HerMoney with Jean Chatzky

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  Ep 538: The Four-Day Workweek Is Real – So Why Don’t We Have It Yet? 29.07.2026 30min

  Every few weeks, another tech titan promises to hand us our time back. Jamie Dimon says a shorter workweek is coming. Elon Musk says AI will make work optional. Bill Gates is predicting two-day workweeks. Sounds amazing, except we don't actually need AI to get there. The research proving a shorter workweek works has been sitting in front of us for over a decade. This week, bestselling author and veteran journalist Joanne Lipman joins Jean Chatzky to unpack the gap between what these executives are promising in public and what they're actually demanding from their employees in private. In this episode, Jean and Joanne cover: Why the same executives predicting an AI-powered leisure future are also the most insistent on five-day, in-office weeks What over a decade of four-day workweek research shows about productivity, revenue, and burnout Why new technology almost never reduces our workload  Preorder Jean's new book: The Forever Paycheck is your guide to building a secure, steady income stream in retirement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Four Women Get Honest About Retirement Planning, Financial Peace, and the Money We Leave Behind 24.07.2026 38min

  Do you have enough? And how do you even know? In the third and final episode of HerMoney's series with AARP, From First Paycheck to Forever Paycheck, Jean Chatzky and her roundtable tackle the biggest question in personal finance — what does financial security actually feel like, and how do you build something that doesn't just sustain you, but actually gives you peace? Hannah Williams sold her business and walked away with a life-changing payout, and has never been more stressed.  Viviana Vazquez recently hit $100,000 in investments and says she already feels like she has enough.  Ashley Parker thinks about what would happen if she suddenly had to make it on her own, and making sure she always could.  And Carly Roszkowski shares the AARP data that keeps her up at night: 65% of women 50 and older don't feel confident about retirement, and nearly half of those still working have less than $50,000 saved. Jean also introduces a concept that changes everything: decumulation.  This is the third and final episode of From First Paycheck to Forever Paycheck, a three-part series in collaboration with AARP exploring women's financial lives across generations, from your first job to retirement and the legacy you leave behind. If you haven't listened to episodes one and two yet, go back and start there; this conversation builds on everything we've covered. Jean Chatzky's new book, The Forever Paycheck: The New Retirement Strategy to Spend More, Worry Less, and Never Run Out of Money, is available for pre-order now and publishes September 8, 2026. Whether you're looking to save money, manage debt, or prepare for retirement, AARP has resources and tools to help you prepare for your financial future to reach your goals. Get started at www.aarp.org/retirementreadiness. Want to calculate your FIRE number? We recommend this calculator from our friends at NerdWallet.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Ep 537: Why Your Medical Bills Are Bankrupting You and What You Can Do About It Today 22.07.2026 57min

  Your doctor isn't the enemy. So why does it feel like you're fighting them, and losing? This week, Jean Chatzky sits down with Dr. Jordan Grumet to talk about his explosive new book The Healthcare Heist: How Physicians and Patients Can Unite to Transform Healthcare. As a hospice physician who spent over two decades watching families drown in paperwork and impossible bills, Jordan has a clear-eyed diagnosis of what's actually wrong with American healthcare. Then, Lacy Garcia, founder and CEO of Willow, joins Jean to tackle the financial decisions women put off the longest…updating your estate plan, moving money out of savings and into investments, and protecting yourself financially no matter what life throws at you.  If today's conversation left you wanting more Doc G, you're in luck. Jordan has been on HerMoney twice before, once to talk about how to find your purpose, and once to dig into the money regrets people share at the end of their lives. Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck, is your guide to building a secure, steady income stream in retirement. Find a vetted fiduciary advisor at hermoney.com/findanadvisor. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The House of Cards: What Happens to Your Money When Life Blows Up the Plan 17.07.2026 39min

  Did your life turn out exactly the way you planned it? Nobody says yes. Not one person. In the second episode of HerMoney's three-part series with AARP, From First Paycheck to Forever Paycheck,  Jean Chatzky gets personal, sharing that at 40, she was fired, got divorced, and lost her father all in the same year. And the women around the table don't hold back either. Ashley Parker reveals she was in the bottom 5% of earners on The New York Times politics team, and nearly doubled her salary the moment she left.  Hannah Williams shares the terrifying moment her veteran husband had a dental emergency with no insurance and no options. Viviana Vazquez opens up about being the financial safety net for her entire family, including a $10,000 out-of-pocket dental bill for her mom.  And Carly Roszkowski talks about her husband's mid-life career pivot, and what it really means to become the breadwinner. Together, they tackle the financial trade-offs that millions of women face every day — stepping back from work, carrying the mental load, navigating the sandwich generation, and trying to build a safety net when life keeps pulling the floor out from under you. This is episode two of From First Paycheck to Forever Paycheck, a three-part series in collaboration with AARP exploring women's financial lives across generations, from your first job to retirement and the legacy you leave behind. Go back and listen to episode 1 in the series here! Jean Chatzky's new book, The Forever Paycheck: The New Retirement Strategy to Spend More, Worry Less, and Never Run Out of Money, is available for pre-order now and publishes September 8, 2026. Whether you're looking to save money, manage debt, or prepare for retirement, AARP has resources and tools to help you prepare for your financial future and reach your goals. Get started at aarp.org/planningforchange.    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Ep 536: AI and Your Money: What It Can Do, What It Can't, And Where It Could Get You Into Trouble 15.07.2026 33min

  What happens when you let AI run your life? In her book, I Am Not a Robot: My Year Using AI to Do (Almost) Everything, award-winning journalist Joanna Stern chronicles her yearlong experiment integrating AI into every aspect of her day-to-day, from healthcare and money management to household chores and, yes, even an AI-powered massage therapist. On this episode of the HerMoney Podcast, sponsored by LIMRA, Stern joins Jean Chatzky to share the most important lessons she learned, and to dig into how AI can genuinely help you with your money, as well as where it can still lead you dangerously astray.  Listen in to hear them cover: The biggest ways AI can help you save both money and time Why one of Stern’s biggest money-saving AI experiences started in a dentist chair The key things to watch out for when you’re letting AI help with your finances  For more on how AI can (and can’t) help you with your money – especially when it comes to planning for retirement –  check out this guide from LIMRA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  From First Paycheck to Forever Paycheck: How Women Can Build Wealth at Every Life Stage 10.07.2026 38min

  In the first episode of our three-part series with AARP, Jean Chatzky brings together four women across four generations- Gen Z creator Hannah Williams, Zillennial entrepreneur Viviana Vazquez, Millennial journalist Ashley Parker, and Gen X financial expert Carly Roszkowski- for an honest, freewheeling roundtable on building wealth across every life stage. They cover why the old financial playbook (get a job, buy a house, retire comfortably) doesn't work the way it used to, why younger women are investing earlier than any generation before them, the real cost of homeownership today versus a generation ago, and what women of every age get wrong about Social Security. Topics include:  Why Gen Z calls the 9-to-5 a horror movie The credit card mistakes nobody warns you about Walking away from a stable paycheck to build something of your own The truth about Social Security's future The financial habits each woman wishes she'd built earlier This conversation is part of a three-episode series, From First Paycheck to Forever Paycheck, in partnership with AARP, exploring women's financial lives across generations, from your first job to retirement and the legacy you leave behind. Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck, is your guide to building a secure, steady income stream so you can age on your own terms and actually enjoy the retirement you've worked so hard for.  Whether you're looking to save money, manage debt, or prepare for retirement, AARP has resources and tools to help you prepare for your financial future and reach your goals. Get started at aarp.org/buildwealth.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Ep 535: Mid-Year Investing Reset: SpaceX, AI Stocks, and What to Do With Your Portfolio Before 2026 Is Over 08.07.2026 36min

  On today’s episode, Jean sits down with Marta Norton, Chief Investment Strategist at Empower, for an honest, clear-eyed mid-year markets check-in. Marta has a point of view that many of you will find refreshing: that politics belongs at the Thanksgiving table, not in your portfolio. And she's here to tell us exactly why. In this episode, we cover: The AI concentration risk hiding inside your index funds, and what it means for your money Anthropic, OpenAI, the wave of mega-IPOs coming our way, and what everyday investors need to know Marta's best case and worst case scenarios for markets in the second half of 2026 And if you're thinking about how to make your money work harder for you in retirement, be sure to pre-order Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck, your guide to building a secure, steady income stream that actually lets you enjoy the retirement you've worked so hard for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The Cost of People-Pleasing: Sari Botton on Money, Reinvention, and Finding Yourself Later in Life 03.07.2026 33min

  Have you ever looked up and realized you've been living someone else's version of your life? Sari Botton, editor and writer behind Oldster Magazine and author of And You May Find Yourself: Confessions of a Late-Blooming Gen X Weirdo, knows that feeling intimately. And she's turned it into a body of work that has resonated with hundreds of thousands of people. In this episode: The financial cost of people-pleasing and deferring to others on money How women in the Oldster community have reinvented themselves professionally in their 50s, 60s, and beyond Why we put off wills and end-of-life planning, and what it actually costs us The "compare and despair" trap around money milestones Pre-order Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck. It's the guide to building the retirement income you need, so you can stop lying awake wondering if you'll have enough and actually start living.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Ep 534: The Aging and Money Mistakes We Swear We Won't Make (And Then Make Anyway) 01.07.2026 24min

  We all have a list… things we watched our parents do as they got older and swore we'd never do ourselves. We'd stay active. We'd embrace technology. We'd get the hearing aid. And then life happens. Washington Post columnist and author Steven Petrow has been thinking about this for nearly 20 years, and he joins Jean today to talk about the aging and money mistakes we make despite our very best intentions, and how to find your way back to joy even in the darkest chapters. Steven is the author of Stupid Things I Won't Do When I Get Old and his latest book, The Joy You Make, and he brings his signature honesty and humor to conversations about aging, money, loss, and starting over. In this episode, we cover: Why we all turn into our parents in the end, and why that's not entirely a bad thing How Steven found joy after losing both parents, going through a divorce, and watching his sister Julie battle Stage 4 ovarian cancer, all in the same year Why joy isn't the fireworks, and the small, everyday moments that actually sustain us Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck, is your guide to building a secure, steady income stream so you can age on your own terms and actually enjoy the retirement you've worked so hard for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  "I'm 62 with $1M saved. Should my husband and I get a divorce to protect our retirement?" 26.06.2026 17min

  Nobody wants to think about the possibility of losing their spouse to Alzheimer's. But what if planning ahead meant considering something as unexpected as divorce? That's exactly the question Susan is grappling with today. Susan is 62, still working, and earning around $100K a year. Her husband is 65 and already retired. Together they've built a solid financial foundation — over $778K in investments, $181K in savings, and more than $762K in assets, all with no debt. By most measures, they're in great shape. But the potential cost of memory care and assisted living has them worried that everything they've worked for could be wiped out. In this episode, Jean and Susan cover: What a "Medicaid divorce" actually is, and whether it's a legitimate financial strategy How Medicaid spend-down rules work and what they mean for married couples What asset protection strategies exist beyond divorce How to think through the emotional and financial costs of planning for a spouse's cognitive decline If today's conversation made you think about how to protect your retirement, Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck, is the perfect next step. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Ep 533: Living Off Your Acorns: How to Plan for All 4 Phases of Retirement 24.06.2026 30min

  What if the most important phase of retirement is the one nobody talks about? This week, Jean sits down with Dana Anspach, CFP, to walk through the four phases of retirement outlined in her new book, Living Off Your Acorns: Your Guide to the Four Phases of Retirement, including the phase she argues matters most of all: the Pre-Go years. Dana breaks down what to expect at every stage — from building your foundation before you retire, to navigating the emotional and financial shifts that come after — and shares the real stories of clients who had to course-correct, pivot, and reimagine what retirement could look like for them. In this episode, Jean and Dana cover: What the Pre-Go phase is, why it matters, and when it typically begins Why so many high achievers struggle to envision retirement What a $1 million retirement savings goal actually buys you in 2026 How to course-correct if you're behind on savings in your 50s and 60s If today's conversation made you think about saving enough for your retirement, Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck, is the perfect next step. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The Economic Freeze: What's Really Happening With Jobs, Housing, and Your Paycheck 19.06.2026 36min

  The economy added 172,000 jobs in May, nearly double what economists expected. So why did consumer sentiment just hit a record low? Why does everything still feel so hard? In this episode, Jean sits down with Sarah Foster, Personal Finance Reporter at Bloomberg, to break down what's really going on beneath the surface of those headline numbers, and what it means for your job, your home, and your retirement savings. In this episode, you'll learn: Why keeping your money in a traditional savings account right now means you're slowly losing ground What the lock-in effect really means for women who want to downsize before retirement How to think about home equity as a retirement tool The one financial move Sarah says everyone should make right now Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck, is available for pre-order now. It's your guide to building a secure, steady income stream that actually lets you enjoy the retirement you've worked so hard for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Ep 532: The Truth About Annuities: Busting Myths and Answering Your Biggest Questions 17.06.2026 34min

  Annuities might be one of the most misunderstood financial products out there – and they come with plenty of opinions…as well as questions. Are the fees really that high? Do advisors just push them for the commission? Could an annuity actually be the missing piece of your retirement plan?  On this episode of the HerMoney Podcast, we’re cutting through the noise with two leading experts: Michael Finke and Tamiko Toland of LIMRA’s Retirement Income Institute. They’re busting the biggest annuity myths, answering questions straight from our HerMoney Community and helping you figure out whether this type of protected income deserves a spot in your financial future.  Listen in to hear them cover: A jargon-free explanation of annuity types and terms to be aware of What to know if you’re buying an annuity – including how fees work Whether there’s a “right” age to purchase an annuity The next steps to take if an annuity sounds right for you Learn more: Most people want protected income for life. Few realize that’s what annuities provide. This resource from LIMRA covers everything you need to know. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Reinventing Your Career in the Age of AI? Jodi Kantor Says YES 12.06.2026 32min

  For white-collar workers, the recent headlines about AI are more than a little bit fear-inducing. AI could automate millions of white-collar jobs within 18 months. College graduates are booing commencement speakers who bring it up. And women — whose jobs are three times more likely to be automated — are falling behind on AI adoption. So what do you actually do? Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times journalist Jodi Kantor has answers. Her new book, How to Start: Discovering Your Life's Work, grew out of a question her Columbia University students asked her that she couldn't shake: how, in this environment, are we supposed to find our life's work? The answer, it turns out, applies just as much to a woman reinventing herself at 52 as it does to a 22-year-old just starting out. In this episode, Jean and Jodi get into: The two things every successful, happy person has: craft and need Why your messy, nonlinear résumé might be your biggest asset right now How to get a real human being to respond to your job outreach in the age of AI screening Jodi's three tips for cold outreach that actually work And if you're thinking about what your financial future looks like through all of this change, pre-order Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck — your guide to building income that lasts as long as you do. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Ep 531: The Secret to Retiring With Enough (That Americans Have Used for 300 Years) 10.06.2026 55min

  A new study shows Americans expect to delay retirement by four years as the cost of living rises…and 4 in 10 aren't confident they'll have enough money to last. If that sent you into a spiral, this episode is your permission to exhale. Historian, real estate investor, and early retiree Joseph S. Moore, PhD, spent years stress-testing three centuries of American financial advice, and what he found will reframe the way you think about retirement. His new book, How to Get Rich in American History: 300 Years of Financial Advice That Worked (and Didn't), makes the case that retirement anxiety is nothing new, and that every generation that's felt it has ended up being fine. Then, Jean sits down with Lacy Garcia, founder and CEO of Willow, an award-winning platform that connects women with vetted fiduciary financial advisors who actually understand their lives. Jean and Lacy get refreshingly honest about the money moves they wish they'd made sooner: investing earlier, finding an advisor before they felt "ready," keeping an emergency fund, and having the money conversations they'd been putting off.  Find a fiduciary advisor through Willow: hermoney.com/findanadvisor  📚 Pre-order Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The Lie of Girlboss Feminism: What's Really Holding Women Back 05.06.2026 35min

  We've been told to lean in, speak up, ask for the raise, and take up space. But what happens when doing everything right still isn't enough? Journalist and financial expert Stefanie O'Connell joins Jean to talk about her deeply researched new book, The Ambition Penalty: How Corporate Culture Tells Women to Step Up — and Then Pushes Them Down. In this conversation, Jean and Stefanie dig into why the girlboss era failed us, why women are penalized not for a lack of ambition but because of it, and what we can actually do about it. They cover: Why being fluent in the language of empowerment is not the same as actually being empowered How the ambition penalty follows women outside the workplace  Why you can't outwork inequality, but you can outorganize it What it really takes to build a life where your ambition is championed, not penalized And if you loved today's conversation, don't miss Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck — your guide to building a secure, steady income stream that lets you actually enjoy the retirement you've worked so hard for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Ep 530: How to Think Like a Millionaire When the Economy Feels Out of Control 03.06.2026 39min

  If you've been feeling financially anxious lately, the numbers back you up. A record 55% of Americans say their financial situation is getting worse, and 67% say they're more afraid of running out of money than dying.  This week, Jean sits down with Carrie Joy Grimes, author of the new book The Joy of Money, for a candid, wide-ranging conversation about financial anxiety, behavioral science, and exactly what wealthy people are doing with their money right now. In this episode, we cover: What wealthy people do differently with their money during volatile markets The Life Happens Fund: why a basic emergency fund isn't enough and how to build a real financial cushion The three-step self-compassion practice backed by behavioral science that helps you stop shame-spiraling over money mistakes The "Good Enough Retirement Vision" exercise that will help you stop feeling paralyzed about the future And if today's conversation got you thinking about your financial future, don't miss Jean's brand new book, The Forever Paycheck. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Brooke Shields Is Just Getting Started 29.05.2026 42min

  She's been famous since childhood, but Brooke Shields might be having her most interesting chapter yet, and she's the first to say she's done waiting to be picked. This week on HerMoney, we're thrilled to share a special replay of one of our favorite recent episodes from our sister podcast, How She Does It with Karen Finerman. Karen sits down with the actress, author, and entrepreneur for a wide-ranging conversation about reinvention, resilience, and what it really means to come into your own at 60. In this episode, you'll hear about: Why Brooke got tired of waiting for Hollywood to cast her and decided to develop her own show The very real moment she stood up to a dismissive VC Her experience with postpartum depression and why breaking the silence still matters What it's really like to serve as president of Actors' Equity  The beauty industry's failure to represent women over 50, and why Brooke decided to do something about it And if Brooke's story of betting on herself got you thinking about your own financial future, Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck, is the perfect next read. It's all about building income that lasts, so you can keep funding the next chapter. How She Does It is part of HerMoney Media. Subscribe and catch every episode wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Ep 529: Lessons from a Legend: What Jonathan Clements Taught Us About Money and Life 27.05.2026 28min

  There are people who change the way you think about money. And then there are people who change the way you think about life, and do it through the lens of money. Jonathan Clements was one of those people. The beloved personal finance columnist and Wall Street Journal veteran passed away in September 2025, leaving behind a remarkable legacy and one final book: Money and Me: How to Make Your Finances Work Harder for You and Your Family. This week, Jean sits down with Jason Zweig, Jonathan's dear friend and fellow Wall Street Journal columnist, to honor that legacy and dig into the lessons Jonathan left behind for all of us. They cover: The investing philosophy he championed for nearly 40 years, and why it's still the best advice out there The three dimensions of money and happiness: freedom from worry, spending on experiences, and using money to create meaning Why the shift from saving to spending in retirement is one of the hardest psychological transitions we face, and how to make it easier Jonathan's take on how much money to leave your kids  Why spending small is actually the smartest spending strategy of all And if today's conversation got you thinking about your own relationship with money, Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck, is the perfect next read. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  We Asked Real Women to Track Their Grocery Spending for a Week. Here's What Happened. 22.05.2026 33min

  What does a week of grocery shopping actually look like for real women right now? Jean Chatzky teams up with Yasmeen Khan, writer of Consumer Reports' Bread and Butter newsletter, for a special edition of A Week in Her Wallet, focused entirely on the grocery store. First, Jean and Yasmeen sit down with Lori, a mom of two boys in Massachusetts, who spent the week bouncing between Trader Joe's, Costco, and Stop & Shop. Then, Jean and Yasmeen dig into the bigger picture: what three women's grocery weeks revealed about how savvy shoppers have become, why store brands deserve a second look, and Consumer Reports' best tips for cutting costs at the checkout line right now. Links mentioned: Subscribe to Bread and Butter by Consumer Reports Yasmeen's recent newsletter on saving on groceries Fill out this form to be considered for a future A Week in Her Wallet episode Pre-order Jean's new book, The Forever Paycheck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices