How belief separates suffering from symptoms06:17 – Why I don't want to hear about side effects15:06 – How I stopped suffering in my creative process25:29 – Visualizing how to deal with discomfort30:39 – Who I become when I hold onto a belief38:40 – Formula for burnout: high expectations, low control44:45 – How a change in belief increased a rat's persistence
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  James Clear: How To Actually Make It As An Author In 2026 | 129 21.05.2026 1h 4min

  What actually makes a bestseller? My two guests this episode, James Clear, author of Atomic Habits, which has sold over 30 million copies worldwide and is the best-selling book of the last decade, knows a thing or two about it. I also sit down with Madeline McIntosh, CEO of Penguin Random House US, where she's overseen the publication of over 1000 books. Together, James and Madeline have co-founded Authors Equity, a publishing model that completely inverts how authors are typically paid and how books are brought to market. In our conversation, they break down everything you need to know about publishing today, what works, what's broken, and how they're revolutionizing the industry with a win-win approach for authors.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:21 Publishing transformations Madeline has witnessed02:59 Madeline's motivation for founding Author's Equity05:14 The Author's Equity model compared to traditional publishing09:20 Why the author's equity model is beneficial14:03 The power of aligned incentives18:22 Author pain points solved by Author's Equity21:00 Selecting custom teams for each book24:45 Author's Equity's willingness to learn from authors28:22 Self-published authors joining Author's Equity31:07 Who Author's Equity is not for34:00 The win-win philosophy of Author's Equity36:05 Crafting books that sell for years39:00 The importance of building an audience as a nonfiction author41:40 The timeless desire and new vessel for delivering information46:00 Getting your best work in front of readers50:08 What makes books keep selling in year two and beyond53:10 Leveraging seasonal buying and promotional efforts55:22 The New York Times Bestseller list: commercial vs. psychological1:00:30 The most accurate bestseller list1:02:10 Reaching out to Author's EquityIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.com/?utm_campaign=29661554-nathan_barry_show&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=podcast&utm_term=nathanbarryshow&utm_content=youtube_descriptionFollow James:Website: https://jamesclear.comX: https://twitter.com/JamesClearInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamesclearLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesclearFollow Madeline:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madelinemcintoshInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/madmciFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comAuthors Equity: https://authorsequity.com/Atomic Habits: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habitsHighlights:01:21 – Publishing before the internet and email09:20 – Authors no longer have to choose21:00 – Hand-selecting custom teams for each book31:07 – Avoiding books with a short shelf life47:03 – Value in the push and pull of ideas50:28 – The book has to sell itself1:00:30 – The most accurate bestseller list
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  How to Build a Million Dollar Creator Business (Masterclass) | Grant Baldwin & Bryan Harris | 128 14.05.2026 1h 42min

  How do you break through that elusive $1 million revenue ceiling in a creator business? That's the question I dove into with two incredible founders on this episode: Grant Baldwin of The Speaker Lab and Bryan Harris of Growth Tools. Both have scaled their businesses far beyond that mark, not with flashy tactics, but by building fundamentally great businesses. We chat about the counter-intuitive strategies that got them there, why simplifying your offer is often the fastest path to growth, and how tracking actual customer outcomes is a superpower that most businesses ignore. It's a candid conversation about the foundational shifts that unlock real, sustainable growth.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:27 Building a business without being the "dancing monkey"06:40 The million-dollar ceiling for creators12:01 Bryan's first million: simplifying to one core product16:21 Overvaluing sales and marketing vs. a great offer22:04 The "steakhouse vs. buffet" analogy for niche26:58 The shift in the creator economy with AI31:47 The future of SaaS and the role of relationships37:13 Bryan's shocking AI experience saving thousands42:33 Navigating the opportunities and concerns of AI48:08 The problem with tracking success rate53:29 Less information, shorter path, higher success rate coaching01:00:07 The importance of product and rallying a team01:06:52 The near-death experience of a refund-based guarantee01:13:51 Bryan's mistake: stopping getting your hands dirty too soon01:21:40 Grant's decision to wind down his businessIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Bryan:Website: https://growthtools.com/nathanLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harrisbryannashFollow Grant:Website: https://grantbaldwin.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/gbaldwinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grant-baldwinFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comRework: https://basecamp.com/books/reworkStop Guessing: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59388878-stop-guessingWealth, Riches, and Money: https://www.amazon.com/Wealth-Riches-Money-Kingdom-Principles/dp/0984183864Highlights:06:10 What's the outcome if I stay on this path?12:01 SImplifying to one core product made everything easier.15:47 A great offer makes sales and marketing easier.31:12 When AI solutions are fundamentally 10x better.39:09 People's number one competitor is quitting.01:01:09 Track your outcomes to be in the top 0.01%.01:13:51 You need to keep your hands dirty as a founder.
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  Unreasonable Hospitality: The Secret to an Audience That Never Leaves | Will Guidara & Brian Canlis | 127 07.05.2026 1h 21min

  What's the secrets to unreasonable hospitality? That's what I wanted to find out when I sat down with Will Guidara and Brian Canlis. Will spent over a decade running Eleven Madison Park, the restaurant voted number one in the world, and Brian is the force behind Canlis in Seattle, one of the most respected fine dining institutions in the country. Their insights on hospitality extend far beyond the restaurant world, and I was particularly struck by how they've systematically approached building meaningful connections, both online and off. Their approach to "unreasonable hospitality" has completely reshaped how I think about every customer touchpoint in my own business, and there are so many actionable ideas here for any creator or entrepreneur.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:07 How Will and Brian started working together03:07 The first big project they worked on04:47 Brian's "friend internship" and meeting his wife05:56 Brian's career running Canlis08:26 The vision for their current business14:16 Shifting from consulting to creative studio16:18 The broad applicability of hospitality30:53 Chewy's pattern recognition and customer experience35:16 "What would have to be true?" for seemingly impossible goals45:40 Mapping every tiny guest interaction54:19 The value of "fresh eyes" and notebook feedback1:07:47 Why doing the "right thing" matters long-term1:09:15 The 95/5 rule for managing resources1:11:49 Opportunities to elevate the Kit platform experience1:15:16 Making powerful tools accessible and fun1:18:18 Celebrating user milestones and personalized momentsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Will:Website: https://unreasonablehospitality.comThe Field Guide: https://uhthefieldguide.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/wguidaraLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willguidaraFollow Brian:Website: https://unreasonablehospitality.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/bcanlisLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-canlis-2820122a6Featured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comUnreasonable Hospitality: https://unreasonablehospitality.comUnreasonable Hospitality Field Guide: https://uhthefieldguide.com
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  Inside a 1M+ Subscriber Newsletter (My Exact Strategy) | Sean Devlin | 126 30.04.2026 57min

  He's running a newsletter with over a million subscribers and an engagement rate that turns traditional wisdom on its head. Sean Devlin, a veteran in the newsletter space, pulled back the curtain to reveal the strategies behind his success. Having scaled "Nice News" to over 800,000 subscribers before its acquisition by Encyclopedia Britannica, and currently running "All Healthy" with an astounding 1.3 million subscribers and a 52% open rate, Sean is doing something different. He shares his unconventional approach to content, monetization, and growth that prioritizes reader value and long-term relationships over short-term metrics. If you're building an audience and want them to genuinely look forward to your emails, this episode is packed with actionable insights you won't want to miss.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:01 The power of habit-forming newsletter sections02:47 Why creators get email formats wrong04:09 The long-term perspective on engagement metrics06:40 Balancing clickbait with true value07:19 Achieving high open rates with a massive list09:46 Monetization through seamless sponsorships18:01 The art of increasing sponsorship rates20:56 Taking responsibility for advertiser performance22:14 Newsletter design and structure essentials27:10 Leveraging lead magnets and quizzes for acquisition30:51 Optimizing for subscriber payback period38:38 The content creation flywheel45:30 The overlooked importance of newsletter design47:27 Crafting an engaging newsletter opening51:11 Fixing underperforming emailsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Sean:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seancdevlinAll Healthy: https://www.allhealthy.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comFeedly: https://feedly.comAirtable: https://www.airtable.comMidjourney: https://www.midjourney.comSpark Loop: https://www.sparkloop.appHighlights:01:01 – Designing sections for reader habit formation07:19 – Maintaining 50%+ open rates with 1.3M subscribers09:46 – Integrating sponsorships seamlessly within content15:01 – Iterating on flexible pricing for sponsors22:14 – Importance of visual design in newsletter trust30:51 – Reducing subscriber payback period strategies45:30 – Why newsletter design is a critical hot take
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  I Met 16 Of The World’s Smartest Authors (Their Best Advice) | Nathan Barry | 125 23.04.2026 1h 15min

  What does it take to truly master book marketing and author growth in today’s crowded landscape? Nathan Barry and James Clear co-hosted an exclusive mastermind bringing together 16 of the world's top non-fiction authors in Nashville. This episode pulls back the curtain on the cutting-edge strategies discussed: from leveraging Instagram trial reels for new audiences, to the surprising power of paid "tiny offers" over free lead magnets, and even the meticulous, 80-hour prep work behind viral podcast appearances. Discover how these literary titans are staying ahead, the unscalable tactics that drive massive success, and the mindset required to play at the highest levels of the author game.Timestamps:00:00 Intro: Book Marketing Secrets from Top Authors04:50 Unscalable Tactics for Book Launches08:26 The Power of "Tiny Offers" Over Lead Magnets11:58 Instagram Story Strategy: The Power of Three15:47 Leveraging Old Content for Viral Success19:07 Micro Podcast Tours for Book Promotion23:10 The Audiobook Debate: Does Listening Count as Reading?28:40 The 80-Hour Podcast Prep Phenomenon34:04 Authenticity vs. Meticulous Preparation in Content38:30 AI Checkpoints for Authentic Content Creation41:00 Scaling Speaking Fees Strategically45:30 Madeline Macintosh: CEO of Authors Equity49:00 Email Marketing and the Kit Flywheel for Book Sales52:45 Leveraging Local Indie Bookstores for Sales56:10 The Grind Behind Every Bestseller1:01:00 Building Your Own Mastermind Community1:06:50 The Power of Creating Your Own RoomIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Haley:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/haleyjaniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haley-janicekFollow Chelsea:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelseahahnInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/chelseainboiseFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comUnreasonable Hospitality: https://www.unreasonablehospitality.comAtomic Habits: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habitsThe Five Types of Wealth: https://sahilbloom.com/5-types-of-wealthDiary of a CEO: https://www.stevenbartlett.com/podcastAuthors Equity: https://www.authorsequity.comSouthall Farm: https://www.southalltn.comA Gentleman in Moscow: https://www.amor-towler.com/a-gentleman-in-moscow
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  I built a $100K Newsletter Business (Here's How) | Marissa Lovell | 124 16.04.2026 51min

  Uncovering how 'From Boise' evolved from a passion project rooted in community to a thriving six-figure business, Nathan Barry sits down with Marissa Lovell. Marissa shares the unique content strategy and innovative monetization experiments that fueled its growth, highlighting how deep community connections propelled its success in the local media landscape.Discover how 'From Boise' sets itself apart by championing positive local stories and community engagement, demonstrating the powerful impact of authenticity and experimentation in building a successful creator business.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction: From Kit to From Boise04:15 The Origin Story: Why a Local Newsletter?09:40 Subscriber Milestones: 24,000+ Strong17:15 The From Boise Dinner Club: From Idea to Sold Out Success21:55 Craft & Commerce: A Note from Nathan23:20 Experimentation as a Core Philosophy27:00 Spotlighting Boise's Creative and Entrepreneurial Spirit32:50 The Business Arc: From Hobby to Six Figures38:25 Audience Questions: Content Curation46:30 The Art of Curation and Personal TouchIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Marissa:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/from.boiseWebsite: https://www.fromboise.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/withlovefromboisePodcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/6I7HKhg8nj5tiNJhssnYRqTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@from.boiseFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comFrom Boise: https://www.fromboise.comCraft & Commerce Conference: https://kit.com/conferenceRick Rubin - The Creative Act: A Way of Being: https://www.rickrubin.com/the-creative-actAnn Helen Peterson's Newsletter: https://annehelen.substack.comBoise Dev: https://boisedev.comTreefort Music Fest: https://www.treefortmusicfest.comIdaho Film Society: https://idahofilmsociety.orgSeth Godin: https://sethgodin.comHighlights:04:15 The Start of From Boise: An Experiment in Local Media14:10 Building Community: The Difference Between an Audience and a Crowd22:04 Diverse Monetization: From Sponsorships to Discount Cards28:00 News vs. Community Stories: A Unique Content Strategy32:50 The Business Side: Crossing Six Figures with a Local Newsletter
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  The Exact Systems Behind a $1m YouTube Channel | Tintin Smith | 123 09.04.2026 1h 15min

  Most creators focus on viral hits or massive subscriber counts, but Tintin Smith, former Head of YouTube for Ali Abdaal (where he helped grow the channel from 3 to 6 million subscribers and millions in revenue), reveals that true success lies in a meticulously crafted system designed to convert viewers into high-ticket clients. He breaks down the exact production system used by top educational YouTubers, outlining the critical roles, tasks, and surprisingly, what *not* to do, if you want to turn your audience into a sustainable six-figure business. From strategic positioning to the art of packaging your content, Tintin delivers a masterclass for any entrepreneur ready to leverage YouTube beyond ad revenue.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction03:30 Ali Abdaal's YouTube strategy09:50 YouTube production system overview16:15 Building your YouTube team26:00 Calls to action (CTAs) and lead magnets36:40 Editing: Why you shouldn't do it yourself44:10 Cost analysis of a YouTube team47:50 Five things the entrepreneur MUST do55:40 Five things the entrepreneur should NOT do1:02:50 The mindset of long-term YouTube success1:10:40 Highest leverage activities for YouTube growth1:14:00 Where to find Tintin SmithIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Tintin:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TintinSmithWebsite: https://100kyt.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tintin-smith-9b4720174Newsletter: https://tintinsmith.kit.com100K Roadmap: https://100kroadmap.coX: https://x.com/TintinSmithFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.com1 of 10: https://1of10.comFrame.io: https://frame.ioPsychometrics: https://psychometrics.comHighlights:03:30 Ali Abdaal's Strategy09:50 Production System16:15 Building Your Team26:00 CTAs & Lead Magnets55:40 What NOT to Do1:02:50 Long-Term Mindset
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  How To Actually Become A Successful Creator In 2026 | Chase Reeves | 121 02.04.2026 1h 38min

  How do you actually become a successful long-term creator? Chase Reeves, a multi-talented creator ranging from musician to designer to coach, joins Nathan Barry to explore the unexpected ingredients for long-term success. Chase unpacks his unique journey, from pirated Photoshop to crafting captivating content, revealing how developing "taste" isn't just about technical skills, but a deep, soulful curiosity. This episode takes a dive into the critical balance between external validation and internal drive, why "actual" people connect with authenticity, and how embracing a little chaos might just be the secret sauce for innovation and genuine impact. Get ready to rethink how you approach your craft and cultivate a career that truly resonates.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:18 Intentionality and the exploration of feeling05:37 How Chase developed taste and his approach to making things09:24 The internet rewards performance, not integration12:54 How to sustain long-term growth and avoid burnout16:53 Connecting with your audience and understanding their needs20:47 Being playful and holding things loosely24:00 How small groups and men's work create healing through witness27:31 The cure for addiction is intimacy31:05 The difference between feeling good and being good34:10 The role of curiosity in building taste37:25 How to make a living while pursuing creative passions41:40 The power of saying "no" to opportunities44:25 Why creators need to protect their mental health47:20 Finding your unique voice in a crowded world50:10 Building a sustainable creative practice01:10:02 Embracing discomfort as a path to innovation01:20:30 Final thoughts on being a successful long-term creatorIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Chase:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chasewreevesYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@chasereevesWebsite: https://chasereeves.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chasereevesFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comTroubadour: https://www.troubadourgoods.comRedwood Outdoor Sauna: https://www.redwoodoutdoors.com/Cold Plunge: https://thecoldplunge.com/Wandered: https://www.wandrd.com/Pact: https://pact.com/Studio Neat: https://www.studioneat.com/Highlights:01:51 – Musicians to content creators is an underused path06:26 – Your nervous system matters in business09:03 – Taste is higher than capabilities in the beginning12:00 – Make something that's an exact copy15:18 – Deep sense of insecurity fuels learning19:50 – The internet rewards performance, not integration27:31 – The cure for addiction is intimacy 
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  My Habits For (Almost) Limitless Energy | Simon Alexander Ong | 121 25.03.2026 1h 21min

  How do you live an energized life—not just physically, but mentally, emotionally, and spiritually? Simon Alexander Ong, author of the bestselling book "Energize," joins Nathan in a captivating conversation that unpacks the profound difference between simply managing time and mastering energy. Simon, whose journey from the high-stakes world of finance to a renowned speaker and coach, offers a unique perspective on consistency over intensity, the power of gratitude, and why detaching from outcomes is the secret to sustained creativity and joy. This episode is a must-listen for creators and leaders striving to avoid burnout, cultivate a positive mindset, and harness their inner force to achieve their biggest goals.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:14 From finance to fulfillment06:05 From comparison to inspiration12:00 Mission, purpose, and seeing life as a game16:16 Wisdom begins with knowing yourself22:36 Finding stillness and inner rest28:10 The emotional side of action34:00 The power of loosening up41:40 Shifting from control to connection46:00 The four dimensions of energy50:11 Seasonal approach to energy54:26 Inspiration from outside your industry58:30 Leveraging novelty for marketing1:04:19 Question storming for deeper insights1:08:26 Leading with proud energy1:12:30 Expressing gratitude verbally1:18:18 Energetic decision-makingIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Simon:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonalexanderongX: https://twitter.com/SimonAlexanderOInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/simonalexanderoYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@simonalexanderoWebsite: https://simonalexanderong.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comThe Aughts Hotel: https://aughts.coAdam Grant: https://www.adamgrant.comBasecamp: https://basecamp.comHighlights:06:05 From comparison to inspiration16:16 Wisdom begins with knowing yourself34:00 The power of loosening up46:00 The four dimensions of energy58:30 Leveraging novelty for marketing1:12:30 Expressing gratitude verbally
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  How I Helped Grow Diary of a CEO to 14M Subscribers | Grace Miller | 120 19.03.2026 1h 31min

  She helped grow a YouTube channel from 100,000 to 14 million subscribers in just four years, all while balancing a suite of other successful podcasts and media ventures? Grace Miller, Head of Failure and Experimentation at Flight Story, the powerhouse behind "The Diary of a CEO" and other massive shows, shares her unique insights. In this episode, Grace pulls back the curtain on the world of high-stakes content creation, revealing the ingenious experiments and surprising failures that have fueled their meteoric rise. If you're obsessed with crafting great content and eager to understand the nuanced mechanics of YouTube growth, this conversation offers an unparalleled look into how one of the industry's leading teams navigates the ever-evolving digital landscape.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:00 The Scale of Diary of a CEO & Flight Story04:40 When Doubling Content Backfired08:01 Why Multiple YouTube Channels?13:00 Measuring YouTube Experiments15:37 Underutilized YouTube Features21:55 The Power of YouTube Chapters26:06 Anatomy of a Successful Experiment29:20 The Localization & Dub Experiment35:45 Designing Effective Experiments37:33 Core Metrics for YouTube Growth40:08 Tactics for Returning Viewers47:20 The Culture of Failure and Learning51:40 YouTube vs. Podcast Content54:26 Embracing Failure Personally59:00 The Value of Action Over Inaction1:03:00 Fostering a Culture of Experimentation1:11:57 AI in Content Creation1:16:17 The Future of the Creator Economy1:20:24 Targeting the Right Audience, Not Just All Audiences1:25:21 Grace's Personal Experimentation Journey1:28:31 Lead vs. Lagging Indicators for GrowthIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Grace:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/graceexperimentsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grace-miller-linked-inFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comHighlights:04:40 When Doubling Content Backfired08:01 Why Multiple YouTube Channels?13:00 Measuring YouTube Experiments15:37 Underutilized YouTube Features21:55 The Power of YouTube Chapters
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  You Only Need This To Become Rich (Millionaire Explains) | Mike Brown | 119 12.03.2026 1h 13min

  Most people chase a single number, believing it holds the key to lasting happiness and an end to their worries. But what happens when you hit that number, or even exceed it, and find yourself staring into an emotional abyss? This week on The Nathan Barry Show, we sit down with Mike Brown, a former Navy fighter pilot who built and sold an eight-figure oil and gas company. He achieved what many dream of – supercars, a beautiful home, and immense wealth. Yet, he still found himself losing peace and $1.5 million in a failing venture, prompting a profound shift in his definition of "rich." Join us as Mike shares his powerful journey from external validation to true freedom, revealing why our pursuit of wealth often misses the point entirely.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:10 Mike sells his supercars and updates his values03:55 Embracing the "buy the ticket, take the ride" philosophy06:20 From Navy fighter pilot to oil and gas entrepreneur08:45 Finding a new definition of wealth: freedom15:58 Shifting from outcome goals to process goals20:55 Understanding dirty vs. clean fuel for motivation31:05 External validation and the never-ending treadmill36:30 The power of clean fuel: purpose and service41:15 How money serves two purposes44:10 The value of experiences over material possessions48:30 The spectrum of dirty and clean fuel52:30 When greatness comes at a cost57:25 Mechanical and emotional fixes for financial fear1:05:40 Maximizing return on happiness: experimental spending1:08:00 The highest leverage investments for entrepreneurs1:10:45 The invaluable cost of peace and personal growthIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Mike:Website: https://berichnow.comNewsletter: https://unbreakablewealth.com/newsletterInstagram: https://instagram.com/mbrown.coX: https://x.com/mbrown_coYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mbrown_coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebrownactualFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comHighlights:02:37 – How Your Bank Account & Calendar Show Your Values08:00 – Hitting Rock Bottom for a New Foundation16:00 – The Power of Process Goals Over Outcome Goals23:32 – Why Angel Investing Can Be "Dirty Fuel"37:35 – The Joy and Fulfillment of Serving Others44:50 – Maximizing "Return on Happiness"