Weird Little Guys

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• Outside Agitators 04.06.2026 52min

  In 1967, segregationist lawyer Jack Kershaw swore out a warrant against George Ware, an organizer with the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. By the end of the week, a congressman was denouncing Ware on the house floor as an outside agitator. But what is an outside agitator? What do we mean when we blame unrest on these untrustworthy outsiders? Where does that idea come from? And is it even true?Sources & Further Reading:https://belonging.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/ARCHIVE/kerner_commission_full_report.pdf https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html https://www.crmvet.org/docs/sv/670400_sncc_nyc-newsletter.pdf https://www.christcathedral.org/phase-to-history/st-anselms-liberation-school-and-the-long-hot-summer-of-1967/ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/274/538/1574803/ https://www.phillytrib.com/obituaries/george-w-ware-jr-72-educator/article_0e1a1218-3c2b-51fa-b960-61094a1f6d98.html https://digitalcollections.library.gsu.edu/digital/collection/GSB/id/10262/ https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmanac/document.php?id=cqal67-1311343 https://www.nytimes.com/1967/08/05/archives/us-aides-in-visit-to-negro-school-view-a-drama-at-institution-cited.html https://www.nytimes.com/1967/08/12/archives/nashville-panel-suspends-school-liberation-classroom-also-ousted.html https://www.nytimes.com/1967/08/09/archives/official-changes-testimony-on-antiwhite-school.html https://www.nytimes.com/1967/08/30/archives/sedition-charges-dropped.html https://www.wsmv.com/2025/02/25/former-nashville-assistant-police-chief-dies-while-custody-wifes-death/ https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/wife-former-mnpd-assistant-police-chief-found-shot-to-death-rutherford-county/ https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-07-12/race-troubles-109-us-cities-faced-violence-in-1967 https://www.nybooks.com/online/2020/07/27/a-brief-history-of-dangerous-others/ https://dailynorthwestern.com/2020/11/12/audio/defining-safe-defining-the-outside-agitator/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• In Loving Memory of Laura & Mike Sullivan 04.06.2026 11min

  We lost one of the greats last month. Laura Sullivan was an antifascist researcher, a photographer, a journalist, a friend, a mother, and a mentor. She was a legend and we were lucky to have her while we did. You can make a donation to One People's Project, the antifascist organization Laura was involved in for more than two decades, here:https://onepeoplesproject.com/donate/ Daryle Lamont Jenkins' tribute to his longtime friends & collaborators, Laura & Mike Sullivan: https://idavox.com/index.php/2026/05/07/the-sullivans-much-love-and-rest-in-peace/ Abner Hauge's tribute to Laura & Mike: https://leftcoastrightwatch.org/articles/in-memoriam-laura-mike-sullivan/ Laura's Obituary: https://obituaries.carewellcremations.com/laura-sullivan Sources & Further Reading:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jeffrey-clark-dc-neo-nazi-arrested_n_5beb99ffe4b0caeec2bf24e5 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nazi-punch-antifa_n_59e13ae9e4b03a7be580ce6f https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/02/fbi-court-battle-identity-imf-protest-informantsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• It's One Nazi Rally, Donald, How Much Could It Cost? 28.05.2026 46min

  Wrapping up the discussion of the MAGA narrative surrounding the SPLC indictment, Molly addresses the question of money. If the administration is implying the SPLC fully funded the 2017 Unite the Right rally, what would that mean? How much does something like that cost? And who actually paid for it?Sources & Additional Reading:https://www.integrityfirstforamerica.org/exhibits https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crime/4540209/splc-money-informant-unite-the-right-richard-spencer-national-policy-institute/ https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/discord/server/4 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/02/patriot-front-recruits-members-young-pyramid-scheme https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59680212/united-states-v-hiles/ https://vault.unicornriot.ninja/patriotfrontleaks/ National Policy Institute Form 990shttps://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/521259838 Mary Noel Kershaw Foundation Form 990shttps://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/621608693 Charles Martel Society Form 990shttps://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/364397594 https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00583658/?tab=filings&cycle=2018See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• Nazis React to the President Saying They Aren't Real 21.05.2026 44min

  The MAGA media is running with the President's theory that the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017 wasn't real. That's offensive to anyone with a solid relationship with reality, but it's especially hurtful for the guys who worked very hard to plan that nazi rally. Link to the September 29, 2025 episode of I Don't Speak German that was mentioned:  https://idontspeakgerman.libsyn.com/136-the-final-cantwell  Sources:https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/06/20/egg-sposed-we-reveal-the-identity-of-far-right-bodybuilder-the-raw-egg-nationalist/  https://eugeneantifa.noblogs.org/post/2019/06/28/davidzsutty/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IufVP9wHeUs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l4pUinLZ_0See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• The Southern Poverty Law Center Did Not Plan Unite the Right 14.05.2026 49min

  The President of the United States went on 60 Minutes last month and claimed that the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017 was fake, a hoax perpetrated by the Southern Poverty Law Center. He's referring to allegations made in the recent indictment against the SPLC that one of their paid informants was a member of the planning chat for the rally. But what does the indictment actually say? And what kind of person snitches for money?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• Emergency Minisode: Jason Kessler Sues Gavin McInnes 11.05.2026 10min

  It's the first ever Weird Little Guys emergency broadcast! A weird little guy has filed a lawsuit against another weird little guy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• Listener Questions 07.05.2026 44min

  Molly answers some of your burning questions about important stuff, like a nazi's tuna casserole recipe, who came up with a rhyming phrase about fascist violence, and what kind of cake she's eating this week.Sources:Testa, M. Militant Anti-Fascism: A Hundred Years of Resistance. AK Press, 2015.https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/m-testa-militant-anti-fascism https://socialistworker.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/a-radical-guide-to-antifascism-LR-1.pdf https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/we-should-give-no-quarter-those-seeking-divide-us https://www.thenation.com/podcast/society/ttom-donegan-friedan/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• Say a Good Word for Slavery: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 3 30.04.2026 47min

  In the final part of the story about Jack Kershaw, we'll talk about his legal career. Before he represented MLK's assassin, before he sculpted a gigantic racist statue out of old bathtubs, he got a law degree from a part time night school program at the YMCA so he could do his part to stop integration.Sources:Phillips, Betsy. Dynamite Nashville: the FBI, the KKK, and the bombers beyond their control. Third Man Books 2021.Houston, Benjamin, et al. “‘We Kept the Discussion at an Adult Level’: Jack Kershaw and the Tennessee Federation for Constitutional Government.” Southern Cultures, vol. 20, no. 4, 2014, pp. 72–88. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/26217566 Graham, Hugh Davis. “Desegregation in Nashville: The Dynamics of Compliance.” Tennessee Historical Quarterly, vol. 25, no. 2, 1966, pp. 135–54. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/42622869 McMillen, Neil R. “Organized Resistance to School Desegregation In Tennessee.” Tennessee Historical Quarterly, vol. 30, no. 3, 1971, pp. 315–28. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/42623247 Michael J. Henry, Student Display of the Confederate Flag in Public Schools, 33 J.L. & EDUC. 573 (2004).https://scholarcommons.sc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2824&context=jled Egerton, Joel. Walking into History: The Beginning of School Desegregation in Nashvillehttps://southernspaces.org/2009/walking-history-beginning-school-desegregation-nashville/ https://www.ahcuah.com/lawsuit/federal/melton.htm https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/328/88/1428295/ https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/klanbly-friendly-tennessee-state-becomes-hate-tourist-mecca/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/42777957/james-n-mason/ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/BR/81/897/1821803/ https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/the-fugitives/ https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/clinton-desegregation-crisis/ https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/us/nashville-civil-rights-bombings.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• The Princess in the Parking Lot 23.04.2026 41min

  Police in New Jersey arrested a woman found sleeping in her car in a strip mall parking lot after the plates came back registered to a stolen vehicle. Her lawyer, Tennessee segregationist Jack Kershaw, insisted that his client was not only innocent, but said she was telling the truth - she really was a Romanian princess.Sources:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1509995/HRH-Prince-Carol-of-Romania.html https://www.nytimes.com/1979/12/23/archives/new-jersey-weekly-the-princess-and-the-police-once-upon-the.html https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/07/15/Lawsuit-against-princess-dismissed/2985395553600/ https://stiri.botosani.ro/stiri/actualitate/paul-de-romania-mai-are-un-frate-printul-alexandru.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• CZM Rewind: Disney's Villain 16.04.2026 39min

  After losing his job, an ex-Disney employee tried to get his former employer's attention by hacking in and making strange updates to company files. Original Air Date: 6.5.25Sources:https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69534211/united-states-v-scheuer/https://www.eeoc.gov/what-you-can-expect-after-you-file-chargehttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/26/us/disney-worker-prison-hacking.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• Playboy Payola: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 2 09.04.2026 43min

  Decades before he sculpted a Confederate general out of old bathtubs, Jack Kershaw briefly represented his most famous client - Martin Luther King Jr's assassin, James Earl Ray. The relationship soured after Ray discovered his lawyer had pocketed a payment from Playboy magazine.Sources:James McKinley, "Playboy Interview: James Earl Ray," Playboy Magazine, September 1977https://www.nytimes.com/1977/08/09/archives/polygraph-indicates-ray-lied.html https://www.nytimes.com/1977/10/25/archives/james-earl-ray-wants-mark-lane-to-replace-his-tenth-lawyer.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/sports/the-barkley-marathons-few-know-how-to-enter-fewer-finish.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• Strange People on the Hill feat. Michael Edison Hayden 03.04.2026 57min

  Molly interviews Michael Edison Hayden about his new book, Strange People on the Hill: How Extremism Tore Apart a Small Town. The book is an intimate portrait of what happened in Berkeley Springs, West Virginia after a white nationalist group moved into the castle on the hill.Preorder the book now or buy it anywhere books are sold when it comes out on April 7, 2026 https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/michael-edison-hayden/strange-people-on-the-hill/9781645030607/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• The Ugliest Confederate Statue in the World: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 1 02.04.2026 38min

  Jack Kershaw created his most famous piece of art in his 80s. His lifelong passion for the arts had to take a backseat when he shifted his focus to becoming a professional racist during the fight against integration. He was doing it for his confederate ancestors, he would often say. But he was never very specific about who exactly his ancestors were...The It Could Happen Here episode mentioned, originally aired 2/22/2024 - https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ZQAqsxImsNGQUTzHGKhNp Sources:https://thesewaneepurple.org/2021/03/23/polk-sculpture-donated-by-white-supremacist-jack-kershaw/ https://thesewaneepurple.org/2021/03/22/polk-sculpture-removed-by-student-taken-to-archives/ https://meridiana.sewanee.edu/2022/04/30/a-year-later-a-letter-of-explanation/ https://www.moca.org/collection/work/unmanned-drone https://religiondispatches.org/2025/10/28/swords-plowshares https://www.sipcville.com/ https://www.vpm.org/news/2026-03-23/swords-into-plowshares-cville-jefferson-school-designs-hood-push-mass https://www.vpm.org/news/2024-05-23/swords-into-plowshares-robert-e-lee-statue-charlottesville-centennial https://www.npr.org/2021/02/23/970610428/nearly-100-confederate-monuments-removed-in-2020-report-says-more-than-700-remai https://segregationinamerica.eji.org/report/confederate-icongraphy.html https://wpln.org/post/even-as-statue-forrest-still-draws-fire/ https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/03/30/Ray-says-lawyer-hid-Playboy-fee/1722386312400/ The Late Show With Stephen Colbert, August 2017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvCjM1lPwg4 Last Week Tonight With John Oliver, October 2017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5b_-TZwQ0ISee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• Minisode: The Real Earl Turner 01.04.2026 10min

  Before we leave the novels of William Luther Pierce behind us, let's take a quick look at the real Earl Turner. The protagonist of The Turner Diaries was, like all of Pierce's characters, named after a real guy he knew.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• The Nazi's Mary Sue: Hunter, Pt. 2 26.03.2026 55min

  At the end of this exploration of nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin and the novel loosely based on his crimes, the question remains: did any of his friends in the white power movement know what he was going to do before he did it? What clues does the novel hold? Sources:Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: RoutledgeBill Simmons, "Defendants All Acquitted In Sedition Trial," AP News, April 8, 1988https://www.kcur.org/news/2024-04-12/overland-park-antisemitic-murders-jewish-community-center-shooting-survivors https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article2595772.html http://www.kansas.com/2014/04/15/3406670/records-suggest-federal-authorities.html https://momentsthatsurvive.org/tribute/pierce-hastings/ https://www.wunc.org/2014-04-15/an-idiot-with-a-gun-leaves-families-in-kansas-reeling https://www.kmbc.com/article/shooting-victim-remembered-for-upbeat-attitude-work-with-kids/3681879See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• The Nazi's Mary Sue: Hunter, Pt. 1 19.03.2026 52min

  A closer look at the second novel by the man who wrote The Turner Diaries reveals that it isn't just about serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin... it's the author's fantasy about the man he wishes he could have been.  Sources: Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020 Thomas Martinez, Brotherhood of Murder: The Shocking Inside Story of The Order. McGraw Hill, 1988 Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 6 12.03.2026 47min

  As we approach the end of the series on nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin, the rest of the timeline is filled in. Shortly after murdering two young men in Utah, Franklin was arrested at a motel in Kentucky after calling to complain that a police car had him double parked.Sources:Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011Ralph Echols, Life Without Mercy: Jake Beard, Joseph Paul Franklin and the Rainbow Murders, Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: RoutledgeFlynn, Kevin, and Gary Gerhardt. The Silent Brotherhood: Inside America's Racist Underground Free Press ; Collier Macmillan, 1989.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• Raymond Turner 05.03.2026 46min

  Just about every source of information about nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin gets the name of one of his victims wrong. In my search for information about the man who was murdered in Falls Church, Virginia in August of 1979, I came up mostly empty. We've erased a man from the story of his own murder because it's easier to tell a story about a racist than it is to talk about racism. Sources:Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011Moon, V. The middleburg mystique: A peek inside the gates of Middleburg, Virginia. Waverley Lee Media, LLC. 2016Matthew Exline, We Have Been Waiting Too Long: The Struggle Against Racial Segregation in Loudoun County, Virginia. Have History Will Travel Press, 2020.Carole Townsend, Blood in the Soil. Skyhorse, 2016Douglas, John E., Ann W. Burgess, et al. Crime Classification Manual: A Standard System for Investigating and Classifying Violent Crimes. John Wiley and Sons, 2006.The Study of the Operation of Segregated Schools in Loudoun County, Virginia conducted by Teachers in the Movement Oral History Project Research Team University of Virginia School of Education and Human Development https://www.loudoun.gov/DocumentCenter/View/214704/The-Study-of-the-Operation-of-Segregated-Schools-in-Loudoun-County-Virginia_FINAL https://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.displayContent&theFile=content/deathPenalty/trial https://www.aclunorcal.org/app/uploads/2010/03/costs_of_death_penalty_trials.pdf https://fds.duke.edu/db?attachment-34--1667-view-301 https://www.dhr.virginia.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/259-0162-0007_ShilohBaptistChurch_2017_NRHP_FINAL.pdf https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1990/04/26/middleburg/74b1854a-dca2-4b45-8bc5-7999ab4e015c/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/05/loudoun-county-segregated-schools-reparations/ http://www.virginiaplaces.org/government/constitution1902.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1979/08/21/turner-raymond-elton/4ae0ab2f-ef82-477d-a8f8-39ababc4c72c/ https://edwinwashingtonproject.org/files/original/62047/1014789_EWP_2-5A_Yr_1930_CountyWide_on_Gibbons_Lot.pdfSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 5 26.02.2026 50min

  After Joseph Paul Franklin was arrested in 1980, prosecutors all over the country were waiting their turn to try him for murder. After a federal prosecutor failed to convince a jury that shooting a man just for being black was a civil rights violation, they lost their confidence. But Joseph Paul Franklin was desperate to get out of the federal prison where he was serving his first few life sentences. Sources:Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011Thomas Martinez, Brotherhood of Murder: The Shocking Inside Story of The Order. McGraw Hill, 1988Jessica Mitford, Kind and Usual Punishment: The Prison Business, New York, Vintage Books, 1973Devins, Neal, "Reagan Redux: Civil Rights Under Bush" (1993). Faculty Publications. 429.https://scholarship.law.wm.edu/facpubs/429https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1985/06/28/reynolds-nomination-voted-down/115c0520-c848-4c17-a302-209a9a9d5a4a/ https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/28/us/senate-committee-rejects-reynolds-for-justice-post.html https://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/07/us/us-rights-official-discounts-tension.html https://virginiamercury.com/2019/04/22/can-a-local-prosecutor-decide-to-just-stop-prosecuting-marijuana-cases-the-va-supreme-court-will-decide/ https://www.hcpros.org/case-vault-1 https://www.nytimes.com/1986/02/09/us/slayer-faces-trial-in-2-apparently-racial-killings.html https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_v._Lanza https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-5/dual-sovereignty-doctrine https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/7299259/united-states-v-fields/ https://www.washingtonian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Utah-AG-Report.pdf https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4403054/mitchell-v-roberts/ https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-08-02-mn-747-story.html https://people.umass.edu/~kastor/ceml_articles/cu_in_us.html https://freedomarchives.org/Documents/Finder/DOC3_scans/3.journal.prisons.prisoners.griffin.1993.pdf https://concrim.asc41.com/wp-content/uploads/j32.pdf https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1980/10/23/murders-of-blacks-baffle-us-officials/f8eefeac-1ca3-48de-85a0-4b9db645b01e/ https://www.nytimes.com/1982/02/24/us/study-accuses-justice-dept-of-waging-attack-on-civil-rights-laws.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/10/marion-prison-lockdown-thomas-silverstein-how-a-1983-murder-created-america-s-terrible-supermax-prison-culture.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
• One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 4 19.02.2026 1h 1min

  When Joseph Paul Franklin hit the road to start his killing spree, his movements seemed completely random. But what if they weren't? Sources: Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011 Fine, Morris, and Milton Himmelfard. American Jewish Year Book 1979. 1978. Frenkel, Margaret. American synagogue directory, 1963 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-25016217 https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4300634/zink-v-lombardi/ https://isthmus.com/archive/from-the-archives/in-cold-blood/ https://www.almd.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2022-04/OH-transcript-baxley.pdf https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/crime/2014/04/14/timeline-hate-filled-life/7712569/ https://law.justia.com/cases/missouri/supreme-court/2000/sc-81859-1.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.