The Edge of Human and AI
Rebecca Rutschmann
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The Edge of Human & AI explores the intersection of coaching and artificial intelligence, examining how AI impacts ethics, innovation, and human connection in the coaching world. Each episode tackles critical questions about what remains irreplaceably human. The podcast emphasizes depth over hype and evidence over buzzwords. It is a production of Viva la Coaching.
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What Both Sides of the AI Debate Have in Common — and the Risk Neither Is Talking About | with Dr. Laura Rees-Davies 31.07.2026 59minDr. Laura Rees-Davies is a Chartered Coaching Psychologist, Senior Lecturer at Cardiff Metropolitan University, and active practicing coach — and she's mid-way through something most researchers don't have the nerve to do: interviewing coaches at every point of the AI adoption spectrum, and following the data wherever it leads. What she's finding surprised even her. In this conversation with Rebecca Rutschmann, Laura shares what 25 qualitative interviews have already revealed: coaches who've built their entire practice around AI and coaches who want nothing to do with it don't disagree on what coaching is for. They carry the same hopes. The same concerns. The same core belief — that coaching exists to help people flourish, to grow, and to eventually not need the coach anymore. The disagreement isn't about values. It's about the one question the whole field is working to answer: what is the actual difference between a human coach and an AI coach? And then there's the risk she doesn't hear enough people talking about. Not coaches being left behind. Coaches moving forward carelessly — using tools that hold sensitive conversations without informed consent, without data protection, without asking what a platform does with what gets said in a session. Or with what gets said about them. She doesn't see the danger in resistance. She sees it in acceleration without guardrails. Laura co-researches with Professor Jonathan Passmore, co-signed the Manifesto for AI in Coaching, and presented on the research panel at the NYU Coaching and Technology Summit 2026. My closing reflection might stay with you long after the episode ends. In this episode, Laura and Rebecca explore: What 25 qualitative interviews have already surfaced — and what surprised Laura most The difference between coaches who are "unskilled and unaware" vs. those who actively choose not to use AI Why "evidence-based" and "research-informed" are not the same thing — and how to tell the difference The democratic promise of AI coaching — and its real limits Why Laura worries less about coaches falling behind, and more about coaches moving forward without protecting their clients or themselves What informed consent really looks like when AI enters the coaching relationship Why the gap between sessions — the discomfort of not having an answer yet — might matter more than we think Resources & Links Manifesto for AI in Coaching: vivalacoaching.com/manifesto Laura's AI in Coaching research survey (with Prof. Jonathan Passmore) Become AI-informed — Rebel Store: vivalacoaching.com All episodes: vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast Participate in Laura's Research: Laura and Professor Jonathan Passmore are running a quantitative survey on self-efficacy, perceived ethical risk of AI in coaching, and professional identity. They need 250 participants — and want to hear from coaches whether or not you use AI. Listen within the next four weeks and use the survey link above to get involved. -
The Art of Becoming a Mature Coach | with David Drake 24.07.2026 58minThere's a moment when competency stops being enough. You know the techniques. You've logged the hours. You've helped people move. And still — something in you knows there's a further shore, and the models you've mastered can't take you there. David Drake has spent 30 years mapping what lies beyond mastery. As the creator of Narrative Coaching and author of the forthcoming Five Maturities, he has been building a language for something most coaches can feel but rarely name: the difference between getting better at what you do — and becoming something different altogether. This conversation is about that becoming. In this episode, Rebecca and David explore: Why maturity is not just more mastery — and how competency models take you from novice to adequate but never to wise The Five Maturities framework and what it actually asks of a coach willing to move beyond identity and defensiveness The Third Spaces model — and why staying in the ping-pong match keeps us circling the same carousel What a rappelling guide taught David about presence, and why your feet know things your head doesn't How AI will reshape the coaching landscape — and what that frees humans to finally become And the question David returns to throughout his work: What is calling you? This is a conversation for coaches who suspect the horses could run — if they'd just let them off the carousel. Resources: David runs the Moment Institute: themomentinstitute.com His personal website: www.davidbdrake.com His book on the Five Maturities is out in August 2026 -
How AI Is Forcing the Leadership Shift We Were Never Prepared For | with Sheila Boysen-Rotelli 17.07.2026 44minNo one prepared us for this. Not our leadership programs. Not our years of expertise. Not the organizations we built our identities inside. AI is forcing a shift that most leaders, educators, and coaches were never designed to support — and the gap between recognizing it intellectually and actually making the transition is wider, and more personal, than most people are willing to admit. In this episode, Rebecca is joined by Sheila Boysen-Rotelli — organizational consultant, researcher, academic, and coach, working at BTS and across higher education at the intersection of leadership development, adult transformation, and the future of work. Sheila has spent 15 years researching the future of work, and for the past few years has been watching it arrive in real time — in boardrooms, classrooms, and coaching sessions — in ways that are both exhilarating and deeply unsettling. Together, they explore why AI isn't just a technological disruption — it's a developmental one. Why the tools and identities that made us successful are suddenly inadequate, and what it actually takes to move from expert to learner when the stakes are real and the room is watching. They get into the uncomfortable irony of learning institutions being the most resistant to the disruption that catalyzes growth, how AI innovation is quietly emerging from the most unexpected corners of organizations, and what it looks like to co-design change instead of manage it from a distance. And then there's the part that may matter most: the honest, lived gap between knowing better and doing better. Sheila doesn't offer this from a textbook — she names it from her own experience. Someone who is getting more frustrated than usual, who is being asked to be more supportive of herself rather than harder, who is learning that the expert hat, for all its comfort, was never the whole wardrobe. The real shift isn't about reaching a summit. It's about range — the capacity to move, flex, and meet other human beings where they are. If you've ever felt quietly unprepared for what AI is asking of you — not technically, but humanly — this conversation is for you. What you'll take away: Why AI is a forcing function for vertical development — and why horizontal skills alone won't get you through what's coming The "from expert to learner" shift: what it costs, what it requires, and why most leaders resist it even when they know better The "cup" metaphor: how we confuse adding skills with actually expanding the inner capacity to hold complexity Why AI innovation in organizations is coming from the least expected places — and what leaders need to do about it The uncomfortable irony of institutions built for learning being the most resistant to the disruption that makes growth possible Why it's not about the summit — it's about range, and what that means for every leader, educator, and coach navigating today Links mentioned in this episode: Sheila on LinkedIn Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
What "Client-Centered" Actually Demands in the Age of AI | with Jonathan Reitz 10.07.2026 53minWhat if the biggest barrier to AI in coaching isn't the technology — it's the coach? Jonathan Reitz has spent 29 years coaching leaders and building coaches. He has a wildly unlikely backstory — electrical engineering, stand-up comedy, radio, TV news — and an ADHD diagnosis just two years ago that finally explained all of it. Now a leading voice at the NYU AI Summit and ICF Germany, Jonathan joins Rebecca for one of the most honest conversations on this show about what "client-centered" actually requires of us in 2026. Together they explore why humility — not methodology — is the single greatest predictor of coaching success, why clients are more comfortable with AI in coaching than most coaches are, and what responsible AI use really looks like (including the one clause that must be in every coaching contract). Plus: a German word that stopped a 29-year coaching veteran cold — and a question about silence that nobody in the coaching world has ever answered directly. If you coach, lead, or care about humans in the age of AI — this one is for you. What you'll take away: Jonathan's unconventional journey ADHD diagnosis Why heterogeneous conversations matter Leaders vs. managers "We're in it together": why AI is less threatening in a vision-based leadership culture The unanswered question no coach has ever answered directly The growing edge for coaches in 2026 Augenhohe (eye-level): the German coaching concept Rebecca introduces AI as the "Third Voice" Build habits first, then invite AI in Jonathan's 3 requirements for responsible AI Jonathan's 3 AI tools Staying human Links mentioned in this episode: Jonathan on LinkedIn Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
AI Is Here to Stay — But So Are We | with David E. Cooley 03.07.2026 59minWhat if the best way to be more human as a coach... is to use more AI? In this episode, Rebecca is joined by David E. Cooley — Director of Alumni Career Services and Executive Coach at the UCLA Anderson School of Management, and founder of the David E. Cooley Executive Coaching Scholarship at NYU. David bridges two worlds: the strategic use of AI in coaching sessions, and the deeply human skill of showing up fully present for every client. Together, they explore why applying to jobs online has become an "electronic black hole," how AI note-takers are actually making coaching conversations richer and more connected, and why the coaches who embrace AI will have a massive differentiator over those who don't. They also unpack the gap between AI resistors and overconfident over-reliers, and what leaders really need to do to guide their teams through this change. And then there's this — the thing that might matter most: when fear gets in the way, when imposter syndrome creeps in, when the overwhelm feels too big to push through... the answer is almost never "do more." It's to take the next small, meaningful step. Just one. That's it. Drawing on BJ Fogg's Tiny Habits and Carol Dweck's growth mindset, David makes a compelling case that starting small isn't settling — it's the whole strategy. The coaches who get this will move. The ones who wait for perfect readiness, won't. Whether you're a coach, a leader, or just someone trying to figure out where you fit in an AI-powered world — this conversation will leave you with both permission and a plan. What you'll take away: Why AI note-takers amplify the humanity in coaching sessions The "electronic black hole" of online job applications — and what actually works instead Over-reliance vs. over-confidence: the AI gap David sees every day What skills leaders and coaches need most right now Why the next small, meaningful step is often all it takes to move through fear, imposter syndrome, and overwhelm Why "AI is here to stay — but so are we" Links and resources mentioned in this episode: David on LinkedIn David's private coaching practice UCLA Anderson Alumni Career Services David E. Cooley Executive Coaching Scholarship at NYU Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
Viva la Humans: AI, Regulation, and Reinvention - Expanding the Conversation after NYU Coaching & Technology Summit 2026 (LIVE Recording) 26.06.2026 47minWhat happens when a room full of coaches, researchers, and tech innovators gathers in New York — and the biggest question isn't about AI, but about coaching itself? In this special Guardians LIVE episode, Rebecca and Viva la Coaching community members who attended the 5th Annual NYU Coaching & Technology Summit reflect on what stayed with them, what made them uncomfortable, and what the coaching profession still needs to confront. From the growing call for government regulation to the "tear it all down" energy in a packed breakout session, this is an honest, unfiltered debrief from people who were in the room. Together, they explore the maturation of AI in coaching — now normalized, no longer frightening — and what that means for the profession's identity. They discuss blended coaching models, the power of wearables in health coaching, and why the era of the session as the center of coaching may be coming to an end. The episode closes on a hopeful note: that coaching skills — reimagined, broadened, and freed from their rigid definitions — could become one of the most essential human competencies of our time. Viva la humans. Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
High-Performance Parenting - Balancing Leadership, Wellness & Family | with Neal Sundberg & Nicholas Wooters 19.06.2026 1h 1minJoin Rebecca as she sits down with Neal Sundberg (Director of Care Programs at Brightline) and Nicholas Wooters (Co-Founder of Coya) during a Webinar for a deeply personal conversation about thriving as a leader both at work and at home. Discover how wearable technology paired with health coaching creates powerful insights for managing stress, setting boundaries, and showing up fully in every role. This special request episode explores why self-care isn't selfish, it's essential modeling for your children and the foundation of sustainable high performance. What you'll take away: A new frame for "putting yourself first" — it's not selfish, it's the foundation. Neal and Nicholas break down why your own wellbeing is the most powerful investment you can make as a parent, leader, and human. The truth about modeling — your kids (and your team) are always watching. Not just what you say, but how you treat yourself. This episode will make you look at your everyday habits with fresh eyes. A challenge to your "someday" thinking — we talk about growing, resting, investing in ourselves... but always later. This conversation will give you the nudge (and the permission) to start now. The ripple effect of coaching — how the work you do on yourself doesn't stay with you. It touches the people you raise, lead, and love. That's the real ROI of this work. Practical perspective on what integrated wellness actually looks like — drawing from both behavioral health and coaching, Neal and Nicholas paint a picture of what it means to truly thrive, not just cope. Links and resources mentioned in this episode: Brightline - Pediatric behavioral health company Coya - Wearable technology + coaching platform Oura Ring - Wearable device for sleep and recovery tracking Headspace - Mental Health Coaching Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
How Can We Make Care More Intelligent Without Making It Less Human? | with Dr. Moain Abu Dabrh 12.06.2026 47minDr. Moain Abu Dabrh is a medical humanist, researcher at Mayo Clinic, and board member at the National Board for Health and Wellness Coaching — and he's been asking one question his entire career: How can we make care more intelligent without making it less human? In this conversation with Rebecca Rutschmann, he unpacks four real concerns about AI in healthcare — dehumanization, overconfidence, inequity, and the regulatory unknown — while making a powerful case for whole person care and why health and wellness coaches are the missing link between the clinic and lasting human change. He's not a pessimist. He's a pragmatist. And his closing thought? These days, we're finally asking better questions. What you'll take away: Why AI in healthcare could widen inequity — and the four risks every leader needs to know Why coaches are the missing link between clinical care and real, lasting human change How burnout became a pandemic long before COVID — and why individual solutions aren't enough Why the best leaders are healthy leaders — and the case for merging health and executive coaching What gives Dr. Abu Dabrh hope: we've moved from "can we?" to "should we?" Links and resources mentioned in this episode: Moain Abu Dabrh on LinkedIn National Board for Health and Wellness Coaching Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
From Wild West to Apple Store and Why The Profession Isn't Going to Solve AI Alone | with Susan Caesar 12.06.2026 42minSusan Caesar is the first-ever Chief AI Officer at the International Coaching Federation and founder of Humane Org. Her career has had one red thread: being human. And her message to the coaching profession right now? You don't have to figure this out alone. In this conversation with Rebecca Rutschmann, Susan makes a passionate case for community as the antidote to overwhelm — AI circles, chapter conversations, shared learning — because the coaching profession's greatest strength has always been how it shows up together. She also pulls no punches on big tech's accountability problem, draws a hard line on "AI is not a coach," and shares ICF's vision for where the profession is heading: a marketplace like the Apple Store, programming like Netflix, and a community that's finally moving from fear to action. What you'll take away: Why Susan is calling on every coach to start their own AI circle — and exactly how to do it How the coaching profession shifted from fearful to practical between 2024 and 2025 The three lenses of Susan's role at ICF — members, tech providers, and public safety Why big tech isn't accountable — and why the coaching profession needs to dial up its ethics now What "consciousness" means when you're deciding how and when to use AI Links and resources mentioned in this episode: Susan Caesar on LinkedIn ICF Coaching and Technology Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
BONUS - Five Years at the Intersection: Coaching, Technology and What's Coming Next | with Dr. Anna Tavis 08.06.2026 28minWhat if AI isn't pushing us away from our humanity but is forcing us back to it? Dr. Anna Tavis, co-founder of the NYU Coaching & Technology Summit, joins Rebecca Rutschmann to mark five years at the intersection of coaching and technology. From a handful of masked startups and early scale-ups in 2022 to CHROs from Netflix and IBM rethinking everything — the landscape has transformed, and coaches can no longer afford to watch from the sidelines. Anna makes the case that coaching is the antidote to automation. And that the next frontier isn't just the boardroom, it's health, education, and the whole of human life. A conversation about technology, humanity, and what it means to shape the future rather than be shaped by it Join the NYU Coaching & Technology Summit next week 15/16 June https://www.sps.nyu.edu/about/events/human-capital-management-department-events/coaching-and-technology-summit.html This is a Viva la Coaching Podcast Production https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
The Health Coaching Profession is Growing Too Fast to Be Left Unguarded | with Deanna Fournier 05.06.2026 44minHealth coaching is growing fast — wearables are tracking everything, AI is entering the wellness space, and more people than ever are looking for support beyond the clinic. But who's making sure any of it actually works? Deanna Fournier and the National Board for Health and Wellness Coaching are. In this conversation, Deanna unpacks why a rigorous credentialing body isn't bureaucracy — it's protection. Protection for clients navigating a market that's moving faster than its standards. She makes the case for why health coaching belongs inside healthcare systems, not alongside them, and why the explosion of digital health tools only makes the human, credentialed coach more essential — not less. What you'll take away: Why a governing body for health coaching isn't red tape — it's the thing that makes the profession trustworthy How wearables and AI are creating more data but not more wellbeing — and where coaches fill that gap The access problem: why health coaching is still a luxury for most, and what needs to change Why health coaching belongs integrated inside healthcare, not as an optional add-on What it takes to credential a coach for the complexity of real human health Links and resources mentioned in this episode: Deanna Fournier on LinkedIn Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
Who's Responsible? 4 Billion People Need Coaching and Tech Companies Got There First | with Lewin Keller 05.06.2026 48minThere are 120,000 certified coaches on the planet. There are 4 billion people who could use one. And right now, it's tech companies — not coaches — who are deciding what coaching means for all of them. Lewin, founder of CoachBot.ai, joins Rebecca Rutschmann for one of the most honest conversations in this series. A former Google engineer turned coach turned AI builder, he pulls no punches on the responsibility gap in AI coaching, the design mistakes organisations make, and why coaches who are sitting on the sidelines are running out of time. This is the wake-up call the profession needs — delivered with passion, data, and zero filter. What you'll take away: Why responsibility is the pink elephant nobody in AI coaching wants to talk about How a "police officer" moderating agent keeps AI coaches from going off the rails Lewin's personal journey letting go of purely non-directive coaching — and what he learned The real numbers behind the coaching access gap and why AI is the only answer at scale What organisations are fundamentally getting wrong when they implement AI coaching Why you have two to three years to build your AI literacy before you're left behind Links and resources mentioned in this episode: Lewin Keller on LinkedIn Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
Why Optimism Is the Most Important Skill for Coaches Right Now | with Dr. Woody Woodward 29.05.2026 50minWoody Woodward has coached senior executives, built a Master's degree at NYU, co-authored The Digital Coaching Revolution, co-created the NYU Coaching & Technology Summit in 2022 and is now Chief Coaching Officer at BetterUp, leading the world's largest coaching network of 4,000 coaches across 70 countries. In this conversation, Woody shares what four million coaching sessions and the world's largest coaching dataset actually tell us about what great coaching looks like and introduces us to BetterUp's newly developed GUIDE framework, built from the ground up from client data. We also talk about why 51% of employees want a blend of human and AI coaching, why those who engage with AI tools are 30% more likely to also engage with their human coach, and why optimism is one of the seven most critical mindsets for an AI-ready coach. This is a wide-ranging, warm conversation about the future of the profession, the responsibility that comes with coaching someone through hard decisions, and what it means to humanise the experience of work. What you'll take away: BetterUp's GUIDE framework — and why it was built from the client side, not the coach side The data on how people blend human and AI coaching 7 mindsets every AI-ready coach needs (and why optimism tops the list) What enterprise buyers are actually asking for right now Where the coaching profession needs to raise its standards Why coaches are the best-positioned professionals to help humans adapt to an uncertain world Links and resources mentioned in this episode: BetterUp Dr. Woody Woodward on LinkedIn Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
The Uncomfortable Truth from a Researcher: AI Has Raised the Bar for Coaching | with Prof. Dr. Nicky Terblanche 29.05.2026 40minNicky Terblanche is the world's leading researcher in AI coaching. He recently received the Anthony Grant Award for Research Excellence at the IOC Conference in Boston, named after the researcher who inspired him to care about evidence in the first place. A full-circle moment worth celebrating, A former software engineer turned coach turned academic, he started thinking about the possibilities before anyone was paying attention. Nicky has spent the last seven years at Stellenbosch University building the evidence base for what AI coaching actually is, what it can do, and what it definitely can't. In this conversation, we dig into his most surprising recent findings — including why a CBT-based AI chatbot outperformed both GROW and solution-focused approaches, why people actually prefer a slightly more directive AI coach (and what that means for the field), and why the bond you form with an AI chatbot matters far less than you'd think. We also talk about the "Wild West" of AI coaching, the uncanny valley of digital avatars, the extraordinary potential of AI coaching in Africa and the Global South — and what coaches really need to stop worrying about. What you'll take away: What the latest research actually shows about AI coaching effectiveness Why methodology matters more than the chatbot The surprising finding about CBT vs. GROW in AI coaching What personality type moderates your preference for directive vs. non-directive AI coaching Why Nicky believes AI coaching could transform access in developing countries What coaches need to do NOW to future-proof their practice Links and resources mentioned in this episode: Nicky Terblanche LinkedIn A design framework to create Artificial Intelligence Coaches Research Article: Comparing GROW, solution-focused and CBT coaching chatbots Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
How AI is Changing the Leaders We Coach | with Pam Krulitz 22.05.2026 42minThe coaching conversation has been obsessing over one question: how is AI changing coaching? Pam Krulitz thinks we're asking the wrong one. The more important question — the one nobody's talking about loudly enough — is how AI is changing the leaders we coach. Because the people sitting across from us now aren't the same leaders they were three years ago. They're navigating constant change, managing teams alongside AI agents, and making decisions at a pace that's never existed before. And if we're still bringing them the same coaching we always have, we're already behind. Pam founded Optify in 2018 with a simple but radical idea: coaching should reach people earlier in their careers, not just at the top. Eight years, one pandemic, and one AI revolution later, she's watching a shift that reminds her of something she's seen before — the move from Waterfall to Agile in software development. That wasn't a process tweak. It was a fundamental rethinking of how you build things. She thinks AI is doing exactly the same to leadership development — and most of the industry hasn't caught up yet. Rebecca and Pam dig into what coaches actually need to bring to clients now, how to turn AI tools into real learning opportunities rather than just getting stuff done, and what it means to help a leader who's no longer just leading people. In this episode: Why "how is AI changing coaching?" is the wrong question Leading agents, not just people — what that means for who we coach Learning in the flow of work as the new coaching frontier What coaches need to bring to clients that AI simply cannot Links and resources mentioned in this episode: Optify.io Pam Krulitz LinkedIn Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
How Responsible AI looks like in Mental Health Coaching | with Shelby Garay 22.05.2026 37minAs Program Director of the Headspace Training Institute — training the next generation of mental health coaches — Shelby sits at one of the most critical intersections in coaching today: where AI meets mental health, and where getting it wrong has real consequences. This conversation is about what getting it right actually looks like. At Headspace, that means clinical safety guardrails with human oversight, a 30-minute limit on AI companion conversations to prevent overuse and prompt degradation, and an empathetic AI companion called Ebb that meets people where they are — every single day, not just in crisis. Because that's the shift Shelby keeps coming back to: mental health care can't only happen when things fall apart. It needs to be daily. Like going to the gym. Rebecca and Shelby also dig into how Headspace is training coaches to have the AI conversation with their clients — not avoid it — and why the coaching industry needs to stop asking "AI or human?" and start asking how AI can amplify what only humans can do. And in a moment that lands quietly but hard: Shelby shares why she's teaching her students to embrace failure — and why that might be the most human skill of all. In this episode: Why Headspace put a 30-minute limit on its AI companion — and why that's revolutionary How to build clinical guardrails that actually hold Training coaches to talk to clients about AI — not around it The danger of general-purpose chatbots being used for mental health Embracing failure as the foundation of mental health and coaching Links and resources mentioned in this episode: Headspace Training Institute Headspace Ebb - Headspace's Empathetic AI Companion Headspace Coaching Shelby Garay LinkedIn Shelby Garay Coaching & Consulting Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
Human. AI. And Something Neither Can Do Alone | with Jonathan Kirschner 15.05.2026 25minWhat if the most powerful coaching relationship in the future involves three parties — a human coach, an AI, and the space between them that neither could create alone? Jonathan Kirschner has been thinking about this longer than most. He built AIIR (Assessment, Insight, Implementation, Reinforcement) in 2009 to bring behavioral science and structure to what Harvard Business Review called "the Wild West of executive coaching." Now, nearly two decades in, he's at the frontier again — this time asking how AI and human coaching can combine into something genuinely greater than either. His answer: Aeron, AIIR's AI digital coach assistant. Meridian, their AI-powered assessment debriefer. And a firm belief that 1+1=3 — but only if you're intentional about it. Because there's a trap. Coaches who delegate cognitive work to AI and pocket only the time savings? Jonathan's hypothesis is blunt: we'll get dumber. The edge isn't in the tools. It's in what you grow into when the tools take the heavy lifting. Rebecca, your host, and Jonathan also dig into agentic AI as the real breakthrough for sustaining behavioral change, the uncanny valley of AI persona design (and why naming your AI is harder than it sounds), and why the number one challenge for leaders right now isn't strategy — it's finding clarity when the ground won't stop moving. He closes with a grounding practice that requires zero technology and zero budget. Just breath. In this episode: The 1+1=3 case for human-AI coaching collaboration Why efficiency without depth is a slow kind of atrophy Agentic AI and the future of long-term behavior change Leading through constant uncertainty — and staying grounded The uncanny valley, AI personas, and the politics of naming Links and resources mentioned in this episode: aiirconsulting.com aiiranalytics.com Find out more: https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/ -
Come Stand With Us at The Edge 14.05.2026 5minCoaching is changing. AI is here. And nobody has all the answers yet. The Edge of Human & AI is the podcast for coaches, leaders, and thinkers who want to go deeper than the hype — into the real questions about what it means to be human in an age of intelligent machines. Bold conversations. Uncomfortable edges. No easy answers. Welcome to the Edge. https://vivalacoaching.com/vivapodcast/
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