Photography is Nothing

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  Interview with Christopher Morris 12.08.2026 2ó 5p

  Zach & Courtney interview Christopher Morris, a documentary photographer who has covered war, politics, and fashion since 1981.In this interview, Morris talks about being mistaken for a CIA agent, living with the consequences of witnessing atrocities firsthand, working to make sure his vast archive lives on, and more.Christopher Morris got his start with the Black Star agency covering conflicts in the Philippines, Panama, the Persian Gulf War, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Yemen, Iraq, and more. Largely leaving war photography behind in the early 2000s, Morris covered the Bush and Obama administrations for Time Magazine. He left Black Star in 2001 and was one of the founding members of VII Photo Agency.In recent years, Morris has photographed for fashion magazines & brands, worked as the personal photographer for Princess Charlene of Monaco, and continued to take breaking news & editorial assignments around the world.Index0:00 - Interview with Christopher Morris3:50 - TIME said stop photographing Republicans in black & white7:25 - Going through 40 years of photo archives16:47 - Chris was hired by the Princess of Monaco18:40 - Keeping your copyright 22:30 - Stephen Shore as an influence25:58 - 1981 on the New York Subway28:22 - What he learned from Susan Meiselas30:50 - Don’t stay in hotels as a documentary photographer33:09 - Taking photos behind the handler’s back in Saudi Arabia37:56 - Are photojournalists capitalizing on suffering?44:16 - Winning awards for war photography47:49 - The toll it takes on the family of a war photographer58:05 - Taking portraits & maintaining journalistic integrity1:03:14 - The influence of W. Eugene Smith’s Country Doctor1:23:22 - How does a conflict photographer get to the front lines?1:37:27 - Getting the best seat in the house without a pass1:42:04 - How Morris got to the front lines in Iraq1:47:14 - When photographing the government means you’re one of them 1:57:30 - PTSD: No one asked if he needed help2:02:18 - Israel has killed over 200 journalists in Gaza2:04:50 - Planning a visit to see the archives in personBuy, Sell or Trade with MPB:https://shorturl.at/Szqs2Find ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsAbout the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  The Photography of Christopher Morris 05.08.2026 48p

  Christopher Morris is a documentary photographer who has covered wars, politics, and fashion since 1981. In this episode, Courtney & Zach introduce Morris’s photography ahead of next week’s interview with the photographer.Christopher Morris got his start with the Black Star agency covering conflicts in the Philippines, Panama, the Persian Gulf War, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Yemen, Iraq, and more. Largely leaving war photography behind in the early 2000s, Morris covered the Bush and Obama administrations for Time Magazine. He left Black Star in 2001 and was one of the founding members of VII Photo Agency.In recent years, Morris has photographed for fashion magazines & brands, worked as the personal photographer for Princess Charlene of Monaco, and continued to take breaking news & editorial assignments around the world.Index0:31 - The Photography Christopher Morris6:36 - How Christopher Morris got started in photography10:35 - Photographing the conflict in Chechnya - 1990s18:25 - Documenting American politics in the early 2000s23:15 - Books by Christopher Morris: My America and Americans29:24 - Archiving decades of film photos32:00 - Moscow in the 1990s34:01 - Fashion photography paired with war and politics40:00 - New York City subway in 198141:31 - How Christopher Morris’s photos have influenced Zach43:25 - How do you decide to be a war photographerBuy, Sell or Trade with MPB:https://shorturl.at/Szqs2Find ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsAbout the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Interview with Kiliii Yüyan 29.07.2026 1ó 11p

  Episode 45 • Kiliii YüyanZach & Courtney interview Kiliii Yüyan, National Geographic photographer, Explorer, and speaker. Kiliii’s work focuses on indigenous communities around the world with special attention to environmental issues.Indigenous PhotographyKiliii is himself of Chinese and Nanai/Hèzhé descent and speaks often of how his own background informs his photography with Indigenous people of the world. He spends extended periods with each group of people that he photographs, building relationships and serving as an active member of the communities.Kiliii has photographed Indigenous communities and environments across the globe, such as Mongolia, Palau, and the Navajo Nation. His immersive approach is apparent in all aspects of his work, from the unusual scenes he's able to capture, to the descriptions he writes for each photograph. Kiliii is clearly well versed in the cultures he's documenting.BackstoryYüyan took up photography only in his 30's, when as a traditional kayak builder he began photographing his work. As a visual artist, photography came naturally, and he was photographing for National Geographic in just about 3 years.An award winning photographer, Killiii has also earned 3 covers for National Geographic and his work has also been featured in TIME, Vogue, and WIRED. Yüyan is a keynote speaker through Changemaker Talent with appearances at TEDx, and NatGeo Live, among others.Current WorkIn February 2026, Kiliii published a new book: Guardians of Life: Indigenous Knowledge, Indigenous Science, and Restoring the Planet. Guardians of Life features a decade of of his photos and includes contributions from two dozen Indigenous authors.Yüyan is currently working on project in the arctic, photographing Greenland sharks under the ice. He's famously known for his encounters with polar bears, sharks, and other wildlife where he captures stunning images under intense pressure.Index0:00 - Intro: Indigenous communities are the best conservationists0:52 - Introducing photographer Kiliii Yüyan3:41 - Three years to becoming a National Geographic photographer5:28 - Combining aesthetics and storytelling9:03 - Becoming a part of the community you’re photographing11:24 - How Kiliii finds the stories he tells17:44 - The business of documentary photography: grants, speaking engagements, and more32:35 - Bringing indigenous heritage to documentary photography39:50 - A natural skill for storytelling42:59 - Pushing past your discomfort to find success46:12 - New book: Guardians of Life53:22 - Indigenous conservation: Treating land as a museum vs a home 59:05 - Kiliii explains “solutions journalism”1:06:20 - Book publisher Braided River’s unique approach1:10:26 - Documentary photography is for kids, tooBuy, Sell or Trade with MPB:https://shorturl.at/Szqs2Find ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsAbout the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Kiliii Yüyan 22.07.2026 47p

  Zach & Courtney introduce you to the work of Kiliii Yüyan, National Geographic photographer. Kiliii’s work focuses on indigenous communities around the world with special attention to environmental issues.This week we talk about Kiliii’s background and some of his best known work so you’ll be familiar with his photography and approach before our next episode, an in-depth interview with Yüyan.In February 2026, Kiliii published a new book: Guardians of Life: Indigenous Knowledge, Indigenous Science, and Restoring the Planet. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Making the cover of National Geographic0:48 - Meet Kiliii Yüyan6:04 - The impartial observer is a myth8:46 - Project: People of the Whale30:05 - Project: We are Here40:42 - Guardians of Life bookBuy, Sell or Trade with MPB:https://shorturl.at/Szqs2Find ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons
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  Kids and Cameras 15.07.2026 1ó 5p

  Zach & Courtney talk about supporting their kids taking photos. Zach has always been open to letting kids use his professional cameras, even if it made him nervous at first. ICYMI, Zach & Courtney ARE married! They have 5 kids together, who have free rein with cameras whenever they ask. In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about how they work to support their kids’ creativity and individual styles without putting their own personal preferences and aesthetics onto the kids’ photography.Episode 43“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Keeping opinions to yourself.1:09 - We’re married5:23 - All 5 of our kids like to take photos (sometimes)9:05 - Letting kids use professional cameras12:32 - The kids like to use the smaller, mirrorless camera14:06 - Zach doesn’t teach photography lessons (unless asked)17:05 - How I set up cameras for kids18:31 - Take photos of whatever you think is interesting23:56 - Louisa takes headshots for the cast of her play28:42 - Kids learn from what they see me do35:05 - Helping kids feel comfortable being themselves40:31 - Zach & Courtney’s viral video: kids using Instax cameras45:01 - Courtney’s view on “high art”51:44 - Street photography photo contestBuy, Sell or Trade with MPB:https://shorturl.at/Szqs2Find ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsAbout the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  World Cup 2026 01.07.2026 1ó 2p

  Episode 42 - Zach & Courtney go through the best photos of the 2026 World Cup so far. And by “best” they mean the photos they like the most.There are a lot of great storylines that have unfolded early in the tournament and Zach & Courtney get into their favorite photos of these stories and moments.Photos include Cape Verde goalie Vozinha, watch parties around the world, Lumumba Vea, and a great photo of Ronaldo that was posted to his account without first obtaining permission from the photographer.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Your eyes see things from different angles. Duh.2:25 - How the World Cup is affecting us in the USA9:04 - Tourists experiencing American food and culture.13:42 - Soccer fans around the world watching the World Cup26:16 - Norway’s Viking-themed team photo30:20 - David Ramos photo of Messi celebrating Argentina’s 2022 World Cup win32:45 - The story of Michel Nkuka Mboladinga, aka Lumumba Vea35:06 - The World Cup photography of Kohjiro Kinno39:21 - Favorite photos of Vozinha42:58 - Ronaldo’s photo that was used without permission48:47 - Talking about copyright53:35 - How can a photographer tell it’s their photo?Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB:https://shorturl.at/Szqs2Larry Fink: Hands On / A Passionate Life of LookingGet your copy: https://amzn.to/4fWXPuNFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Larry Fink 24.06.2026 43p

  Episode 41 - Zach & Courtney have talked about Larry Fink on multiple occasions, so wanted to have an episode dedicated to him.The photography of Larry Fink was documentary in nature and full of social & class commentary. His most famous series, Social Graces, put images of Manhattan socialites of the 70s & 80s alongside images of the Sabatine family living in rural Pennsylvania. He also photographed social activism of the 60s & 70s, boxing in the 80s & 90s, the famous Vanity Fair Oscar parties in the early 2000s, and behind the scenes at fashion shows.Fink once said, “The only revolution we have is within,” which became an important quote in the McCracken/Dobson household. We talk about that in depth in this episode.After our initial talk (clip from Photography is Nothing episode 05), Zach talks through one of his favorite photo books: Larry Fink: Hands On / A Passionate Life of Looking.The book touches on every point of Fink’s career. Zach talks in depth about some of his favorite images and provides details about the stories and series they’re from.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Change the world by changing yourself1:15 - Larry Fink and the Sabatine Family5:31 - Courtney’s favorite quote from Larry Fink8:02 - Larry Fink’s self portrait is an entire universe 12:19 - How we missed meeting Larry Fink14:07 - The internal revolution manifests externally18:15 - Photo book - Larry Fink: Hands On / A Passionate Life of LookingBuy, Sell or Trade with MPB:https://shorturl.at/Szqs2Larry Fink: Hands On / A Passionate Life of LookingGet your copy: https://amzn.to/4fWXPuNFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Lourdes Grobet 17.06.2026 46p

  Episode 40 - Zach & Courtney talk about Lourdes Grobet, an amazing Mexican photographer whose best known work is her nearly 40 years of documenting lucha libre, Mexican wrestling.Grobet’s work isn’t just unique because of the subject matter. She did a mix of action, documentary, behind-the-scenes, and portraiture, all with great skill.Other series by Grobet includes Paisajes Pintados (Painted Landscapes) and Laboratorio de Teatro Campesino e Indígena (Peasant and Indigenous Theater Laboratory).“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: The true story behind Nacho Libre!0:50 - Introducing Lourdes Grobet5:54 - Paisajes Pintados (Painted Landscapes)9:24 - Laboratorio de Teatro Campesino e Indígena11:15 - Documentary photography of lucha libre14:39 - Luchador El Santo17:39 - Luchador Blue Demon20:25 - Luchadors at their day jobs23:19 - Portraits of luchadors with their families30:44 - Frey Tormenta (the inspiration for Nacho Libre)35:45 - Thoroughly documenting a subject40:06 - Assignment: find this photo of Blue DemonThe Art of Photography interview with Lourdes Grobethttps://youtu.be/rElpkvx244Y?si=9rDIJyoVyC_GVcCmFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  PaJaMa Collective 10.06.2026 48p

  Episode 39 - Zach & Courtney talk about PaJaMa collective, made up of painters & photographers Paul Cadmus, Jared French, and Margaret French. Between 1937 and the mid 1950s, they created a set of photos that feel like summer. This episode about PaJaMa is also a great way to celebrate Pride Month, as the artists are credited as being the first queer art collective on Fire Island, NY.In this episode, we look through their vast archive of images, talk about how their painting styles were reflected in their photographs, and address the importance of these photos as a historical document of a community that largely lived their lives outside of public view.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Who is PaJaMa collective?2:11 - Photos locations: Fire Island, NY and Provincetown, MA5:27 - Photography used to be mostly private12:50 - Friends of PaJaMa16:15 - Queer history as told through photography. Alice Austen18:48 - Jared French & Paul Cadmus paintings23:06 - Alfred Eisenstaedt’s V-J Day photo is SA27:52 - About Margaret Hoening French28:25 - The photography of PaJaMa collective38:30 - Stone Blossom: A Conversation Piece by Paul Cadmus39:41 - What is the historical significance of PaJaMa?44:07 - Photographer George Platt Lynes - a friend of PaJaMa46:15 - Calvalrymen Crossing A River - Jared French**CORRECTIONS**In the audio, Zach states Chess and Politics is by Jared French. This is correct.The text incorrectly credits the painting to Paul Cadmus.Also, Zach called the Alfred Eisenstaedt photo, “V-E Day” but it’s actually “V-J Day”Find ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Joel Meyerowitz - Cape Light 03.06.2026 38p

  Episode 38 - Zach & Courtney talk about photographer Joel Meyerowitz and his project Cape Light. This series, created in 1976-77 in Cape Cod, is a fantastic and nostalgic look at what summer feels like. Joel Meyerowitz is an early adapter of color photography in an era when “serious” art photographers chose black & white film. He is primarily known as a street photographer, but for this seminal series, now 50 years old, he put down the 35mm camera in favor of a massive 8x10 view camera, forcing himself to take a slower and more introspective approach. In this episode, we talk about the project, the creative choices Meyerowitz made, and the feelings inspired by the resulting images.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Carrying a 8x10 camera everywhere2:41 - Who comes to mind when thinking about summer photography?3:48 - A quick background on Joel Meyerowitz6:36 - How Robert Frank influenced Joel Meyerowitz9:14 - Experimenting with larger cameras to capture more detail9:48 - Cape Light is about capturing the feel of the place12:37 - Lightning strike from the porch15:25 - Laundry blowing in the breeze18:03 - Book cover photo19:28 - Master printer Joanne Mulberg23:52 - The Feelings evoked from Cape Light33:20 - How Cape Light was influential35:51 - Thumbnail previews of all 95 Cape Light photos37:38 - Who else should we talk about for summer photos?Find ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Indy 500 2026 29.05.2026 29p

  Episode 37 - Zach & Courtney head to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway for their annual trek to the famed Indianapolis 500 Mile Race, aka the Indy 500. This episode is a visual experience! You have to see the sights through video clips and photos.This is Neve’s first Indy 500, so we were all very excited to show her what it’s like, especially her older siblings Henry and Louisa, who are practically race pros by now.In this episode we walk and talk and take you into the crowds so you can get a firsthand look at the experience. And as usual, Zach documents the day, so his photos are throughout the episode, too.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Zach & Courtney hide their beers. Sorta.0:45 - Walking with the crowds to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway8:36 - Walking into the IMS and finding our seats in Turn One11:27 - Exploring the infield before the Indy 500 starts14:00 - We go on the track at the speedway16:59 - Gasoline Alley and the Pagoda24:10 - Pre-race ceremonies at the Indy 50026:41 - The closest finish EVER at the Indy 500!27:56 - Thoughts on the race and walking back to the carFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Ruedi Hofmann - Photographer & Master Printer 20.05.2026 1ó 21p

  Episode 36 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk with Ruedi Hofmann, photographer and master printer for Richard Avedon's In the American West.Ruedi Hofmann has worked as a professional photographer since the 1980s with regular clients like Giorgio Armani. But before that, Hofmann worked for 5 years with Richard Avedon as Studio Manager, First Assistant on the In The American West series, and finally as Master Printer for the artist’s most famous project.In this interview, Hofmann tells us stories about working with Avedon, how he reluctantly agreed to print In The American West, and his own career in fashion & portraiture.For his work as Master Printer, Hofmann received from Avedon one edition of each photo he printed, making him owner of one of only three complete sets of In the American West.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Introducing Ruedi Hofmann - photographer and master printer1:39 - How Ruedi got started in photography.4:21 - What it was like working in Richard Avedon’s studio.15:19 - How Avedon chose Hofmann to print his photos.22:17 - Ruedi’s terms for staying on to the end of In The American West.25:49 - Leveraging the Avedon name for products & services.27:09 - Working your way up at Avedon’s studio.28:53 - The importance of the master printer’s role in making a photograph.31:06 - Ruedi tells us Avedon’s reaction to the first ~100 prints.34:21 - Ruedi Hofmann’s career as a professional photographer.43:59 - Richard Avedon and Laura Wilson worked together to find subjects.47:43 - What it was like for Avedon’s Western subjects.55:38 - The new Avedon documentary declined Ruedi’s participation.58:14 - A photography project is bigger than just the photographer.1:09:27 - Ruedi’s thoughts on Avedon’s destruction of his negatives.1:15:33 - Ruedi feels a responsibility to the people he’s photographing.In this interview, we reference a video where Hofmann speaks with Richard Corman in great detail about the technical processes of printing In The American West. You can watch that here: https://www.ruedihofmann.com/avedon-west-collectionYou can learn more about Ruedi's ownership of the Avedon prints in Zach's video here: https://youtu.be/StKEn_kjc5QFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Famous Photographers' Family Photos 13.05.2026 45p

  Episode 35 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about famous photographers photographing their own families. After last week’s episode about documenting everyday life, Zach wanted to talk about some famous photographers who documented their own life, and specifically their family.Documentary photographers are known for telling stories about hard-hitting issues in the world. But some well-known photographers have very famous images that focus on their own family members or home life.Seeing how fine art, documentary, and street photographers chronicle their own family can show us how this type of work is important for any of us to do.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Courtney helps Zach gain a deeper appreciate for Sally Mann5:27 - Sabine Weiss & her husband Hugh Weiss7:04 - W. Eugene Smith & kids11:22 - Christopher Anderson w/ Atlas & Marion13:31 - Inge Morath & Arthur Miller15:39 - William Eggleston & his kids (MAYBE)17:04 - Stephen Shore & his wife Ginger18:11 - Sally Mann & her kids24:26 - Nancy Sheung & daughter25:12 - Larry Fink & his daughter Molly with the Sabatine family27:21 - Garry Winogrand & his kids at the zoo30:00 - Lee Friedlander & his wife Maria and their kids34:17 - Following up on Documentary Photography is for Everyone36:16 - Zach feels more connected to the world when photographing it42:45 - It’s important to strike a balance between photographer & person Find ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Documentary Photography is for Everyone 06.05.2026 54p

  Episode 34 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about the importance of documenting our lives. It’s could be easy to dismiss photographing everyday life and the world around us, but it’s an important practice. We learn a lot about the past from ordinary images, maybe even more than we learn from the major events that people might consider “photo worthy.”What did people really look like and dress like? How did they interact with each other? What did people do in their daily lives? What do the places where they live and work and interact look like?Photographers who document the world are not just making a record of their family, but also providing a view of our society as a whole.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: These pictures will matter.3:12 - Barriers to entry for “documentary photography”4:39 - When Zach started documenting everyday life12:07 - We underestimate the wider value of photographing our families21:36 - We need photos of daily life to know what the past was like23:56 - William Eggleston’s photos weren’t well received at the time25:24 - How do you do documentary photography29:03 - Awesome photo of baseball player Jo Adell taken by a fan32:04 - Documentary photography brings the story to a larger audience39:16 - Just start taking photos. Don’t worry about making good ones.47:25 - The only impact we have on the world is what comes from within usFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Baseball - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken 29.04.2026 50p

  Episode 33 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about their recent trip to the ballpark and learn about a photographer from the golden age of baseball. Charles M. Conlon photographed baseball between 1904-1941, taking absolutely gorgeous photos of some of the game’s most famous names.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Photographers need to share their photos0:53 - Going to an Indianapolis Indians baseball game6:15 - Photos of being a spectator at the baseball game9:04 - One of the greatest baseball photographers: Charles M. Conlon12:05 - Photo of Ty Cobb sliding into third base17:49 - Portraits from the golden age of baseball by Charles Conlon24:25 - Conlon photographs Shoeless Joe Jackson w/ Black Betsy26:53 - Cornelius McGillicuddy aka Connie Mack28:16 - Rube Waddell31:14 - Charles Conlon focused on the people & personalities32:48 - Masking photos the old fashioned way40:07 - Charles Albert “Chief” Bender41:01 - Photographing players’ wives and children44:05 - Why Charles Conlon destroyed half of his negatives45:51 - Part of being a photographer is sharing your workFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Moab, Utah - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken 22.04.2026 51p

  Episode 32 - Zach & Courtney talk about one of their favorite trips: Moab, Utah! They visit Arches National Park, Canyonlands National Park, Dead Horse Point State Park, and more!Zach used to photograph weddings and that’s how he ended up in Moab 3 years in a row. Courtney & Henry went, too, on the second year. On this episode they discuss their highlights from the trip, which (in addition to the parks, of course) included staying at Whispering Oaks Ranch in the La Sal Mountains.Zach & Courtney talk about the trip, life lessons they learned, and the photos Zach took along the way.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Does Google own my photo now??3:19 - How we started booking weddings in Moab5:46 - Driving to Moab via Denver7:55 - Every road in Moab felt like different terrain10:18 - Some background on Arches, Canyonlands and Moab17:44 - Getting married under Double Arch in Arches National Park19:31 - Courtney & Henry visit Moab for the first time with Zach24:23 - Favorite breakfast: Jailhouse Cafe25:31 - Best fish tacos ever: Miguel’s Baja Grill27:30 - Carrying a toddler through the National Parks32:16 - It looks like you’re closer to the cliff’s edge than you are36:14 - Moab wedding number 239:26 - Visiting Canyonlands National Park42:10 - Finding the Petroglyphs46:30 - A third wedding in Moab at Whispering Oaks Ranch49:17 - A final photo at night on the La Sal MountainsFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Yes, Michigan! - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken 15.04.2026 44p

  Episode 31 - Zach & Courtney talk about a trip to Hoeft State Park located on the beautiful shores of Lake Huron in Rogers City, Michigan. They stayed in a 1929 Sears Roebuck house just 100 yards from the beach, visited 40 Mile Point Lighthouse and Rogers City Marina, and took in a super early morning sunrise.Zach & Courtney talk about the trip, life lessons they learned, and the photos Zach took along the way.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro: Adventures lead to personal growth0:55 - Visiting Lake Huron in Michigan2:32 - How to find an amazing cabin in Michigan10:55 - Courtney loves the Edmund Fitzgerald15:03 - All about the cabin at Hoeft State Park18:20 - Kids don’t care if the water is cold22:57 - Visiting Rogers City and the Marina24:10 - Zach’s favorite photo at the marina26:26 - Going fishing inland Michigan28:06 - Packing food for a whole trip29:30 - Why it’s important for families to have adventures31:36 - Our teen insisted on seeing the sunrise over Lake Huron33:50 - Visiting the 40 Mile Point Lighthouse40:27 - Telling a story in a photo41:10 - Taking a family photo during our adventuresFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Florida Keys Road Trip - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken 08.04.2026 39p

  Episode 30 - Zach & Courtney talk about a favorite family trip: A roadtrip through the Florida Keys! In 2018, Courtney, Zach, and (then) 4 kids, drove nearly 3,000 miles from Indianapolis, IN to Key West, FL (and back, of course).On this episode we talk about the experience, including our favorite spots, things we learned, and the photos Zach took along the way.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro - He stitched two mattresses together to make a giant bed0:49 - Going on a Florida Keys Roadtrip1:44 - Planning to escape the Midwest in winter3:44 - Racing to beat a snow storm7:03 - Driving into the Keys from Miami is supposed to be quick8:48 - Are the Florida Keys kid-friendly?10:25 - There are very few natural beaches in the Keys11:10 - Plan to stay in motels in the Florida Keys15:18 - Zach had never seen water this color15:44 - Visiting Key West as a family24:10 - Ernest Hemingway’s house in Key West25:28 - Kids are learning their own way28:12 - Easter Mass in Key West29:29 - Southernmost Point of the Continental US30:13 - Bahia Honda State Park31:03 - Marathon and Islamorada33:15 - The story behind my favorite Florida Keys photo35:15 - John Pennekamp Coral Reef State Park38:04 - We need a bigger car than a Chevy SuburbanFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  All-Time Best Basketball Photos - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken 01.04.2026 1ó 4p

  Zach & Courtney talk about Zach’s six selections for all-time best basketball photos. Plus, they take a look at the photography of Walter Iooss, Jr., who has photographed professional sports in 7 different decades!“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Intro - Zach didn’t know he once worked for Atlantic Records2:16 - What is the criteria for best basketball photos of all time?7:33 - Some of the most famous/infamous photos of basketball in Indiana9:57 - Wilt Chamberlain photographed by Paul Vathis. 1962.14:32 - 16 year-old Kareem Abdul-Jabber photographed by Richard Avedon. 1963.20:41 - The Big Three. Miami Heat. Photographed by Morry Gash. 2010.22:39 - NC State Championship. Photographed by Malcom Emmons. 1983.32:46 - Dennis Rodman photographed by Sam Forencich. 1997.35:20 - Michael Jordan game-winning shot photographed by Fernando Medina. 1998.44:57 - The basketball photography of Walter Iooss, Jr.58:30 - Kobe Bryant photographed by Walter Iooss, Jr.Find ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
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  Basketball - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken 25.03.2026 44p

  Episode 28 - Zach & Courtney take a look through Zach’s archive of basketball photography from around the state of Indiana.Indiana is of course the best state in the country for basketball. In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about their own experiences with the sport as well as go in-depth on Zach’s photos and his approach to photographing basketball.“Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index0:00 - Zach & Courtney each played one season of basketball0:56 - Getting the NBA Finals patch on the Pacers jersey3:44 - In 49 states it’s just basketball, but this is Indiana4:51 - The largest high school gyms in the country are in Indiana6:54 - What it was like in the 90’s9:58 - Zach’s basketball photography10:19 - Practicing free throws11:19 - Player intros in black & white14:19 - Photographing basketball above the rim16:50 - The crowd jeers during free throws18:58 - Why take photos from low angles20:01 - Zach is in the Indiana High School Basketball Hall of Fame 21:39 - Inspiration from a photo of Babe Ruth22:47 - Photographing basketball behind the scenes24:57 - Why photographing with a wide lens is better26:03 - Photographers photographing photographers27:02 - Photographing the scale of the games 28:29 - Basketball is THE entertainment in small towns30:38 - Trey Lyles before he played in the NBA31:26 - Zach’s favorite cheerleader photo32:32 - Courtney says the physical closeness of sports is important for boys34:21 - A detail photo from a small town gym34:50 - A look of confusion from the head coach 35:50 - The Wigwam in Anderson, Indiana37:11 - The Indianapolis Indians are approved by the Miami tribe39:24 - Photographing for the Indiana Pacers41:25 - Basketball is the good part of IndianaFind ZachWebsite: https://zachdobson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphotoThreads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphotoFind CourtneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessonsThreads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_About the PodcastPhotography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.Fair Use StatementThis document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.