AP Taylor Swift

AP Taylor Swift

AP Taylor Swift Podcast
Pays États-Unis
Langue EN
Épisodes 172
Dernier 22.07.2026

AP Taylor Swift Podcast is a show for Swifties who love to overanalyze lyrics. Hosts Maansi Dommeti, Jenn Holcomb, and Jodi Innerfield delve into Taylor Swift’s music to uncover literary devices, themes, and inspirations. From Shakespeare to feminist theory, they explore the academic side of her songwriting. New episodes are released weekly.

Épisodes

  • Looking at Taylor Swift’s Music Through a Feminist Lens | AP Taylor Swift 22.07.2026 54min
    “Why you gotta be so mean?” In this week’s episode of AP Taylor Swift, we put “Mean” (Speak Now), “nothing new” (Red, Taylor’s Version), and “mirrorball” (folklore) under the lens of feminist literary theory. We talk about the male gaze, the ingenue, gendered violence imagery, the punishment of “unlikeable” women, and why a song written over a decade ago can still feel like it was written yesterday.   Two ways to get more of AP Taylor Swift: Substack: free subscribers get episode updates. Paid subscribers get After School: bonus episodes, our full written archive, and a vote in what we cover next. Subscribe: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe First 50 people to grab a Substack After School annual plan get 40% off: aptaylorswift.substack.com/wishlistmemberdiscount Apple Podcasts: paid subscribers get ad-free episodes, early episode access, and bonus episodes.   Mentioned in this episode Middlemarch, George Eliot Unlikeable Female Characters: The Women Pop Culture Wants You to Hate, Anna Bogutskaya The Robber Bride, Margaret Atwood Mean Girls (2004) Grease (1978) It’s a Man’s (Celluloid) World, Center for the Study of Women in Television & Film, San Diego State University   Episode Highlights [00:23] Welcome to the Show & Tell — Women’s History Month and a primer on feminist literary theory [04:59] “Mean” (Speak Now) — gendered weapon imagery and “you, with your words like knives and swords” [20:37] “nothing new” (Red, Taylor’s Version) — false empowerment and “girls go out and have your fun” [37:32] “mirrorball” (folklore) — adapting yourself for others’ approval Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm (code: APTS30) → tinyurl.com/aptslibro   Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • “Cruel Summer” Meaning & Lyrics Explained | AP Taylor Swift 15.07.2026 47min
    "I don't want to keep secrets just to keep you" This week on AP Taylor Swift, we're going line-by-line through Taylor Swift's "Cruel Summer" (Lover, 2019). This episode turns into a deep dive into fever dreams, Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, attachment theory, and the surprising twist that the real red flag in this song might be Taylor herself. Two ways to get more of AP Taylor Swift:  Substack: free subscribers get episode updates. Paid subscribers get After School: bonus episodes, our full written archive, and a vote in what we cover next.  Subscribe: http://aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe First 50 people to grab a Substack After School annual plan get 40% off: https://aptaylorswift.substack.com/wishlistmemberdiscount  Apple Podcasts: paid subscribers get ad-free episodes, early episode access, and bonus episodes Mentioned in this episode: The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald Romeo and Juliet A Midsummer Night's Dream  Attached   ***   Episode Highlights:  [04:02] How we do a deep dive  [06:48] “Fever dream high in the quiet of the night” [11:34] “Devils roll the dice, angels roll their eyes” [13:20] “It’s blue, the feeling I’ve got” [19:20] “Hang your head low in the glow of the vending machine” [25:10] “Cut the headlights, summer’s a knife” [29:47] “I’m drunk in the back of the car”  [34:15] “He looks up grinning like a devil” [40:08] Purpose of the song    Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • Why Summer Hits Different in Taylor Swift Lyrics | AP Taylor Swift 08.07.2026 40min
    "Now the sun burns my heart and the sand hurts my feelings" This is a re-air of one of our favorite episodes. We’re  looking at the literary symbolism of summer — freedom, danger, nostalgia, and everything in between. Jenn breaks down "Cruel Summer" (Lover, 2019), Jodi covers "August" (folklore, 2020), and Maansi digs into "hits different" (Midnights, 2023). Along the way we bring in The Great Gatsby, A Midsummer Night's Dream, and more to unpack why summer shows up in literature as both a season of freedom and a season that can cut you to the bone. Two ways to get more of AP Taylor Swift:  Substack: free subscribers get episode updates. Paid subscribers get After School: bonus episodes, our full written archive, and a vote in what we cover next.  Subscribe: http://aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe First 50 people to grab a Substack After School annual plan get 40% off: https://aptaylorswift.substack.com/wishlistmemberdiscount  Apple Podcasts: paid subscribers get ad-free episodes, early episode access, and bonus episodes Mentioned in this episode: The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald A Room with a View, E.M. Forster A Midsummer Night's Dream, William Shakespeare My Ántonia, Willa Cather A Wrinkle in Time, Madeleine L'Engle What Happened to Goodbye, Sarah Dessen "White Houses", Vanessa Carlton   Episode Highlights: [02:30] Topic introduction — Summer in literature [09:32] "Cruel Summer" (Lover, 2019) [20:05] "August" (folklore, 2020) [34:05] "hits different" (Midnights, 2023)   Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.  
  • Celebrating Taylor Swift’s Wedding Day, from Love Story to Paper Rings to Wi$h Li$t: How Taylor Swift Writes About Weddings, Marriage | AP Taylor Swift Bonus Episode 03.07.2026 46min
    "I like shiny things, but I'd marry you with paper rings." To celebrate Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding, we each picked a song from Taylor's discography that captures a different perspective on marriage:  the fairy tale proposal of "Love Story" (Fearless, 2008), the anti-materialist love declaration in "Paper Rings" (Lover, 2019), and the suburban married-life contentment of "Wi$h Li$t" (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025).  Two ways to get more of AP Taylor Swift: Substack: free subscribers get episode updates. Paid subscribers get After School: bonus episodes, our full written archive, and a vote in what we cover next. Subscribe: http://aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe First 50 people to grab a Substack After School annual plan get 40% off: https://aptaylorswift.substack.com/wishlistmemberdiscount Apple Podcasts: paid subscribers get ad-free episodes, early episode access, and bonus episodes  Mentioned in this episode: E32: Love Story Song Analysis De Beers Diamond Marketing Campaign History Romeo and Juliet, William Shakespeare *** Episode Highlights: [00:00] Congratulations to the happy couple! [06:52] "Love Story" — the fairy tale proposal [17:09] "Paper Rings" — I don't need the shiny things  [32:35] "Wishlist" — boss up, settle down  [46:00] The songs we didn't pick (and why) [48:44] What was their first dance? Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • “Willow” Song Analysis: Witchcraft, Mythology, and Power Dynamics | AP Taylor Swift E137 01.07.2026 1h 5min
    “Life was a willow and it bent right to your wind”  This week, we finally try to find the actual meaning behind Taylor Swift's "willow" (evermore, 2020), starting with the witchy mythology behind the title (hello, Hecate, Greek goddess of magic and the underworld) and tracing a real power dynamic underneath it.  Two ways to get more of AP Taylor Swift: Substack: free subscribers get episode updates. Paid subscribers get After School: bonus episodes, our full written archive, and a vote in what we cover next. Subscribe: http://aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe First 50 people to grab a Substack After School annual plan get 40% off: https://aptaylorswift.substack.com/wishlistmemberdiscount Apple Podcasts: paid subscribers get ad-free episodes, early episode access, and bonus episodes Mentioned in this episode: "willow", evermore (2020) “The Odyssey” Deep Dive (E136)  Aesthetic Theory (E29) Witches (E60) Hecate, Greek goddess of magic and the underworld Harry Potter and the Whomping Willow Pocahontas and Grandmother Willow "WAP", Cardi B How I Met Your Mother Episode Highlights: [00:00] Intro — continuing last week's Odyssey deep dive into "willow"  [01:59] The title: willow mythology, Hecate, and witchy vibes  [05:26] “I'm like the water when your ship rolled in that night” [17:07] “Lost in your current like a priceless wine” [28:55] “Life was a willow and it bent right to your wind” [42:49] “I come back stronger than a 90s trend” [59:04] The purpose of the song  Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • "I Don’t Wanna Live Forever": How Taylor Swift’s Songs Tell the Story of the Odyssey 24.06.2026 57min
    “In silent screams and wildest dreams, I never dreamed of this. This love is good. This love is bad. This love is alive back from the dead.” This week we’re setting sail on one of history’s greatest epics, Homer’s The Odyssey, and asking a very important question... did Taylor Swift write it? (We’re mostly joking. Mostly.) In this Show & Tell episode, we each make the case for a Taylor Swift song that illuminates a different facet of the Odyssey, from Penelope’s 20-year vigil to Odysseus weeping on a gorgeous island, to the sirens, the wine-dark sea, and a very significant scar. Along the way, the hosts dig into questions of translation and interpretation — particularly the significance of Emily Wilson’s landmark female translation of the text — discuss the role of Athena in the story of the epic, and geek out about the archery contest that shows up in both the Odyssey and two Indian epics. Plus: the upcoming Christopher Nolan adaptation, the musical Epic by Jorge Rivera, Madeline Miller’s Circe, and why All Too Well (10 Minute Version) might just be Taylor’s own Odyssey.   Two ways to get more of AP Taylor Swift: Substack: free subscribers get episode updates. Paid subscribers get After School: bonus episodes, our full written archive, and a vote in what we cover next. Subscribe: http://aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe First 50 people to grab a Substack After School annual plan get 40% off: https://aptaylorswift.substack.com/wishlistmemberdiscount Apple Podcasts: paid subscribers get ad-free episodes, early episode access, and bonus episodes   Songs Discussed in This Episode: This Love — Taylor Swift (1989, 2014) | Written by Taylor Swift and Nathan Chapman I Don’t Want to Live Forever — Taylor Swift & Zayn (Fifty Shades Darker soundtrack, 2017) | Written by Taylor Swift, Jack Antonoff, and Sam Dew Willow — Taylor Swift (evermore, 2020) | Written by Taylor Swift and Aaron Dessner   Honorable Mentions: Long Story Short (evermore) — previously discussed in our Greek Mythology episode (E67) Breathe (Fearless) Treacherous (Red) The Great War (Midnights) The Story of Us (Speak Now) High Infidelity (Midnights) Castle’s Crumbling (feat. Hayley Williams, Speak Now (Taylor’s Version)) Dear Reader (Midnights) State of Grace (Red) Gold Rush (evermore)   Mentioned in This Episode: The Odyssey, Homer (trans. Emily Wilson) The Odyssey, Homer (trans. Robert Fagles) Circe, Madeline Miller The Song of Achilles, Madeline Miller The Penelopiad, Margaret Atwood Epic: The Musical, Jorge Rivera-Herrans Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey (upcoming film) All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (Taylor’s Version) — mentioned as a potential “Taylor’s Odyssey” Ulysses, James Joyce (briefly mentioned)   Episode Highlights: [~00:01] Welcome and why the Odyssey, why now [~10:45] Maansi’s pick: This Love as Penelope’s story — the weaving scheme, the suitors, and letting go [~24:00] Jenn’s pick: I Don’t Want to Live Forever as Odysseus refusing immortality on Calypso’s island [~38:27] Jodi’s pick: Willow — ships, the wine-dark sea, Charybdis, the sirens, and the bait-and-switch of Odysseus’ return [~01:00:19] Honorable mentions: Breathe, Treacherous, The Great War, The Story of Us, High Infidelity, Castle’s Crumbling, Dear Reader, State of Grace, Gold Rush Follow AP Taylor Swift Podcast on Social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro   Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com   Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals — krownedkrystals.com | Use code APTS at checkout for 10% off!   Libro.fm — Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here: tinyurl.com/aptslibro   This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music prod
  • “Cold As You” Song Meaning: Taylor Swift's Debut Deep Cut | AP Taylor Swift 17.06.2026 49min
    "A mess of a dreamer with the nerve to adore you." This week we're deep diving "Cold As You" from Taylor Swift's self-titled debut album (2006) — and it's a heavy one. What reads on the surface as a teen heartbreak song turns out to be a meditation on indifference, power imbalance, and the particular kind of scar that forms not from cruelty, but from being simply not cared about.  Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics!  Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com Mentioned in this episode: "Cold As You," Taylor Swift (2006) "Exile" (feat. Bon Iver), folklore (2020) "Teardrops on My Guitar," Taylor Swift (2006) "Honey," The Life of a Showgirl (2025) "Look What You Made Me Do," reputation (2017) Kelly Clarkson, "Walk Away" (2004) Banksy, Girl with Balloon Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, J.K. Rowling Episode Highlights:[02:07] "When you take, you take the very best of me"  [11:06] "What a shame, what a rainy ending given to a perfect day"  [16:42] "You put up walls and paint them all a shade of gray"  [29:00] Bridge: "You never did give a damn thing, honey, but I cried, cried for you" [35:43] "Every smile you fake is so condescending — counting all the scars you've made" [41:59] Purpose: what this song is really about    Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • Why Mr. Perfectly Fine Spent 13 Years in the Vault (Preview) | AP Taylor Swift After School 15.06.2026 16min
    "How's your heart after breaking mine?" This is a preview of our paid After School episode,  a continuation of our "Fearless" album deep dive.  We go through every Platinum Edition bonus track and Fearless (Taylor's Version) vault track and ask the only question that matters: why didn't these make the original 13? We argue "Mr. Perfectly Fine" was too pointed for a 19-year-old still being marketed as "sweet, neat, and age-appropriate," that "Superstar" was the PR-safe version of the same heartbreak, and that the "Forever & Always" piano version is the stages of grief in song form.  Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com Mentioned in this episode: Luna Halo’s original “Untouchable” (2007) Valentine’s Day (2010) Hacks (HBO Max) American Fantasy by Emma Straub Ep 98: Unreliable Narrators (Mr. Perfectly Fine) Extra Credit essay on Forever Winter and the stages of grief   Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • "You Drew Stars Around My Scars" - Taylor Swift's Scars as Symbols in Cold As You, Cardigan & CANCELLED! 10.06.2026 37min
    "You drew stars around my scars, but now I'm bleeding." This week, we're doing a Show & Tell episode on one of Taylor's most recurring literary devices: scars. From the ice-cold wounds of “Cold As You” from her debut album to the wistful “cardigan” of folklore and the Kingpin-Taylor energy of “CANCELLED!” from The Life of a Showgirl, we trace how Taylor's use of scars has evolved from pure pain to reclaimed power. We talk Odysseus, Harry Potter, Death Eaters (yes, really), shattering glass ceilings, and what it means to turn a mark of suffering into a VIP passport. Join us as we explore what scars say about heroes, villains, and the very specific experience of being a woman in your 30s who has finally decided the wounds were worth it. Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com Songs Discussed in This Episode: Cold As You — Taylor Swift (Taylor Swift, 2006) — written by Taylor Swift & Liz Rose Cardigan — Taylor Swift (folklore, 2020) — written by Taylor Swift & Aaron Dessner CANCELLED! — Taylor Swift (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025) — written by Max Martin, Shellback & Taylor Swift Referenced in This Episode: Hamlet, William Shakespeare Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, J.K. Rowling The Odyssey, Homer The Mufasa (2024 film) Episode Highlights: [00:03] Intro: Welcome to the Show & Tell on Scars — not the Lion King villain (but kind of) [07:17] Cold As You (debut, 2006): Ice burns, emotional wounds, and counting scars vs. counting stars [14:20] Cardigan (folklore, 2020): "You drew stars around my scars, but now I'm bleeding" [25:00] CANCELLED! (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025): Matching scars as passport to the underworld Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals — krownedkrystals.com, use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm — Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here: tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • Taylor Swift's "Anti-Hero" Meaning & Lyrics Explained: Hamlet, Beauty and the Beast & More | AP Taylor Swift 03.06.2026 1h 14min
    "It’s me, hi, I’m the problem, it’s me.” This week, we (finally) go line-by-line through what might be Taylor Swift's most psychologically dense song: “Anti-Hero” from Midnights (2022). From the Hamlet-coded antihero definition, to the “Beauty and the Beast” reference lurking in "tale as old as time," to ghosts and Freud, this song keeps delivering new angles. We each came to the song with our own anxieties, and we leave with three potentially different purposes of this high-anxiety, deeply revealing song. Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe.  After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com Mentioned in this episode: Hamlet, William Shakespeare Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll Beauty and the Beast (Disney) Dexter (Showtime) Younger (Paramount+) 30 Rock, "Seinfeldvision" — the "sexy baby" episode "Blank Space," 1989 (2014) The Miss Americana Documentary (Netflix) Lena Dunham's Substack 🔎 In this episode: Episode Highlights:  [01:34] “Antihero” defined [05:45] “I have this thing where I get older but just never wiser” [11:06] "All of the people I've ghosted stand there in the room"  [19:06] "Tale as old as time" [28:00] “It’s me, hi, I’m the problem it’s me” [38:00] "Sometimes I feel like everybody is a sexy baby and I'm a monster on the hill" [45:00] “Pierced through the heart but never killed”  [55:06] The bridge! [1:03:00] Purpose of the song “Anti-Hero”   Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • "I’ll Stare Directly at the Sun, But Never in the Mirror": Taylor Swift's Mirror Moments from Debut to Midnights | Tied Together With a Smile, Begin Again, and Anti-Hero 27.05.2026 39min
    “Seems the only one who doesn’t see your beauty is the face in the mirror looking back at you.”This week, we’re doing a Show and Tell on one of literature’s most enduring symbols: the mirror. From Narcissus to Dorian Gray, Snow White’s magic mirror to Alice Through the Looking Glass, mirrors have long served as devices of identity, vanity, the supernatural, and the soul, and Taylor Swift is no stranger to the motif. We trace mirrors across three songs: Tied Together with a Smile (Taylor Swift, 2006), Begin Again (Red, 2012), and Anti-Hero (Midnights, 2022). Along the way, we explore distorted self-perception and the inner child, the mirror as a post-breakup identity reset, why Taylor would rather stare directly at the sun than face her own reflection, and what social media has to do with all of it. Plus: Dorian Gray, Narcissus, vampires without souls, the Bloody Mary game, and an accidental Justin Timberlake shout-out. Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics!   Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com   Mentioned in this episode: The Picture of Dorian Gray, Oscar Wilde Hamlet, William Shakespeare Alice Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll Reflection — Mahesh Dattani (Indian play) Reflection — Mulan (1998 film) Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film) Greek Mythology: Narcissus Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone (Mirror of Erised), J.K. Rowling Tied Together with a Smile — Taylor Swift (2006) Begin Again — Taylor Swift, Red (2012) Anti-Hero — Taylor Swift, Midnights (2022)   Episode Highlights: [01:13] Mirrors in literature and the arts: identity, vanity, and the soul [09:00] Song 1: Tied Together with a Smile — the fractured self and distorted physical perception [23:52] Song 2: Begin Again — “Took a deep breath in the mirror” [34:11] Song 3: Anti-Hero — “I’ll stare directly at the sun, but never in the mirror”   Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro   Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com   Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals — krownedkrystals.com — use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm — Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here: tinyurl.com/aptslibro   This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z
  • Taylor Swift's "Our Song" | Meaning & Lyrical Analysis | "Taylor Swift" Debut (2006) 20.05.2026 51min
    “I was ridin’ shotgun with my hair undone,” and the rest is history. This week, we do a full line-by-line deep dive into a classic, “Our Song” (Taylor Swift, 2006). Join us as we discuss the self-referential recursion (she wrote a song about their song, and that song is their song) and the sounds and silences Taylor chose to define a teenage romance. This is Taylor before anyone believed in her, holding the pen, writing herself into her debut album. For more on "Our Song" in the context of Taylor's full debut album, become a paid subscriber at aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe — we go deep on the album in our After School series. 📩 Want more? Subscribe to our Substack for free to read our Extra Credit essays: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. For more on "Our Song" in the context of Taylor's full debut album, become a paid subscriber— we go deep on the album in our After School series and give you exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! 🎧 Listen to APTS on all platforms: Apple Podcasts Spotify Podbean   Mentioned in this episode:  “Replay,” Zendaya “Replay,” Iyaz “Your Song,” Elton John Inception, 2010 Mean Girls, 2004 “God is a DJ,” Pink American Beauty, 1999 Inferno, Dante Alighieri The Canterbury Tales, Geoffrey Chaucer Harry Potter, JK Rowling ***   Episode Highlights [03:40] A song about a song [11:02] "Baby" - a term of endearment [22:55] The "Replay" Era [30:29] A very short, very dramatic bridge [37:01] She is the writer   📲 Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social!  TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree →linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm →  tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com  Featured in Axios Indianapolis. #TaylorSwift #OurSong #TaylorSwiftLyrics #LiteraryAnalysis #SwiftieTok #TaylorSwiftDeepDive Affiliate Codes:  Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off!  Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro   This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • Taylor Swift's Fearless Album | Song-by-Song Lyrical Analysis | After School Paid Preview 18.05.2026 15min
    “It's the first kiss, it's flawless, really something, it's fearless.” Over on our paid feed on Substack, we’'re in our Fearless era (literally), diving deep into Taylor's second album track by track for our After School paid subscribers. We go through all 13 original tracks,  from the sparkly country-pop opening of "Fearless" to the quietly defiant closer "Change,” examining what each song adds to the album, what literary and emotional threads connect them, and how this era set the template Taylor would spend the next eras of her career perfecting. Along the way, we track the evolution of Taylor's fearlessness from a teenager writing on tour buses to the artist who re-recorded her masters and looked the whole industry dead in the eye. Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe.  After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com This episode is exclusively for our paid subscribers. Thank you for supporting AP Taylor Swift! Mentioned in this episode: Album context, album art, and the “Fearless” era’s place in Taylor’s discography Track 1: “Fearless”, previously covered in Episode 88: Weather Songs Track 2: “Fifteen”, previously covered in Episode 124: Time & Episode 125: Deep Dive Track 3: “Love Story”, previously covered in Episode 31: Shakespeare & Episode 32 Deep Dive Track 4: “Hey Stephen”, previously covered in Episode 1 “Songs that Made us Swifties” Track 5: “White Horse”, previously covered in Episode 33: Animal Studies and Episode 110: High School Musical Track 6: “You Belong With Me”, previously covered in Episode 98: Unreliable Narrators Track 7: “Breathe” ft. Colbie Caillat Track 8: “Tell Me Why”  Track 9: “You’re Not Sorry” Track 10: “The Way I Loved You”, previously covered in Episode 52 Psychoanalytic Theory & Episode 53 Deep Dive Track 11: “Forever & Always” Track 12: “The Best Day”, previously covered in Episode 81: Female Artists Track 13: “Change”, previously covered in Episode 110: High School Musical The purpose of the album as a whole: what Fearless was trying to do when it came out in 2008, and what it means now looking back across the full discography Episode Highlights: [00:00] Welcome to After School — Fearless era begins  [01:11] Fearless as a sophomore album: branding, stakes, and proving it wasn't a fluke  [06:46] Why "Fearless" and not "Love Story": the title as identity [09:00] The album's critical reception and Billboard dominance  [12:14] The Kanye VMAs moment and what it meant for the era  [29:43] Track 1 — "Fearless": dancing in the rain, connective tissue to debut [01:35:44] Track 13 — "Change": ending on a note of inevitability  [01:43:31] What the album is actually about: manifesting fearlessness  [01:46:01] The lesson from Fearless: just do the thing, even badly [01:49:27] Taylor's Version and why she started with Fearless   Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • Alliteration in Taylor Swift's Music | "Our Song," "Call It What You Want" & More 13.05.2026 36min
    “I’ll be your father figure.” This week, we’re diving deep into one of Taylor Swift’s most underrated literary tools: alliteration. From the phonetic cadence of a teenage Taylor on Debut to the silky-smooth flow of reputation’s Call It What You Want, to the hard-hitting, power-packed punch of Father Figure from The Life of a Showgirl, we trace how Taylor uses the repetition of consonant sounds to create rhythm, evoke emotion, and tell a story. Whether she’s channeling JFK-level emphasis or crafting an earworm you can hit the notes on without music, alliteration is a tool Taylor reaches for selectively and with purpose. Join Maansi, Jennifer, and Jodi as they break down soft sounds, staccato slams, and everything in between.   Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics!   Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com   Mentioned in this episode: “Our Song” – Taylor Swift (Debut, 2006) “Call It What You Want” – Taylor Swift (Reputation, 2017) “Father Figure” – Taylor Swift ft. George Michael interpolation (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025) “Pied Beauty” – Gerard Manley Hopkins “The Raven” – Edgar Allan Poe JFK Inaugural Address – John F. Kennedy (1961) Grammarly: What Is Alliteration?   Episode Highlights: [01:32] Defining alliteration: Initial rhymes, brand names, and types (symmetrical, unvoiced) [07:04] “Our Song” (Debut, 2006): Slamming screen doors and the phonetic cadence of baby Taylor [14:43] “Call It What You Want” (Reputation, 2017): Soft sounds, effortless love, and the R&B-adjacent flow [22:19] “Father Figure” (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025): Hard consonants, hard power, and the father figure persona   Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro   Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com   Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals – krownedkrystals.com — use code APTS at checkout for 10% off!   Libro.fm – Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here: tinyurl.com/aptslibro   This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z
  • Taylor Swift's "Elizabeth Taylor" Meaning & Lyrics Explained | The Life of a Showgirl (2025) 06.05.2026 1h 2min
    "What could you possibly get for the girl who has everything and nothing all at once?" What happens when you reach a level of fame so singular that there's almost no one left who can truly understand your life? That's the question at the heart of "Elizabeth Taylor" (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025), and it's why Taylor Swift had to go all the way back to Hollywood's golden age to find her patron saint. This week, we go line by line through one of the standout tracks from “The Life of a Showgirl”, unpacking the Portofino references, the white diamonds, and why the bridge answers the song's central question in the most unexpected way. Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com Mentioned in this episode: Elizabeth Taylor, Wikipedia "Elizabeth Taylor," The Life of a Showgirl (2025) Portofino, Italy Hôtel Plaza Athénée, Paris Musso & Frank Grill, Hollywood Elizabeth Taylor's White Diamonds perfume How I Write podcast, Ward Farnsworth interview Episode Highlights: [00:00] Intro to "Elizabeth Taylor" [03:00] Who was Elizabeth Taylor? The Vince Canby quote that sets up everything [04:30] "Do you think it's forever?"  [13:00] "All the right guys promised they'd stay"  [17:00] "Been number one, but I never had two" [30:00] "Be my NY when Hollywood hates me"  [36:45]  "The girl who has everything and nothing all at once" [40:00] “I would trade the Cartier for someone to trust (just kidding)" [45:00] “Yhey say I'm bad news, I just say thanks" [52:00] The bridge: White Diamonds, lovers, and what's actually forever [57:45] Purpose round: Elizabeth Taylor as patron saint, mentor, and mirror Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • Luxury & Status in Taylor Swift's Music | "Bejeweled," "Elizabeth Taylor" & More | Literary Analysis 29.04.2026 35min
    “Best believe I’m still bejeweled” and diving into an incredibly rich discussion this week! In this week's show and tell episode, we’re examining the age-old literary theme of luxury in Taylor Swift's music, through the songs “I Bet You Think About Me” (Red Taylor’s Version, 2021), “Bejeweled” (Midnights, 2022), and “Elizabeth Taylor” (Life of a Showgirl, 2025). Join us as we dive into how the meaning and significance of luxury changes through each of these songs that span across Taylor’s discography, and how luxury can be used to comment on social status, identity, and emotional depth. Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com    Mentioned in this episode:  The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald Jane Austen The Picture of Dorian Gray, Oscar Wild   *** Episode Highlights [00:00] Introduction to luxury as a theme in literature and music [03:00] “Bet You Think About Me” - the contrast in social classes [10:50] “Bejeweled”- precious jewels and self-worth [20:36] The luxurious, lonely life of “Elizabeth Taylor” [34:31] Conclusion: The Multifaceted Nature of Luxury in Taylor's Music Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social!  TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree →linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm →  tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com  Affiliate Codes:  Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off!  Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.  
  • Taylor Swift's Debut Album | Track-by-Track Lyrical Analysis, Part 2 | After School Paid Preview 27.04.2026 8min
    This week, we are continuing our full album deep dive series for our paid subscribers, and finishing up our analysis of Taylor Swift's self-titled debut (2006). In this preview, we dig into the second half of this album where we start to really get a sense of who Taylor Swift was and the budding talent of the Taylor Swift we know today!  Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com   🔒 Subscribe on Substack to hear the full episode, including: Track 8: “Stay Beautiful” (Written by Taylor Swift and Liz Rose; produced by Nathan Chapman) Track 9: “Should've Said No” (Written by Taylor Swift; produced by Nathan Chapman) Track 10: “Mary's Song (Oh My My My)” (Written by Taylor Swift, Liz Rose, and Brian Maher; produced by Nathan Chapman) Track 11: “Our Song” (Written by Taylor Swift; produced by Nathan Chapman) Unreleased Vault Song: “I’d Lie” (Written by Taylor Swift; produced by Nathan Chapman) Album Purpose: All three of us hosts go around to discuss what we think the overall purpose of Taylor Swift’s debut album was, how she accomplished it, and how this album gives us a peak into the mind of the pop superstar to come.   Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social!TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwiftInstagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwiftYouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwiftLink Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswiftBookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/aptsLibro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibroContact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes:Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off!Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z
  • Taylor Swift's "Opalite" Meaning & Lyrics Explained | The Life of a Showgirl (2025) 22.04.2026 1h 11min
    "You had to make your own sunshine, but now the sky is opalite." This week we’re deep diving the second single from “The Life of a Showgirl,”  Opalite! We’ll explore why Taylor chose “opalite” over “opal,” what it means to create your own luck instead of waiting for it, and the song’s shift from being stuck in a cycle to finding resilience. Along the way, we debate who’s really speaking—is Mama Swift talking the whole time?—trace the song’s self-referential connections to “Daylight,” “Fearless,” “right where you left me,” and more, and unpack how this bubblegum pop track is actually a deeply philosophical song about agency, community, and paying it forward. Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com    Mentioned in this episode:  Right Where You Left Me - Deep Dive The Fate of Ophelia - Deep Dive Metaphors Show & Tell  Hamlet, William Shakespeare Self-Reliance, Ralph Waldo Emerson   Episode Highlights:  [01:57] What is “Opalite”? [08:06] “I had a bad habit…” [16:14] “Life is a song, it ends when it ends” [20:59] “Dancing through the lightning strikes” [28:38] “Sleepless in the onyx night” [33:23] “You finally left the table” [46:51] “All of the foes, and all of the friends” [50:21] “This is just a temporary speed bump” [59:48] “Oh my lord never met no one like you before” [01:01:11] The Purpose: “But now the sky is Opalite” Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
  • Transcendentalism in Taylor Swift's Music |"The Lakes," "Opalite" & More | Literary Analysis 15.04.2026 49min
    "Take me to the lakes where all the poets went to die." What's an AP class without a not-so-brief discussion about touching grass? In honor of Earth Day, we're exploring Transcendentalism — the 19th-century movement that said the divine lives in nature, not in dusty pews — and finding it everywhere in Taylor Swift's music. Jenn returns to "the lakes" (folklore, 2020) and pairs it with Ralph Waldo Emerson's foundational essay Nature to explore how Taylor's retreat from society mirrors the transcendentalist search for truth in the natural world. Maansi takes on "Bigger Than the Whole Sky" (Midnights, 2022), tracing its imagery and cosmic grief through themes of universal divinity and interconnectedness. And Jodi brings "Opalite" (The Life of a Showgirl, 2025) to pose a question: is this song an acceptance of transcendentalism — or a rejection of it? Dust off your Emerson, lace up your hiking boots, and get ready to go touch grass with us. Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com Discover all our book recs and episode guides: https://swift-recs-explorer.lovable.app/ Mentioned in this episode: Nature, Ralph Waldo Emerson Self-Reliance, Ralph Waldo Emerson Walden, Henry David Thoreau E7: Ecocriticism — our original nature episode E8: Deep Dive - the lakes Ralph Waldo Emerson Henry David Thoreau Walt Whitman Margaret Fuller *** Episode Highlights: [00:30] Introduction to Transcendentalism  [08:29] "the lakes,” folklore [18:28] "Bigger Than the Whole Sky," Midnights [30:16] "Opalite” The Life of a Showgirl Follow AP Taylor Swift podcast on social! TikTok → tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift Instagram → instagram.com/APTaylorSwift YouTube → youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift Link Tree → linktr.ee/aptaylorswift Bookshop.org → bookshop.org/shop/apts Libro.fm → tinyurl.com/aptslibro Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals - krownedkrystals.com use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm - Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.  
  • Taylor Swift's "Fifteen" Meaning & Lyrical Analysis | Fearless (2008) 08.04.2026 1h 4min
    "Take a deep breath and you walk through the doors. It's the morning of your very first day." This week, we're going line by line through "Fifteen.” From the significance of 15 as an age that rarely gets its pop culture moment, to Abigail and the quiet power of female friendship, to the devastating simplicity of "and we both cried," we unpack why this deceptively simple song keeps hitting harder with every passing year. We dig into who the "I" and the "you" really are, debate whether that night ends on a high or a heartbreak, and explore what it means to pay it forward to a generation of girls who are still walking through their very first doors.  Subscribe for free to get episode updates or upgrade to paid to get our After School premium content: aptaylorswift.substack.com/subscribe. After School subscribers get monthly bonus episodes, exclusive content, and early access to help shape future topics! Stay up to date at aptaylorswift.com Mentioned in This Episode: Fearless, Taylor Swift (2008 album) "Beautiful Ghosts" — Taylor Swift (from Cats, 2019) "You're On Your Own, Kid" — Taylor Swift (Midnights) "All Too Well" — Taylor Swift "Seven" — Taylor Swift (folklore) "22" — Taylor Swift (Red) Inside Out (2015 film) — Pixar / core memories concept Episode Highlights: [02:42] The title: Why Taylor chose “Fifteen”  [16:23] "Feeling like there's nothing to figure out," and the count-to-10 anxiety hack [23:07] Abigail, in-groups and out-groups, and the adolescent psychology of finding your people [33:22] Second chorus debate: Does the night end on a high or a heartbreak?  [43:00] The flower metaphor, purity culture, and what "everything she had" really means in context [54:55] Getting to the purpose of “Fifteen”    Follow AP Taylor Swift Podcast on Social! tiktok.com/@APTaylorSwift instagram.com/APTaylorSwift youtube.com/@APTaylorSwift linktr.ee/aptaylorswift bookshop.org/shop/apts tinyurl.com/aptslibro   Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com   Affiliate Codes: Krowned Krystals — krownedkrystals.com — use code APTS at checkout for 10% off! Libro.fm — Looking for an audiobook? Check out our Libro.fm playlist and use code APTS30 for 30% off books found here: tinyurl.com/aptslibro This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z

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