Safe As Podcast
Ben Hutchinson
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Safe As Podcast offers a thrifty analysis of safety science, risk, systems, and performance research. It examines practical and cost-conscious approaches to safety in various contexts. Listeners can find additional research at SafetyInsights.Org. The show is hosted by Ben Hutchinson and features intro/outro music 'Dark Synth Wave' by ElephantGreen.
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E101: From Blame to Restorative Justice: A Just Culture Tool (HOP / Safety-II / New View) 23.09.2026 6pDo traditional approaches unintentionally blame front-line workers instead of fixing broken organisational systems?This Quickisode unpacks how an international energy company redesigned its Just Culture (JC) framework to shift focus from individual culpability to systemic weaknesses.This company found that traditional approaches relied on judgement terminology, like violation or negligence, and frequently misapplied as disciplinary tools.Their redesigned JC tried to address these limitations, including:a. decoupling the analysis from disciplineb. separating the evaluation of system conditions from HR disciplinary actionsc. neutral language by removing terms like violationd. evaluating supervisory influence and management decisions alongside worker actionsBased on this case study, they found that 90% of non-conformances stemmed from underlying system weaknesses, like from unclear procedures, resource constraints, or task complexity.The revised tool led to 55% of corrective actions being tied to system improvements, whereas disciplinary action occurred in only 5% of cases.Resources & Links:Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSupport the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E100: Dr Linda Bellamy Part 2: Fatal vs Minor hazards, SIFs & Barrier Failures 20.09.2026 21pPart 2 discussion with Dr Linda Bellamy on SIFs, fatal accidents, and barrier failures.Resources & Links:Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSupport the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E99: 25 Questions for Better Incident Investigations | Safety-II / HOP 16.09.2026 4pDo your investigations often conclude when you've identified 'human error', or a pesky person not following rules?Do you want to improve the quality and depth of your learning opportunities?One way is via local rationality: understanding why decisions & actions made sense to people at the time. It's a core feature in human factors / safety-II / and Human and Organizational Performance (HOP).This episode unpacks Louise Roe's Local Rationality Question Tool in her article presented at the Chartered Institute of Ergonomics & Human Factors (CIEHF) 2025 conference.The tool covers things like: - workload, time pressure & environmental cues; goals, assumptions & information available- training, policies & useable job aids- team dynamics & information flow- Expectations & imagined outcomes/'what ifs'Ref: Roe, L. (2025). Local rationality question tool: understanding why it made sense at the time. In Golightly, D., Balfe, N., & Charles, R. (Eds.), Contemporary Ergonomics and Human Factors 2025: Proceedings of the Chartered Institute of Ergonomics and Human Factors Annual Conference (pp. 360-362). CIEHF. Resources & Links:Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSupport the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E98: Writing better procedures part 1: Action verbs, human factors & more 13.09.2026 14pWhy are so many procedures technically accurate, but barely workable in practice?In Part 1 of this two part series on procedural systems, we unpack the technical side of writing better, more useable procedures: exploring how to reduce safety clutter, choosing the right type of rule, and structure instructions so they support work.We unpack:• Types of rules: performance goal vs. process vs. action rules & how they limit or enable discretion• Formatting: Action-verb steps, concrete language & single-action steps• Critical steps: Highlighting actions where mistakes cause immediate or unrecoverable harm• Warnings & alerts: What guidelines and research suggests about effective warning placementAnd more.In Part 2, we go beyond technical writing and structure to unpack procedures from a Resilience Engineering and Safety-II perspective – procedures as resources for action.Resources & Links:Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSupport the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E97: Investigating when 'Nothing' Failed: a Safety-II/HOP debrief tool (Quickisode) 09.09.2026 7pThis quickisode races through a Safety-II / HOP inspired debrief tool which can help unearth 'hidden' insights about work that doesn't rely on incidents for learning.Resources & Links:Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSupport the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E96: Dr Linda Bellamy Part 1: Fatal vs Minor hazards, SIFs & Barrier Failures 06.09.2026 24pIs there a relationship between fatal and minor hazard exposures? Recent SIF research & movements suggest 'NO' - what kills people aren't the same as what hurts them.But is that scientifically accurate? Part 1 discussion with Dr Linda Bellamy, who undertook perhaps the largest study of this kind exploring the connection - and, there ** is ** a connection.We discuss barrier/control systems & how they fail and succeed, weak signals, indicators and more.Resources & Links:Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSupport the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E95: Critical Controls & Barriers - Part 4: What do barrier models leave out? A Safety-II critique 30.08.2026 28pA bowtie or critical control register may be useful tools, but they aren't the work.In Part 4 of this series, I unpack what control / barrier models can leave out: e.g. changing conditions, competing goals, control dependencies, unintended consequences and the adaptations people make to keep work functioning.I also explore how controls can change the systems they are introduced into, why more barriers don't always mean greater risk control, and why successful work may conceal degraded controls and poor design.We should specify, support and verify barriers but also ask: "What do the people using the control know that the bowtie doesn’t show?"Part 1: https://youtu.be/qQfORHGC4BsPart 2: https://youtu.be/7sPqw5NAyiEPart 3: https://youtu.be/Ly1mEn_KCLQResources & Links:Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSupport the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E94: Dr Marcin Nazaruk Part 2: HOP, New View, Learning from Daily Work 23.08.2026 14pToday I interview Dr Marcin Nazaruk, who shares his practical experience and research on learning from normal work / daily work, HOP / New View / Safety-II, to improve learning and risk management.The discussion also explores themes around risk controls, work constraints, risk assessments, and error traps.Support the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E93: Critical Controls & Barriers & Safeguard | Part 3: Human Factors & Human Performance 16.08.2026 29pHow do we set realistic and effective human performance expectations in our barrier approaches?In part 1 we looked at definitions of controls and barriers, whereas in part 2 we explored a deeper dive into their applications and escalation factors.This episode unpacks a few key sources to explore critical human factors and human performance considerations for barrier / control systems.Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSubscribe to the series for Part 4.Support the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E92: Dr Marcin Nazaruk Part 1: HOP, New View, Learning from Daily Work 09.08.2026 16pToday I interview Dr Marcin Nazaruk, who shares his practical experience and research on learning from normal work / daily work, HOP / New View / Safety-II, to improve learning and risk management.The discussion also explores themes around risk controls, work constraints, risk assessments, and error traps.Support the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E91: Critical Controls & Barriers & Safeguards | Part 2: From paper to practice (e.g. bow-ties & more) 02.08.2026 30pHow do we translate a paper barrier system into one that's functional and verified as effective?Whereas part 1 looked at key definitions of control, barrier, safeguard, support, and verification activity - this episode dives deeper into the use of such frameworks.In particular, we unpack escalation / degradation / erosion factors, and the necessary support mechanisms to ensure controls work as intended, when intended.Key sources analysed in this episode:International Council on Mining and Metals (ICMM) – Critical Control Management FrameworkThe Chartered Institute of Ergonomics & Human Factors (CIEHF) – Human Factors in Barrier ManagementConstruction Safety Research Alliance (CSRA) & Professor Matthew HallowellPetroleum Safety Authority (PSA) NorwayResources & Links:Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSubscribe to the series for Parts 3, and 4.Support the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E90: Dr Guido Carim Jr Part 2 26.07.2026 11pPart 2 of our interview with Dr. Guido Carim Junior, Associate Professor of Aviation, pilot, researcher, and safety scientist. We pick up the conversation with digital checklists, examining the potential role of AI and how "smart" features risk narrowing human decision-making rather than supporting it.Guido shares critical thoughts on the line between genuine organizational resilience and workarounds that mask underlying brittleness. We discuss the "tragedy of adaptability" and potential blind spots within Safety-II and HOP when organizations over-rely on human adaptation instead of fixing flawed systems.We also cover how to surface informal practices for learning without turning them into rigid, bureaucratic rules, and why safety audits need to look past green-checking compliance documents to tune into weak signals and daily operational reality.Please Like, Subscribe and Share. Also check out my blog at https://SafetyInsights.OrgSupport the channel here: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E89: Critical Controls, Barriers & Safeguards | Part 1: Definitions & Inconsistencies 19.07.2026 26pIs that a control, barrier, safeguard, support, or verification activity? Is it an object, a human act, a system or just a procedure? Does it actually address the hazardous energy, or does it sound good on paper?If we label every single checklist and administrative task a "critical control," do we risk diluting the operational focus required to prevent high-consequence events? If everything is critical, nothing is.Part 1 of this 4-part series unpacks how these terms are used (and misused) across the industry, evaluating the baseline definitions that dictate how we manage risk.Key sources analysed in this episode:International Council on Mining and Metals (ICMM) – Critical Control Management FrameworkThe Chartered Institute of Ergonomics & Human Factors (CIEHF) – Human Factors in Barrier ManagementConstruction Safety Research Alliance (CSRA) & Professor Matthew HallowellPetroleum Safety Authority (PSA) NorwayResources & Links:Website & Articles: https://safetyinsights.orgSubscribe to the series for Parts 2, 3, and 4.Support the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E88: Dr Guido Carim Jr Part 1 17.07.2026 13pInterview with Guido part 1 -
E87: Risk Management vs. Rule Compliance: The False Choice 23.06.2026 7pWhen you're standing on the front line making an operational call, risk doesn't come with a green or red light. You have to make a binary decision: stop or go.We don't necessarily make it easy for our decision-makers to make good, defendable decisions.This video unpacks Andrew Hopkins’ 2011 Safety Science article, "Risk Management & Rule Compliance: Decision-making in hazardous industries". Hopkins argues that choosing between risk management and rule compliance is a false choice - they're complementary, not contradictory.Because risk sits on a continuum but decisions require a definitive line in the sand, high-hazard industries must translate broad risk management principles into clear operational rules for the sharp end.What is covered:a. Why risk management and rule compliance must co-exist and complement each other.b. Why frontline workers need clear "do it or don't" thresholds rather than numerical risk criteria.c. Goal, Process, and Action Rulesd. Why risk assessments can be more 'legitimation rituals'Support the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E86: CEO speeches: Talking Our Way to Disaster #DeepWaterHorizon #BP 09.06.2026 8pOn April 15, 2010, BP CEO Tony Hayward reassured shareholders that the company was safer and more efficient than ever. Five days later, the Deepwater Horizon disaster happened. This video unpacks a study that evaluated CEO speeches and how rhetoric and slogans can be disconnected with actual behaviour and resourcing.It explores how relentless cost-cutting and corporate rhetoric set the stage for catastrophe.Support the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E85:When Success Leads to Disaster: Practical Drift & the 1994 Black Hawk Friendly Fire Shootdown 19.05.2026 28pIn 1994, two US Air force F15 fighters shot down two friendly US Army Black Hawk helicopters.This event shouldn't have been possible: there were experts, radio communications, radar, AWACS and more.However, this isn't a tragedy due to human error or a lack of safeguards, it happened in spite of the safeguards.This episode unpacks a few findings from the seminal book from Scott Snook called 'Friendly Fire'. We’ll explore how "Practical Drift" - the slow, invisible uncoupling of local practice from centralised procedure, turned a routine mission into a catastrophe. This book is a masterclass in what can happen when our Work-as-Imagined has little to do with the reality of Work-as-Done on the frontline.Support the channel: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinson -
E84: The pitfalls of safety reporting metrics and 'safewashing' our way to disaster 05.05.2026 12pCan our safety reporting and indicators mask signals that organizations are drifting to major accident?This episode unpacks two reports from O'Neill and colleagues looking at the pitfalls of safety reporting measures, and also explores weaknesses in annual safety reports - particularly how reports may be 'safewashing'.More research at SafetyInsights.OrgIntro/Output "Dark Synth Wave" by ElephantGreen (PixaBay.com)Make sure to subscribe to Safe As on Spotify/Apple, and if you find it useful then please help share the news, and leave a rating and review on your podcast app.I also have a Safe As LinkedIn group if you want to stay up to date on releases. -
E83: Why Smart Managers Ignore Deadly Warning Signs: Gretley & Moura Mine Disasters 21.04.2026 13pThis ep unpacks two articles from Andrew Hopkins, exploring the similarities between the Gretley and Moura mine disasters.Namely, Hopkins argues that a 'culture of denial' existed at both mines, and probably exists across large, high-risk organisations, too. This culture of denial involved a series of beliefs that dismissed warning signs of danger.More research at SafetyInsights.OrgIntro/Output "Dark Synth Wave" by ElephantGreen (PixaBay.com)Make sure to subscribe to Safe As on Spotify/Apple, and if you find it useful then please help share the news, and leave a rating and review on your podcast app.I also have a Safe As LinkedIn group if you want to stay up to date on releases. -
E82: Why Good Leaders Make Terrible Decisions (The Science of Bias) 14.04.2026 4pOur mental shortcuts (heuristics) serve us well. They help us navigate a complex, ambiguous world normally safely and efficiently.But in modern organisations, they can sometimes lead us astray - via biases. In this context biases are systematic distortions away from an expected decision or judgement.This article, with Daniel Kahneman and colleagues, unpack some ways to help debias critical decisions.In their words: "Dangerous biases can creep into every strategic choice. Here's how to find them--before they lead you astray".More research at SafetyInsights.OrgIntro/Output "Dark Synth Wave" by ElephantGreen (PixaBay.com)Make sure to subscribe to Safe As on Spotify/Apple, and if you find it useful then please help share the news, and leave a rating and review on your podcast app.I also have a Safe As LinkedIn group if you want to stay up to date on releases.
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