How to Survive the End of the World
How to Survive the End of the World
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Join Autumn Brown and adrienne maree brown, two sisters who share many identities as writers, activists, facilitators, and inheritors of multiracial diasporic lineages, as they explore the practices needed to move through endings and come out whole. This podcast delves into community survival strategies and resilience in the face of collapse.
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How to Remember a Forgotten Paradise with Charlotte Brathwaite and Malick Welli 05.06.2026 1h 3minThe sisters are elated to dialogue with two revolutionary artists, Charlotte Brathwaite and Malick Welli. They share their love for art and one another and how their practices intersect with community, history, and transformation.Charlotte is an award-winning artist, creative director, and theater director whose work moves across performance, spectacle, and immersive experience. Working across theater, opera, film, dance, installation, and site-specific performance, Brathwaite creates cross-disciplinary projects that bring narrative, sound, movement, and space into close relationship. Her genre-defying practice centers the histories, realities, and imagined futures of communities that have been historically excluded, engaging questions of power, race, social justice, and collective memory.Malick is a Senegalese visual artist who lives and works in Dakar. His work lies at the intersection of fine art, photography and installation. His work has recently been shown at the National Museum of World Cultures in Leiden, Netherlands, and at the Chanel Fashion house’s 19M gallery. Welli is interested in religion, spirituality, power dynamics and how they shape visual culture. His work has been exhibited at 1-54 Contemporary African Art Fair (USA); Art X Lagos ( Nigeria) EXPO CHGO (USA); Cairo Biennial (Egypt); AKAA (Also Known As Africa, France), among others. His work is included in the permanent collection of the Chazen Museum of Art (USA). ---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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Blackness is the Radical Incompleteness of the World with Báyò Akómoláfé 29.05.2026 1h 1minThe sisters are ecstatic for this long overdue convo with Báyò Akómoláfé, Chief Curator of The Emergence Network, a speaker, author, fugitive neo-materialist com-post-activist public intellectual and Yoruba poet.Bayo's new book is Selah, about which adrienne writes, "Báyò Akómoláfé is a philosopher who is pushing us to think outside of every narrative we take for granted. In this text, he guides us to reconsider how we relate to the world—and to internalize the fact that earth and all of nature are alive, relating to us. Selah is an ancient Indigenous orientation, poured through Báyò’s trickster poetry to make for a fresh agitation.”---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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It's All Holy and it's All Ridiculous with The Bengsons 22.05.2026 1h 1minAbigail and Shaun Bengson are a married composing and performing duo raising two children in NYC and Vermont. Abigail was previously on the show in 2023 during our Witch Season. In this raucous and tender convo, The Bengsons trace the origins of their love and their most recent musical, My Joy is Heavy (watch an excerpt on Fallon!), which the New York Theatre Guide called "A MIND-BLOWING CELEBRATORY EXPLOSION" and 1-minute critic called "One of the most TRANSCENDENT EVENINGS OF THEATER you’ll see this year.”--TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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Landscapes of Reactivity, an Epic Ask Us Anything! 25.04.2026 1h 12minHey hey hey, it's a sister-sister AMA! Today on the show, adrienne and Autumn answer questions from our Patreon supporters. To access exclusive content and ask your own questions for future AMA episodes, become a BELOVED SURVIVOR TODAY! On this episode the sister's address questions that touch on the intersection of their sisterhood, how they engage in conflict, what happens when they're both right, what's up the “theologian” part of Autumn’s bio, favorite facilitation books, how they've brought forth their most authentic and most helpful selves, finding a discipline or practice to receive lineage not connected to earning money (like aikido for Autumn) and what's bringing the sisters joy and light in these dark times!LINKS-PRE-ORDER AUTUMN'S NEW BOOK!-Holding Change-Shit Facilitators SayBlack Feminist Futures-The Embodiment Institute-Sitting in the Fire: Large Group Transformation Using Conflict and Diversity--TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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Hot and Vibrant for the Apocalypse with Denée Benton 17.04.2026 1hDenée Benton (Eliza Hamilton in Hamilton! Cinderella in Into the Woods! Peggy Scott on The Gilded Age!) joins the sisters Brown to explore how creative work can serve social movements, the importance of community rituals, the evolving role of celebrity in activism, the strategic importance of joy, feeling panicked less and feeling vibrant more.--TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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If hope is a muscle, then how do I build it? 10.04.2026 30minAutumn is hosting another show and you're gonna love it! In the Season Four premiere of the Climate Changed podcast, Autumn talks with Tory Stephens, a storyteller, cultural worker, and climate justice advocate.They explore the transformative power of climate fiction and its role in helping us envision the future. Tory discusses his groundbreaking work at Grist, where he founded Imagine 2200, an initiative that asks a simple yet radical question: What if we wrote stories not about what we fear but about what we hope to create? The discussion dives into how imagination connects with responsibility, how storytelling serves as a profound form of spiritual leadership, and why envisioning a new reality is essential for climate justice.---TRANSCRIPT---Resources & Concepts Mentioned:Thrutopia: Coined by philosopher Rupert Read and popularized by author Manda Scott through the Thrutopia Masterclass, a Thrutopian narrative threads the needle between utopia and dystopia. It focuses on writing grounded, plausible, and inspiring route maps that show exactly how we navigate through our current struggles to reach a future we’d be proud to leave behind.Bloodchild by Octavia E. Butler: Autumn quotes the legendary science fiction author—who was the first African American woman to reach mainstream success in the genre—and her collection Bloodchild and Other Stories, reflecting on how sci-fi stimulates necessary imagination and creativity.North Woods by Daniel Mason: A novel mentioned by Nicole Diroff from The BTS Center’s Summer Fiction Book Club, highlighting how fiction can make the natural landscape the main character.Humans of New York: The iconic photoblog that Tory credits with changing his perspective early in his career, teaching him the unparalleled power of human-centric storytelling over dry statistics.Visionary Fiction: A framework of world-building and storytelling that Autumn Brown and her sister use in their writing retreats, which actively wrestles with the sacred and reclaims spiritual practices.Dream Seeds: A term favored by Grist and Imagine 2200 to describe stories that plant concrete, hopeful visions of how society could be organized completely differently.Eve Mosher & Creating Your Story of Tomorrow: An adult education facilitator guide and video created by renowned environmental artist Eve Mosher, available on the BTS Center’s Leadership Commons.“Seven Sisters” by Susan Kaye Quinn; 3rd place winner of the 2022 Imagine 2200 contest.The Case of the Missing Lake by Colby Devitt; published in November 2025 by Imagine 2200.LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/torystephensBluesky: @torystephens.bsky.socialImagine 2200 (Grist): About Imagine 2200: Climate FictionMore from Tory: Shaping the Future Through Climate Fiction (Podcast Interview)Read the Collections: Thank Yous: We want to extend our deepest gratitude to everyone who made this episode possible:Tory Stephens, for sharing his incredible vision, imagination, and wisdom with us.Peterson Toscano, producer of Climate Changed, for producing this episode and for providing the wonderful grounding for this episode.The BTS Center team, for your ongoing support and for providing the resources and platform that make this podcast possible.A podcast by The BTS Center exploring some of the most pressing questions about faith, life, and climate change.Produced by Peterson Toscano, the podcast features acclaimed guests such as Brian McLaren, Elizabeth Rush, Craig Santos Perez, and many more.
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New Life and Joy, Death and Grief, Absolute Bewilderment and Confusion with Kaji Reyes and Sendolo Diaminah 03.04.2026 1h 1minadrienne and Autumn are thrilled to explore the intersection of spirit, ritual and movement organizing with dear friends of the show, Kaji Reyes and Sendolo Diaminah. The conversation touches on creativity and art in ritual and ceremony, the role of geography and land in spiritual work and the challenge and potential of balancing political activism with ritual practice.Kaji has over two decades of experience across a gamut of community organizing issues and spent seven years at Durham for All. Among other projects, he currently manages the land and animals of a budding community project called Owl Song. Sendolo is the Co-Director of The Carolina Federation, where s/he works building governing power for working people and communities of color in North Carolina. S/he is a strategist with over 15 years of experience in community and electoral organizing, as well as experience winning and holding elected office. ---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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A Flirtation with Capitalism with Jenn Kidwell and Brandon Kazen-Maddox 27.03.2026 1h 8minThe sisters are ecstatic to welcome OBIE Award-winning artist Jenn Kidwell and ASL artist Brandon Kazen-Maddox to discuss “we come to collect: a flirtation, with capitalism,” a play which invites "you to roll in the pigsty of American consumerism." The New Yorker calls Kidwell "a comic genius in a leopard-print bra and puffball coat."In this episode, we learn how the play emerged, where its accretion of collaborators came from, mirror as metaphor and set-piece, the artistry of ASL and why everyone should learn it and how this striking work of art asks audiences to literally give Jenn money!---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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Write The Next World With Us 20.03.2026 1h 6minadrienne and Autumn are joined by Kate McCabe (Founder and Executive Director of Bog & Thunder), Max Sussman (Culinary Director of Bog & Thunder) and Dwight Dunston (facilitator, hip-hop artist, educator, and activist) to chronicle and celebrate their majestic time on a private island in the wilds of West Cork for a writing workshop unlike any other. Writing the Next World is a space to ideate, experiment with genre, and find a writing voice that creates more possibilities for our collective future, all while exploring the beautiful Connemara countryside and eating outstanding food. The event is rooted in the lineages of visionary and speculative fiction and Black Feminist Praxis. The next one is coming up JULY 5TH - JULY 10TH. APPLY HERE!---Listen to WRITING THE NEXT WORLD: the album by duns---Max's Egg Salad Recipe!6 eggs40 gm celery, diced20 gm pickles, diced60 gm mayo30 gm red onion, diced2 Tbsp parsley, finely chopped2 scallions, slicedPinch MSGplenty of salt and pepper1. Bring pot of water to a boil. Add eggs and start a 10 minute timer, keep eggs at a low boil the entire time. 2. After 10 minute timer goes off, place eggs in ice bath until cool.3. Chop eggs or break up with gloved hands. 4. Mix with remaining ingredients, adjust seasoning to taste.---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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Moving Toward the Horizon of Love Together with Sonya Renee Taylor 06.03.2026 1hOriginally recorded on IG live, adrienne and her friend, the author, activist and artist Sonya Renee Taylor process being a survivor in these times. Loving shouts to Tarana Burke for all the portal opening and Amanda Doyle for clear history sharing. Let it make us seeds of love, let us hold each other tight and continue to pull back the veil.---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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Building a Movement Full of Doors and Windows with Morgan Bassichis 27.02.2026 1h 7minThe sisters are THRILLED to build with their dear friend, Morgan Bassichis. Morgan is a comedian, musician, Anti-Zionist activist and writer who has been called “a tall child or, well, a big bird” by The Nation and “fiercely hilarious” by The New Yorker. Their show, Can I Be Frank? just won an Obie!The trio discuss finding the funny in the sad and tragic, the life of a Jewish artist fighting for Palestine, being brought up in the cult of 'it's complicated', the clarity of doing what we can to disentangle Judaism and Zionism, tapping into compassion, how haters can't make good art, shared power vs. siloed power and the precipice of something big happening in OUR lifetime.---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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Who We Are Becoming Matters with Norma Wong 20.02.2026 1h 7minThe sisters are THRILLED to welcome poet, Zen master and Indigenous Hawaiian leader Roshi Norma Wong back to the show! Her new book is part story-poem-instruction manual. It's called Who We Are Becoming Matters and is now available wherever books are sold! CLICK HERE TO SUPPORTAN INDIE BOOKSELLER.In this conversation they discuss Minneapolis, Norma's cool hand clasp model to show how our minds and feelings can sync up or not, dealing with trauma and grief, especially with all the chaos around us, what discipline entails and the true meaning of Aloha.---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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Live from The Great Northern (feat. Penguin Daddies) 13.02.2026 59minadrienne and Autumn convened in Minneapolis at the end of January for a live taping of the show at The Great Northern Winter Festival. Every year The Great Northern puts on a winter festival that celebrates our coldest season as a time to gather, create, and connect. It’s an open invitation to engage with the outdoors, experience art and culture, and embrace winter, together---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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Autumn Brown Becomes the Vision 06.02.2026 52minAutumn was recently in conversation with Dr. Chera Reid and Dr. Trinel Torian on their wonderful podcast, Becoming the Vision where they invite visionaries from the field of philanthropy and beyond who believe and practice the idea that we must change ourselves in order to change the world. Subscribe to Becoming the Vision wherever you listen to HTS.In this episode they talk through Autumn's creative origin story and then go deep into Autumn's new book, Temper: Practicing Freedom in an Unfree World. YOU CAN AND SHOULD PRE-ORDER NOW! ---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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I am a Funeral Pyre with Nnenna and Pierce Freelon 30.01.2026 1h 10minThe sisters are ecstatic to welcome Nnenna and Pierce Freelon to the show.Nnenna is a GRAMMY nominated jazz singer, storyteller and grief sojourner. Her latest album is Beneath the Skin. Her new book is Beneath the Skin of Sorrow: Improvisations on Loss.Nneena’s son Pierce is a GRAMMY nominated artist, picture book author and podcaster. His GRAMMY nominated children’s music albums AnceStars (2023) and Black to the Future (2021) have been featured on Today Show, NPR and Billboard. He has written songs for the PBS Kids animated series’ Alma’s Way and Work it Out Wombats!The Freelons regal the Browns with tales of the late great architect/husband/father, Phil Freelon, being Maya Angelou's friend, manufacturing space ice cream, living in an Octavian future, having to leave Nancy Drew behind and go off-planet, settling in North Carolina, making puppet art about grief, digging where your tears fall and scatting your way through the universe.---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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FRACTAL #6: Altars as/for Your Art 23.01.2026 20minThe sisters describe how and why they build altars for creation and detail recalibrated writing nooks, work laptops, writing in the tub and car, vision boards, doodles for the self and bringing their creative and familial ancestors into the mix.---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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FRACTAL #5: The Beauty and Precision of Project Management 16.01.2026 26minThe sisters nerd out on project (and self!) management, spreadsheets, procrastination, saving your work and ensuring you have adequate support for the art you're making.---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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An Emergency Dispatch from Occupied Minneapolis: "Intense, Frightening, Surreal and Inspiring." 14.01.2026 39minAutumn lives, works and organizes in Minneapolis, where, for over 6 weeks, ICE has escalated its tactics in abducting people from their home. adrienne asks her what's happening on the ground right now and how YOU can get involved.https://defend612.com/https://unidos-mn.org/ ---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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FRACTAL #4: The Womb of Weird 09.01.2026 22minAnother year, another fractal! Autumn and adrienne revel in the majesty their respective weirdness in the artistic process and how improvisation and structure co-mingle. ---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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FRACTAL #3: Storyboarding, Structuring and Tending your Creative Garden 26.12.2025 23minAnother fractal! The sisters dive into the intricacies of storyboarding and structuring in their writing process and how visual mapping can aid in organizing thoughts and ideas. Also, how to balance structure vs. chaos.---TRANSCRIPT---SUPPORT OUR SHOWhttps://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow---HTS ESSENTIALSSUPPORT Our Show on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/EndoftheworldshowPEEP us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/
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