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  CPG Venture Math Behind a Series A, and Making Founders "Whole" on Dilution - Iris Ventures 20.08.2026 38min

  Episode 121: Iris Ventures: Florian Wojewodzki on the CPG Venture Math Behind a Series A, Making Founders "Whole" on Dilution, and the Health-and-Wellness SupercycleIn this episode — the show's first growth-stage consumer/CPG investor after 130 episodes — I sit down with Florian Wojewodzki, Partner at Iris Ventures, an early-growth, consumer-focused fund headquartered in Barcelona with a satellite in London, managing just over €225M across two funds. Florian gives one of the most transparent breakdowns of venture math I've heard: Iris underwrites every deal to 4x its money (they're a MOIC shop, not an IRR shop), targets a 3–5 year hold, and typically leads or co-leads for 15–25% ownership with €7–8M initial checks that can step up to €20M inclusive of follow-ons. We get into exactly what a Series A founder needs to clear the bar (roughly €3M+ revenue, real capital efficiency, healthy gross margins, strong repeat), why Iris never underwrites to multiple expansion or to IPO, and how they think about exits (mostly strategic sale). Florian is refreshingly candid about founder incentives — Iris has asked existing cap tables to hand founders back 5–10 points when they've been over-diluted, because a founder without skin in the game is a problem down the line. Then we go deep on his biggest conviction: a 10–15 year health-and-wellness supercycle, why "health is wealth" is reshaping wallet share, where the real edge lives (novel, science-backed ingredients over commoditized "brand plays"), and the thesis behind his recent seed investment in Lucille, a senior-nutrition brand chasing a massive, un-innovated white space.🎧 Listen to the full masterclass to hear the founder question Florian always asks ("what are you optimizing for?"), why raising at the highest possible valuation can set you up for pain, the 4–5x top-line growth you need to be "in the money," why consumer is a natural moat while everyone else piles into AI and defense, and how Iris found Lucille pre-launch through an angel network.Key Facts: Iris VenturesFlorian Wojewodzki: https://www.linkedin.com/in/florian-wojewodzki-36434424Website: weareiris.comHeadquarters: Barcelona, SpainFund: An early-growth, consumer-focused venture fund managing just over €225M across two fundsStage & Focus: Almost exclusively Series A / Series B branded consumer propositions (with a very high bar for 1–2 seed deals per fund). ~80% Western Europe + UK, up to ~20% opportunistically in the US.Check Sizes: €7–8M initial, stepping up to €20M inclusive of follow-on reserves; leads or co-leads all rounds and takes board seats.BlurbIRIS VENTURES is a rare thing in European venture: a true consumer specialist, deploying just over €225M across two funds into Series A and B branded consumer businesses with the brand sensibility and ear-to-the-ground the category demands. What makes this conversation so useful is Florian Wojewodzki's willingness to show the actual machinery of the decision. Iris is a MOIC shop that underwrites every deal to 4x over three to five years, never bets on multiple expansion, and is transparent with founders at the term-sheet stage about exactly what it has promised its LPs. The result is a clear, teachable picture of what a growth-stage consumer round really requires — roughly €3M+ in revenue, genuine capital efficiency, durable gross margins, and a credible path to a strategic exit — and an honest account of the traps, from raising at a valuation you can't grow into to arriving at Series A already over-diluted. 
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  Re-Examining Tech Adoption: Lance Lively on Market Pull, CPG Unlocking, and Beyond Meat’s Missteps 18.08.2026 47min

  Episode 120: Re-Examining Technology Adoption: Lance Lively on Market Pull, CPG Unlocking, and Beyond Meat’s Missteps In this episode, I speak with Lance Lively, founder of Livelyhood and former executive at The Every Company and BioLumen. Lance breaks down why the alternative protein industry hit a commercial plateau despite early techno-optimism, challenging standard S-curve adoption models and offering a masterclass in how market demand actually works. Lance walks us through the intellectual foundations of alternative protein, dissecting how pioneers misread historical case studies like kerosene, automobiles, recombinant rennet, and synthetic insulin to build a flawed premise: that "superior" technology inherently guarantees market dominance. He exposes the severe survivorship bias behind the S-curve, explaining why tech features do not drive adoption, but rather how unblocking pre-existing, acute market demand creates the conditions for new technologies to flourish. We go deep on the contrast between pitch-deck promises and real-world supply chains: how animal welfare pledges failed to drive commercial adoption for precision-fermentation eggs until Avian Flu price spikes forced multinational food brands to seek a functional hedge; why plant-based meat stalled sub-1% market share as animal meat was culturally reframed as a healthy, whole food while alt-meat got labeled as ultra-processed; and how CPG breakouts like Gruns achieve explosive scale not through deep tech, but by unblocking friction points for hyper-specific customer profiles.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear why kerosene didn't displace whale oil simply because it was "better," but because industrial growth desperately needed evening light right as whale scarcity priced buyers out; how Avian Flu outbreaks turned precision-fermentation egg proteins into an essential supply-chain hedge; why animal meat flipped into a "health food" in the cultural zeitgeist while plant-based meat lost its halo; and how deep-tech founders can stop building in a vacuum by embedding themselves in industry to solve blocked customer priorities.Key Facts & Key Concepts Lance Lively (Founder & CEO): https://www.linkedin.com/in/lancelively Website: https://www.findlivelyhood.com/Headquarter: USACore Thesis: Advanced technology does not generate market adoption—unblocked market demand does. Startups that focus on tech specs rather than unblocking customer friction are trapped in survivorship bias.Blurb LIVELYHOOD founder Lance Lively addresses a fundamental question facing food-tech: where is the adoption we were promised? Around 2019, alternative protein pioneers operated on an axiomatic belief that animal-free products would inevitably conquer animal agriculture following the classic sigmoidal "S-curve" seen in smartphones, automobiles, and synthetic insulin. But as plant-based meat market share sits below 1% and former industry darlings struggle, Lance delivers a candid diagnosis of what went wrong. By re-examining the real economic forces behind historic tech shifts—from whale oil to kerosene—he shows why ethical pledges fall flat until supply chain shocks force enterprise action, and outlines a practical framework for founders to build products around unblocking real customer pain points.
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  On Landing DSM as a Strategic Lead, & Why He Chose B2B Over Building a Brand- Lorenzo Pessini, NOUS 12.08.2026 42min

  Episode 119: Nous: Lorenzo Pessini on Landing dsm-firmenich as a Strategic Lead, the Clinical Study That Closed the Round, and Why He Chose B2B Over Building a BrandIn this episode, I speak with Lorenzo Pessini, the 27-year-old CEO & Founder of NOUS, an Italian food-tech company building the functional ingredients of the future for food, beverage, and nutraceuticals. NOUS just closed a €2.315M seed round led by dsm-firmenich Ventures (co-led by Eatable Adventures and CDP Venture Capital) — and the story of how it came together is a masterclass in working with a strategic. dsm-firmenich's scouting team found Nous roughly 18 months earlier, when the company was a pre-seed unknown whose only real digital footprint was a press release from its FoodSeed pre-seed. Lorenzo walks us through the pivot that reframed their flagship ingredient, Koncentra, from a "caffeine alternative" (a losing race against cheap synthetic caffeine) into a botanical brain-wellbeing ingredient for energy, focus, and mood — and how a jointly-run clinical study with dsm-firmenich became the single thing that closed the round. We go deep on the mechanics most founders never hear: what clinical studies actually cost (€70K to €180K+), how crossover designs cut the bill, why placebo is the golden standard, and the 9–15 month timeline from protocol to publication. Then Lorenzo makes a candid case for B2B over B2C, explains a deliberately counterintuitive IP strategy (patent the product, keep the process a trade secret), and shares grounded wisdom on valuation, transparency, and the patience a corporate partnership demands.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear why a press release should spotlight the company, not the founder; how to get a strategic to co-invest in the very clinical study that de-risks their own deal; the crossover-study trick that turns 20 participants into a 60-person comparison; why Lorenzo would rather be "in the shadows" doing R&D than exposed to consumer pressure; and his approach to benchmarking valuation by calling other founders — with a crucial caveat about comparing apples to apples.Key Facts: NousLorenzo Pessini (CEO & Founder): https://www.linkedin.com/in/pessinilorenzoHeadquarters: ItalyWhat They Do: A B2B food-tech company developing science-backed functional ingredients for food, beverage, and nutraceuticals. Flagship ingredient Koncentra is a botanical phytocomplex (a combination of molecules from four raw materials) positioned for brain wellbeing — supporting energy levels, cognition/alertness, and mood — via a proprietary extraction and granulation process.Funding: €2.315M seed round led by dsm-firmenich Ventures, co-led by Eatable Adventures (via Accelera Ventures) and CDP Venture Capital.BlurbNOUS is built on a disciplined idea: that the winning functional ingredients of the future won't be the loudest consumer brands, but the scientifically-validated building blocks inside them. Its flagship, Koncentra, is a botanical phytocomplex engineered through a proprietary extraction and granulation process to support energy, focus, and mood — a "brain-wellbeing" ingredient designed to sit inside the products of the world's biggest beverage and supplement companies rather than compete with them on a shelf. When a race against cheap synthetic caffeine proved a dead end, Nous repositioned the ingredient around what a third party could actually prove it did, and let the science lead.
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  Being "Found" by Investors, Pivoting from Product to Platform, Turning LOIs into Paid Pilots - XiA'H 10.08.2026 25min

  Episode 118: XiA'H: Dan Cabral on Being "Found" by Investors from Monterrey, Pivoting from Product to Platform, and Turning LOIs into Paid PilotsIn this episode — a first for the show, our first founder from Mexico — I speak with Dan Cabral, CEO & Co-Founder of XiA'H, a Monterrey-based biotech that discovers, develops, and scales science-backed functional ingredients from nature using biotechnology. XiA'H just received investment from Big Idea Ventures, kick-starting its pre-seed round. Dan's story is a playbook for building outside the big VC hubs: starting with essentially zero pesos and an FFF round, she stitched together global accelerators — a START Fellowship at the University of St. Gallen that took him to Switzerland for six months, then Mass Challenge — until the ecosystem started referring him upward and Big Idea Ventures reached in on LinkedIn and "found" him. We dig into XiA'H's sharp pivot from a B2C functional chewing gum to a B2B ingredient platform, how they de-risk a famously fragmented ingredient-development pipeline, and how they beat the "you're too early / can young scientists really execute?" objection by converting LOIs into paid pilots and scaling to 50-litre bioreactor batches.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear how a founder in a "blooming but new" ecosystem gets found by a global fund, how XiA'H compresses ingredient development from 6–10 years to 2–3 (and one protein matrix from months to two weeks), the pet-nutrition work they're proud of, how Dan raised an FFF round without fear, and why she'll "follow XiA'H to the end of the world" if that's what scaling takes.Key Facts: XiA'HDan Cabral (CEO & Co-Founder): https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-cpWebsite: https://www.xiah.com.mx/Headquarters: Monterrey, Mexico What They Do: A biotech ingredient platform that discovers, develops, and scales science-backed active functional ingredients from nature. XiA'H transforms plant biomass into high-value bioactives using precision fermentation and enzyme-based processing (rather than harsh solvents or heat), bridging the gap between science and commercial execution for brands.Funding: Pre-seed round kick-started by an investment from Big Idea Ventures (Global Food Innovation Fund II); currently raising the balance of the pre-seed from angels, VCs, strategics/CVCs, and non-dilutive grants.BlurbXiA'H is proof that world-class deep-tech founders are everywhere — the opportunity just isn't evenly distributed yet. Based in Monterrey and built by a pair of self-described "crazy scientists" (Dan Cabral and his sister), XiA'H uses precision fermentation and enzyme-based processing to turn plant biomass into high-value functional ingredients, standing in the gap between promising science and market-ready product. In an ingredient industry that is powerful but deeply fragmented — where brands want new, natural, functional ingredients already shelf-stable and de-risked — XiA'H compresses a development cycle that normally runs six to ten years down to two or three, and takes an ingredient from discovery to pilot in about twelve weeks.
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  On Ghent's Founder-Friendly Spin-Out Playbook, and Why Lean Beats Big in AgTech- Chiara Guidi, B-COS 05.08.2026 27min

  Episode 117: B-COS: Chiara Guidi on Ghent's Founder-Friendly Spin-Out Playbook, Plant Vaccines Over Pesticides, and Why Lean Beats Big in AgTechIn this episode, I speak with Dr. Chiara Guidi, Co-Founder & CEO of B-COS — a University of Ghent spin-off, incubated at Biotope by VIB, that is building "plant vaccines": carbohydrate bioactives (chito-oligosaccharides) produced by precision fermentation that switch on a crop's own defense system, making it more resilient and cutting the need for chemical pesticides. A year out of academia, Chiara and her team have raised €1M combining VC and grant funding. She gives an unusually candid look at what it takes to commercialize 15 years of university research: how B-COS became the very first company through Ghent's new "Fast Lane" spin-out program — a standardized, founder-friendly deal (low equity, low royalties, a worldwide exclusive perpetual license) that let them incorporate in a month instead of a year — and why a brand-new deal structure that no investor had seen before became one of the trickiest parts of the raise. We dig into how she turned public research into a de-risked asset investors love, how she built commercial traction at pre-seed through 100+ customer conversations, the two-track product strategy (long-horizon crop protection plus faster-to-market biostimulants), the reality of Belgium's grant ecosystem, and a refreshingly disciplined, "lean-and-mean" philosophy on valuation and survival.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear why a spin-out license can hand investors 15 years of de-risked science essentially for free, how B-COS answered the "there's nothing here yet" objection at pre-seed, why you often need funding in hand before you can win a VLAIO grant, how Chiara benchmarks valuation in a market with only five or six possible acquirers, and her answer to the question every deep-tech founder dreads: why won't the giants just crush you?Key Facts: B-COSChiara Guidi (Co-Founder & CEO): https://www.linkedin.com/in/chiara-guidi-Website: b-cos.euHeadquarters: BelgiumWhat They Do: "Plant vaccines" for sustainable crop protection. B-COS uses precision fermentation to produce carbohydrate bioactives (chito-oligosaccharides) that activate a crop's natural defense system — improving resilience against fungal disease, nematodes, and drought stress, and reducing chemical pesticide use. Initial focus crop: Funding: €1M pre-seed (VC + grants), backed by Agri Investment Fund (AIF) and VP Capital, with support from Biotope by VIB, a VLAIO research grant, and EIT (European Institute of Innovation & Technology).BlurbB-COS is built on an elegant idea: instead of spraying crops with chemicals to kill what attacks them, teach the plant to defend itself. Using precision fermentation to brew carbohydrate bioactives — chito-oligosaccharides that act like a vaccine for plants — B-COS switches on a crop's own immune response, building resilience to fungal disease, nematodes, and drought while cutting reliance on synthetic pesticides. Spun out of fifteen years of research at Ghent University and incubated at Biotope by VIB, it is a platform with reach well beyond its first focus crop.
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  Landing a Strategic Corporate Lead, and Structuring University IP - Just Meat Protein 03.08.2026 31min

  Episode 116: Just Meat Protein: Ellie Whelan & Aarti Tobin on Landing a Strategic Corporate Lead, Upcycling Chicken into Whey's Rival, and Structuring University IP That Investors Will BackIn this episode, I speak with the two women behind Just Meat Protein — Ellie Whelan, CEO & Co-Founder, and Dr. Aarti Tobin, Chief Scientific Officer and the scientist behind the technology — fresh off closing a A$1.8M seed round. Just Meat Protein takes low-value cuts of meat and turns them into high-value, nutrient-dense ingredients: their hydrolysed chicken protein powder (ProPepta) is roughly 90% protein, highly soluble, clear in solution, and allergen-free — an alternative to whey protein isolate arriving right as whey prices spike and supply tightens. Ellie walks us through how their lead investor, poultry giant Ingham's Enterprises, came out of a multi-year R&D relationship that began while the tech was still a project inside CSIRO — a strategic partner that both supplies the raw material and shares the circular-economy vision. We get into the real objections they faced (plant-based skeptics, the "meat in my cookies-and-cream" consumer perception question, and scale-up manufacturing risk), and Dr. Tobin gives a masterclass in how a scientist earns an investor's confidence on scale-up. Then Ellie breaks down two things founders rarely explain well: how they structured CSIRO's IP as a license-for-royalty (keeping the research org off the cap table) and how Australian matching grants stack on top of a closed round.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear how a low-value poultry cut worth $1–2/kg becomes a $40+/kg ingredient, why whey's price surge and supply shortage are a tailwind, Dr. Tobin's answer to "how do you know it scales?", the bare-bones fundraising stack (a Canva deck and a Microsoft Teams data room), and the exclusive-worldwide-license-with-assignment-triggers structure that made investors comfortable with university-born IP.Key Facts: Just Meat ProteinEllie Whelan (CEO & Co-Founder): https://www.linkedin.com/in/elliewhelanDr. Aarti Tobin (CSO & Co-Founder): https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarti-tobin-82a121141Headquarter: AustraliaWhat They Do: Upcycle low-value meat cuts (poultry) into high-value, nutrient-dense protein ingredients. Flagship product ProPepta is a hydrolysed chicken protein powder — ~90% protein, highly soluble (stays in solution up to ~60%), clear in solution, and allergen-free — positioned as a whey protein isolate alternative for sports nutrition, functional foods, beverages, and specialized/aged-care nutrition.Funding: A$1.8M seed round, led by strategic corporate investor Ingham's Enterprises (Australia's largest poultry producer), which invested A$1.05M for a ~10% stake. Ingham's is both an equity partner and a raw-material supplier.BlurbJUST MEAT PROTEIN is built on a simple, powerful piece of arithmetic: a poultry cut worth a dollar or two a kilo can become a protein ingredient worth forty-plus. Born from four years of research inside CSIRO, the company's hydrolysed chicken protein — ProPepta — hits roughly 90% protein while solving problems whey can't: it stays soluble at high concentrations, runs clear in solution for protein waters and beverages, and is allergen-free. It arrives at an ideal moment, as whey prices climb and supply tightens, and as demand for high-protein foods surges across sports nutrition, functional foods, and GLP-1-era nutrition. It is upcycling as a business model — more value from every animal, and a genuine circular-economy story.
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  On Crossing to the Other Side of the Table, & Off-Take Agreements Over LOIs-Darko Mandich, gener8tor 29.07.2026 33min

  Episode 115: BEAM Circular Accelerator (Powered by gener8tor): Darko Mandich on Crossing to the Other Side of the Table, Off-Take Agreements Over LOIs, and Turning Almond Waste into a BioeconomyIn this episode, I catch up with my friend Darko Mandich — Managing Director of the BEAM Circular Accelerator (Powered by gener8tor) and Ag Practice Chair at gener8tor — for a rare look at fundraising from the investor's seat. Darko knows both sides intimately: he built and exited MeliBio, the bee-free honey pioneer (acquired by Switzerland's FoodYoung Labs), and has now crossed the table to back early-stage founders turning agricultural waste into value. He shares what genuinely surprised him about the investor side — how many internal "yeses" it takes to cut a single check, and why founder patience is so misunderstood — and makes a passionate case that the founders winning in 2026 are commercially driven, not science driven, doing far more with far less. We dig into why LOIs no longer cut it (investors now want signed off-take agreements), how gener8tor and BEAM Circular are attacking the CapEx barrier head-on by building a shared California Bioeconomy Innovation Campus in Modesto, and why California's Central Valley — with 80% of the world's almonds and mountains of hulls and shells — is one of the best launchpads on earth for the circular bioeconomy.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear the single biggest mistake founders make when following up with investors (and the "keep delighting us with news" approach that works instead), why aggressive AI-generated outreach lands you in the spam folder, how building in public and authenticity get investors to source you, what BEAM Circular looks for in an applicant, and the incentives that make the Central Valley — not just San Francisco — a place to scale.Key Facts: BEAM Circular Accelerator (Powered by gener8tor)Darko Mandich: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darkomandichWebsites: gener8tor.com · beamcircular.orgProgram Base: Modesto, California Focus: Early- to mid-stage startups in biomanufacturing, waste transformation, and circular solutions across agriculture and natural resources — turning agricultural side streams (e.g., almond hulls and shells) into materials, fuels, ingredients, and chemicals.Support (per company): ~$100K in combined support — a $15K non-dilutive grant, a $35K investment, and $50K in California Bioeconomy Innovation Campus credits — plus mentorship and partner perks. BlurbThe BEAM CIRCULAR ACCELERATOR, powered by gener8tor, is built on a bet about geography and timing: that the next wave of the bioeconomy won't be built only in San Francisco or Boston, but in places like California's Central Valley — where 80% of the world's almonds are grown, and where the hulls, shells, and side streams once treated as waste are becoming feedstock for materials, fuels, ingredients, and chemicals. In partnership with the Modesto nonprofit BEAM Circular, the program pairs small, concierge cohorts with a shared California Bioeconomy Innovation Campus designed to remove the single biggest killer of deep-tech startups — CapEx — so founders don't have to burn venture dollars building their own pilot facilities.
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  Raising Friends-and-Family in a Frozen Market & Giving a VC Goosebumps in 5-Mins - Saku Biosciences 27.07.2026 29min

  Episode 114: Saku Biosciences: Mark van Zee on Raising Friends-and-Family in a Frozen Market, Betting on the Jockey, and Giving a VC Goosebumps in Five MinutesIn this episode, I sit down with Mark van Zee, Co-Founder & CEO of Saku Biosciences, who just closed a $940K round with Big Idea Ventures coming in as the institutional lead. It's a refreshingly different conversation for this show — instead of a later-stage playbook, Mark takes us all the way back to the very first checks, and how you actually raise when the market is frozen. Saku started fundraising two weeks after the tariff announcement that sent institutional capital "to zero," so Mark and his co-founder John got scrappy: friends-and-family checks of $5K–$100K that triggered a "pile-on" chain reaction, plus capital from a non-obvious private institution that took a year of relationship-building and ultimately saved the company. Mark reframes friends-and-family money not as a source of anxiety but as motivation — a commitment "in blood" — and makes the case that early-stage investing is betting on the jockey, not the horse. We close on one of the best fundraising stories I've heard: how the Saku team reverse-engineered exactly what Big Idea Ventures' decision-maker was looking for ("something that gives me goosebumps") and built a five-minute narrative to deliver it.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear why fundraising is more like dating than a transaction, how to unlock non-obvious capital that isn't promoted anywhere, why you sell to the associate and the partner completely differently, how Mark turned "I ride my bike to college classes at fourteen" into a goosebumps pitch, and why nobody in food tech has cracked the scalable-company code yet — but the wave is coming.Key Facts: Saku BiosciencesMark van Zee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-van-zee-089910154Website: sakubio.comHeadquarters: Los Angeles, CaliforniaFunding: $940K round (SAFE), with Big Idea Ventures as institutional lead (Global Food Innovation Fund II) — following a friends-and-family raise and capital from a private institutional source.BlurbSAKU BIOSCIENCES exists to fix a quiet but expensive failure in biomanufacturing: the strains companies screen in the lab are optimized for the lab, not for the fermentation tank they'll actually run in. That mismatch produces false positives, wasted scale-up campaigns, and stubbornly poor unit economics. Saku's PicoShells platform — hollow, porous hydrogel particles that isolate millions of strain variants and let them be tested under true bioreactor conditions — lets producers select for real-world manufacturing performance, and get to the cost parity that fermentation needs to displace incumbent animal- and plant-derived inputs.
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  Treating Every Investor as "One Shot," Selling w/o Selling, and Fundraising as a Probability Matrix 22.07.2026 28min

  Episode 113: Rainbow Crops: Giacomo Bastianelli on Treating Every Investor as "One Shot," Selling Without Selling, and Fundraising as a Probability MatrixIn this episode, I welcome back Giacomo Bastianelli, Co-Founder & CEO of Rainbow Crops — and one of the first founders to return to the podcast, because eighteen months ago we were talking about his pre-seed, and today he's just closed a €9.7M seed round plus a $7M grant from the Gates Foundation. Rainbow Crops is a VIB spin-off out of Ghent developing next-generation crop genetics, combining precision breeding, multiplex genome editing, and AI to tackle the complex, multi-gene traits — yield, stress resilience — that a single-gene approach can't touch. Giacomo walks us through how he ran the raise like a disciplined operator: preparing the seed materials before the pre-seed even closed, building a manually curated 60-name investor funnel in Trello, and treating every first interaction as a single shot he couldn't waste. He explains why his lead investor, Turin-based LIFTT, was nowhere on that list — and why doing the work is exactly what opens you up to that kind of serendipity. Along the way we get into a genuinely different take on persuasion for deep tech: honesty as a sales strategy, presenting risk as a probability matrix, and why the best salespeople never actually sell.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear why Giacomo built his own pitch deck instead of hiring an agency (and when a "polisher" makes sense), how he structured a results deck that lands for both non-technical investors and PhD experts, why you should pitch your tier-two and tier-three investors first, how he used a probabilistic model to talk investors through regulatory and patent risk, and the "tip of the iceberg" principle behind a deck that could survive real due diligence.Key Facts: Rainbow CropsGiacomo Bastianelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/giacomobWebsite: rainbowcrops.comHeadquarters: Ghent, BelgiumFunding: €9.7M seed round led by LIFTT (with LIFTT EuroInvest), alongside AIF, PINC, VIB, Corteva (via Corteva Catalyst), and Maia Ventures — plus a separate $7M grant from the Gates Foundation for climate-resilient corn and sorghum.BlurbRAINBOW CROPS is built on a hard genetic truth: the traits that matter most in agriculture — yield, drought tolerance, climate resilience — are almost never controlled by a single gene. They emerge from networks of genes interacting at once, which is precisely why they've resisted decades of conventional breeding and single-edit biotech. Rainbow Crops attacks that complexity head-on with its Trait Foundry™ platform, pairing multiplex genome editing with AI and automated phenotyping to search enormous combinatorial spaces and engineer the multi-gene traits that older tools simply can't reach.
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  On Treating the Raise Like a Sales Process, 110-Slide Data Room, & Turning Complex Into Compelling 20.07.2026 38min

  Episode 112: Michroma & We Are Palta: Ricky Cassini and Alan Valicenti on Treating the Raise Like a Sales Process, the 110-Slide Data Room, and Turning Complex Into CompellingIn this episode, I sit down with two Argentinians who have been building together for almost six years: Ricky Cassini, Co-Founder & CEO of Michroma, the precision-fermentation startup making natural food colors from fungi, and Alan Valicenti, Partner & Chief Growth Officer of We Are Palta, the design-and-marketing agency built for science-driven deep-tech companies. It is a rare, candid look at what it actually costs — in dollars, in time, and in discipline — to make a deep-tech company look as serious as its science. Ricky breaks down how Michroma rebuilt its entire data room into roughly 110 professionally designed slides — carved into a teaser deck plus dedicated decks for market opportunity, the platform, the ingredients, regulatory, IP, team and advisory board, and techno-economics/manufacturing — and how that data room helped oversubscribe a $5M target into a $6.4M seed that investors said "looked like a Series B." Alan pulls back the curtain on how We Are Palta scopes and prices the work, why "subtracting" is the highest-value skill in an age of AI slop, and how one professional photoshoot and brochure flipped Michroma from radio silence to inbound sample requests — without changing the product at all.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear why Alex argues founders should budget roughly 10% of a raise toward actually raising it, why an in-house designer can't replace a multidisciplinary team that understands both biotech and what investors need to see, how We Are Palta turned a 110-slide master deck into five reusable decks plus website and commercial assets, why colorants that don't change taste still command a premium (and what that says about design), and the three questions every founder should ask before hiring an agency.Key Facts: MichromaRicky Cassini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassinir/Website: michroma.coHeadquarters: San Francisco, California and ArgentinaWhat They Do: A precision-fermentation platform using fungal "biofactories" to produce natural food colors and flavors — led by the heat- and pH-stable natural red designed to replace synthetic Red 40.Funding: ~$8M raised to date, anchored by a $6.4M seed round that oversubscribed an original $5M target (led by Supply Change Capital, with SOSV/IndieBio and a deep syndicate of strategic and food-industry investors).Key Facts: We Are PaltaAlan Valicenti: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanvalicenti/Website: wearepalta.comHeadquarters: Argentina (operating globally)BlurbMICHROMA is built on a stubborn technical problem the food industry has never fully solved: natural colors tend to fall apart. They fade, shift, or break down under the heat, light, and pH swings of real manufacturing, which is why so much of the world's food supply still leans on petroleum-derived synthetic dyes like Red 40. Michroma's answer is biology. Using fungal "biofactories" and precision fermentation, the company brews natural colorants — starting with a heat- and pH-stable red — that are designed to survive the processing line and match the performance food makers expect from synthetics, at a cost that can compete rather than command a sustainability premium. 
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  On Out-Scoping University Research, Techno-Economics, and Avoiding False Assumptions- Elissa, Twynam 08.07.2026 19min

  Episode 111: Twynam Management: Elissa Glorie on Out-Scoping University Research, Techno-Economics, and Avoiding False AssumptionsIn this episode, I catch up with Elissa Glorie, Investment Manager at Twynam, a deeply specialized venture capital firm focused on early-stage global decarbonization. Elissa gives us an exclusive look behind the scenes of their thesis-driven investment engine, detailing how their team converts macroeconomic signals into actionable deep-tech bets. She walks us through Twynam’s recent high-profile follow-on into PlasmaLeap Technologies’ $20M USD (~A$30M) Series A, a round alongside the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and global nitrogen giant Yara Growth Ventures. Elissa breaks down their precise, gated due diligence playbook and provides critical advice on why the vast majority of deep-tech deals fall apart under the microscope of realistic technoeconomic models.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear how Twynam’s internal AI tools scrape academic research before ideas even reach a corporate desk, why a CEO must possess the technical depth to cross-examine their CTO, and how Twynam evaluates decentralized, non-thermal plasma architectures against the centuries-old Haber-Bosch process.Key Facts: TwynamElissa Glorie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elissaglorie/Website: twynam.comHeadquarter: Australia and SingaporeGeographic Mandate: Structurally built for true global deployment—actively tracking and backing winners across the US, India, and Southeast Asia, alongside a dedicated side-vehicle exclusively for the Chinese mainland.Investment Sweet Spot: Pre-Seed through Series B, with standard, high-conviction initial checks scaling up to $3M USD.BlurbTWYNAM operates on a central, pragmatic insight: the global economy will not decarbonize out of moral virtue alone—it will decarbonize when clean technologies become undeniably better, faster, and cheaper than fossil incumbents. Rooted in decades of handling real physical assets like heavy industrial farming and mining loops, Twynam takes a rigorous, numbers-first approach to climate tech.Their team spends half their time building highly detailed, forward-looking theses that anticipate structural bottlenecks before mainstream venture markets spot them. By utilizing custom-built AI discovery pipelines to scan global research data, Twynam uncovers breakthrough chemistry, engineering, and thermal physics plays at the university level, giving them a distinct first-mover advantage as an early institutional partner.
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  On Surviving the Long Game, and Renegotiating a "No" - Sérgio Pinto, Cellva Ingredients 06.07.2026 24min

  Episode 110: Cellva Ingredients: Sérgio Pinto on Surviving the Long Game, Renegotiating a "No," and Upcycling Coffee Side-StreamsIn this episode, I sit down with Sérgio Pinto, the unyielding founder and CEO of Cellva Ingredients, who shares one of the most intense, relentless fundraising stories you will ever hear. Sérgio reveals how he turned a critical, last-minute "no" into a 20 million Reais (~$4M USD) Pre-Series A round led by Amazonian corporate-backed tech powerhouse Digiboard. He outlines the operational complexities of straddling Brazil’s commercial epicenter in São Paulo and its rugged robusta coffee infrastructure in Manaus. Sérgio also takes us deep into the underlying regulatory strategies and unit economics driving Kafkoa—their high-margin, functional cocoa substitute derived entirely from upcycled coffee side-streams.🎧 Listen to the full episode to discover how Sérgio rescued a dead deal just ten days after his second child was born, how Cellva navigated European and Japanese regulatory pathways without novel food classification, and how they built an integrated network of over 150 local coffee farmers.Key Facts: Cellva IngredientsSérgio Pinto: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sergiorpinto/Website: cellva.comHeadquarter: São Paulo, BrazilFunding: Closed a 20 million Reais (~$4M USD) Pre-Series A round.Investor: Round led by DigiBoard, with additional participation from existing backers such as Air Capital and angel investors like Rubens Pereira BlurbCELLVA INGREDIENTS is redefining circular nutrition by turning Brazil’s massive agricultural side-streams into premium, high-value functional ingredients. While traditionally known for cell-cultivated fat development, Cellva has rapidly scaled a market-ready infrastructure that utilizes micro-encapsulation to transform coffee husks and byproducts into Kafkoa, a multi-tiered structural substitute for cocoa.By operating directly in the Amazonian robusta coffee corridors, Cellva secures low-cost raw materials while creating sustainable employment for remote farming populations. This distinct environmental mandate provides a unique competitive edge, allowing Cellva to unlock regional state-backed funds, build a resilient supply chain of over 150 local growers, and establish a clear path toward processing thousands of tons annually.
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  On "Agtech 2.0," Managing Smart Capital Stacks, and Scaling via OEMs- Liron Yanay, AgriPass Robotics 01.07.2026 27min

  Episode 109: AgriPass Robotics: Liron Yanay on "Agtech 2.0," Managing Smart Capital Stacks, and Scaling via OEMs In this episode, I catch up with Liron Yanay, CEO of AgriPass Robotics, an innovative agtech startup that recently closed a $7.5M Seed round. Liron details their journey from their initial pre-seed and matching grants with the Israel Innovation Authority to locking in Harbor Venture Consulting and E44 Climate as key institutional backers. Liron outlines what she calls "Agtech 2.0"—a disciplined philosophy that avoids building hardware from scratch, focusing instead on proprietary AI and contextual intelligence. She shares incredible, practical advice on managing data rooms, building detailed financial projections, and bypassing standard agtech pitfalls through strategic partnerships with global Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs).🎧 Listen to the full episode to learn how Liron leveraged specialized video updates to maintain deep investor trust, why targeting mid-sized farms beats chasing 18-month enterprise sales cycles, and how to successfully structure blended project financing for hardware tech.Key Facts: AgriPass RoboticsLiron Yanay: https://il.linkedin.com/in/liron-cohen-yanayWebsite: https://www.agripass.co/Funding: Recently closed a $7.5M Seed round (incorporating matching non-dilutive grants from the Israel Innovation Authority).Core Backers: Led by Harbor Venture Consulting (representing premier US and Latin American family offices) alongside E44 Climate.The Mission: Eradicating weed pressure in open-field agriculture through human-inspired, multi-handed mechanical weeding robots driven by real-time contextual intelligence.BlurbAGRIPASS ROBOTICS is pioneering the "Agtech 2.0" wave by engineering an affordable, high-precision mechanical weed control system. Rather than continuing the traditional chemical warfare of spraying or resetting soil biomes through destructive tilling, AgriPass utilizes human-inspired AI to mimic manual weeding at a massive scale. By deploying up to 20 mechanical "hands" governed by real-time spatial vision, their automated system selectively uproots weeds without harming nearby crops or disrupting the soil's organic carbon structure.
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  On Bypassing "Grant Traps" & the Art of Professional Pre-Seed Agtech Strategy - Arnout, Rockstart 30.06.2026 25min

  Episode 108: Rockstart: Arnout Dijkhuizen on Bypassing "Grant Traps" and the Art of Professional Pre-Seed Agtech Strategy In this episode, I sit down with Arnout Dijkhuizen, Principal at Rockstart, a leading early-stage accelerator-vanguard and venture capital fund anchored out of Amsterdam and Copenhagen. Arnout, an agtech investing veteran, opens up about what it truly means to deploy professional capital into pre-seed startups. He explains why Rockstart prioritizes founder "coachability" and deeply grounded industry insights over dense financial plans, and breaks down the exact mechanics behind their selective €100k–€150k initial check model. He also drops some hard truths regarding the European funding landscape, warning founders about the subtle dangers of falling into "grant traps" that can turn a commercial business into a slow-moving, administrative vehicle.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear Arnout explain how they helped guide the Indian marketplace Tractor Junction all the way to its massive later-stage rounds, why an exit doesn't need to cross the unicorn threshold to achieve superior venture returns, and how physical AI is optimization-proofing legacy systems like industrial slaughterhouses.Key Facts: RockstartArnout Dijkhuizen: be.linkedin.com/in/arnoutdijkhuizenWebsites: rockstart.comRegional Base: Active physical hubs in Amsterdam, Netherlands, and Copenhagen, Denmark.Target Profile: The ultimate first institutional capital in a company's life cycle. Primarily focused on North-Western Europe but structurally built to back elite teams globally, with active portfolio winners in the US and India.The Math: Deploying €100k to €150k initial checks at the ultra-early, pre-seed junction. Crucially, Rockstart reserves significant capital to protect, defend, and follow on their positions directly up through Series A.BlurbROCKSTART operates on the unwavering principle that founders are the true rockstars of modern industry, positioning the fund as an embedded operational engine rather than a passive source of capital. Investing at the absolute beginning of an architectural idea—frequently partnering with founders fresh out of research labs or native family operations—Rockstart pairs rapid, multi-week investment decisions with an expansive, a-la-carte network of mentors, commercial architects, and agricultural experts.
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  On Why Execution-First Models Beat Capex-Heavy Tech - Alberto Criado, Cardumen Capital 25.06.2026 27min

  Episode 107: Cardumen Capital: Alberto Criado on Why Execution-First Models Beat Capex-Heavy Tech and the Rise of "Coffee-as-a-Service"In this episode, I sit down with Alberto Criado, Principal at Cardumen Capital, an elite European venture capital firm that has rapidly scaled its assets under management from €50M to nearly €400M. Alberto walks us through Cardumen's highly opportunistic and execution-driven approach to the AgriFoodTech sector. He reveals the math behind their recent investment in Barcelona-based Incapto, explaining how they are completely dismantling the single-use coffee capsule market through an innovative "Coffee-as-a-Service" subscription model. Alberto also pulls back the curtain on portfolio risk management in a capital-scarce environment, discussing why clear exit viability, predictable recurrence, and fast tracks to profitability rule the market today over purely binary technology risks.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear Alberto break down why Starbucks isn’t specialty coffee, how they reverse-engineer target exit valuations between €250M and €500M, and how Cardumen uses its dedicated M&A and value-creation teams to act as a true service company for its entrepreneurs.Key Facts: Cardumen CapitalAlberto Criado: https://www.linkedin.com/in/albertocriadom/?locale=enWebsite: cardumencapital.comHeadquarters: Madrid, Spain and Tel Aviv, Israel.Goal: Investing in deep tech, cybersecurity, AI, and AgriFoodTech pioneers across Europe and Israel, actively managing a high-performing portfolio of over 40 companies (including alternative protein leaders like Oshi).Ticket Size & Strategy: Deploying €500k to €1M initial tickets across Europe and the entire food value chain. Structurally flexible, acting primarily as an intensely supportive follow-on investor that strives to be the most active partner on the cap table..BlurbCARDUMEN CAPITAL is an active, cross-border European venture capital firm that avoids rigid, immovable investment theses in favor of agile, opportunistic execution. Recognizing the harsh funding climate facing capital-intensive food tech sectors like precision fermentation, Cardumen strategically balances its portfolio with high-margin, highly recurrent, and low-capex businesses that solve concrete bottleneck inefficiencies for modern enterprises. 
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  On Why Vertical SaaS Still Rules in the Era of AI - Nils Eiteneyer, Capnamic 23.06.2026 22min

  Episode 106: Capnamic: Nils Eiteneyer on Spotting "Unsexy" Multi-Decade Themes and Why Vertical SaaS Still Rules in the Era of AIIn this episode, I sit down with Nils Eiteneyer, Partner at Capnamic, a premier early-stage venture capital firm based in Germany. Nils brings his background as an ex-operator and McKinsey advisor to explain Capnamic's rigorous approach to early-stage investing through their fourth fund. He shares a masterclass on navigating the intersection of deep tech and structural pressure, explaining why "unsexy" agricultural problems offer the biggest market opportunities, how to build a defensible data moat against big tech, and why the current AgriFood funding winter is actually creating the highest-quality, economically resilient companies we've seen in years.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear Nils break down the mechanics of vertical software integrations, why horizontal SaaS is exposed to AI democratization, and how Capnamic collaborates intensely with a select handful of founders each year to build the next generation of category leaders.Key Facts: CapnamicNils Eiteneyer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-nils-eiteneyer/Website: capnamic.comHeadquarters: Cologne, Berlin, and Munich, Germany.Goal: Backing category-defining B2B tech, deep tech, and early-stage infrastructure startups from the German-speaking region (DACH) and broader Europe.Investment Profile: Investing out of their fourth fund (~$215M / €190M+). They enter early as a lead or co-lead investor, moving deliberately and selectively by backing only 4 to 6 new companies per year to maintain intense, close partnerships.Ticket Size & Ownership: Typically €2M–€3M initially (ranging from €500k for pre-seed up to €5M–€6M for late Series A). They structurally target ~15% ownership to satisfy fund-return mathematics across generations.BlurbCAPNAMIC is a powerhouse European early-stage venture capital firm designed around hyper-selective concentration and hands-on operational support. Rather than spreading capital thinly, Capnamic purposefully caps its new annual investments to ensure its partners can act as embedded allies to founders.
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  On Why Family Offices Beat VCs in the Hard-Tech Winter - Jaap Zijlstra, Navus 17.06.2026 23min

  Episode 105: Navus: Jaap Zijlstra on Why "Process Tech" is the Missing Link in Scaling AgriFood and Why Family Offices Beat VCs in the Hard-Tech WinterIn this episode, I sit down with Jaap Zijlstra, representing Navus, a Dutch family office-backed venture firm. Unlike traditional VCs, Navus leverages the technical heritage of a world-leading dairy robotics family to build clusters of sustainable food and energy companies. Jaap explains why the "AgriFood winter" is not a death knell for innovation, but a necessary maturation phase that favors patient capital over hyper-speed software models. We deep-dive into why Navus doubles down on process technology and hardware-enabled IP (like their investment in Cosaic), and why agriculture will always follow the laws of physics, not the speed of software deployment.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear Jaap’s candid take on why family offices are the natural home for hardware-heavy biotech, how they leverage in-house patent offices to vet deep-tech, and why they prioritize "real-world" adoption cycles over "get-rich-quick" exit timelines.Key Facts: NavusJaap Zijlstra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaap-zijlstra-48b69319/Website: https://navusholding.com/Headquarters: NetherlandsGoal: To build clusters of successful tech companies in sustainable food and energy, leveraging the family's deep-rooted experience in global machinery and robotics.Investment Profile: Roughly 25 portfolio companies. Invests from the family office balance sheet (not a traditional fund), allowing for multi-stage, multi-year holding periods. Ticket sizes vary from $1M–$2M (Seed/Series A) to significantly more for private equity-style deals.BlurbNAVUS is a Dutch family office-backed investment vehicle specializing in controlled environment agriculture, robotics, automation, and alternative ingredient production technology. By operating outside the constraints of a standard 7-to-10-year fund cycle, they provide the "patient capital" required to navigate the harsh realities of physical-world agriculture and energy hardware.
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  On Navigating a 14-Month Biotech Seed Round & Making Whole Milk from Mammary Cells- Opalia: Jennifer 10.06.2026 31min

  Episode 103: Opalia: Jennifer Côté on Navigating a 14-Month Biotech Seed Round and Making Whole Milk from Mammary CellsIn this episode, I sit down with Jennifer Côté, CEO and Co-Founder of Opalia, a Montreal-based biotechnology company pioneering animal-free dairy by producing real whole milk from bovine mammary cells. Jennifer shares a transparent, reality-check account of what it takes to close a $3.2M CAD Seed round in the challenging 2026 funding climate. She breaks down the technical differentiation that separates cellular dairy from the struggling cultivated meat sector, explains how to leverage non-dilutive government grants, and details the grueling process of filtering a pipeline of 400 investors down to a committed, high-quality cap table.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear Jennifer’s take on building a "Type A" hyper-transparent data room, how she fields macro environmental objections, and why real transparency beats over-inflated hype when partnering with sector-specific venture capital.Key Facts: OpaliaJennifer Côté: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-cote/Website: opaliafoods.comHeadquarters: Montreal, Canada.Goal: To eliminate the intensive global reliance on cattle by manufacturing authentic whole milk (with matching functional proteins, fats, and taste) using a highly capital-efficient, mammalian cell-based bioreactor system.Milestone: Raised $6M CAD total over 6 years (with remarkable capital efficiency compared to peers raising hundreds of millions) and recently closed the first $3.2M CAD tranche of their Seed round.BlurbOPALIA is a Canadian cellular agriculture company pioneering a new era of sustainable dairy. Instead of using precision fermentation (yeast/bacteria) or slaughtering animals for cultivated meat, Opalia isolates mammary gland cells from cows just once and initiates lactation continuously inside custom, low-cost bioreactor vessels.
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  On the Strength of the Syndicate Model and De-Risking AgriFood Investing - Branch Venture Group 08.06.2026 34min

  Episode 102: Branch Venture Group: Lauren Abda on the Strength of the Syndicate Model and De-Risking AgriFood InvestingIn this episode, I sit down with Lauren Abda, Co-Founder of Branch Venture Group, a Boston-based angel investment network and syndicate deployed heavily into the future of food. Lauren delivers a masterclass on why the syndicate model has outperformed traditional mega-funds during the current "AgriFood winter," explaining how pairing early-stage founders with highly strategic operators creates durable competitive moats. We discuss the shifting macroeconomic landscape, why food infrastructure remains dramatically undercapitalized despite essential demand, and how Lauren leverages a 10-year-old vetting process to filter thousands of inbound deals into 29 high-performing investments.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear Lauren’s take on uncovering "unfair advantages" in early-stage startups, the unique acquisition dynamics of top food corporations, and how she manages the psychological grit required to back unconventional innovation before consensus forms.Key Facts: Branch Venture GroupLauren Abda: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenabda/Website: https://www.branchventuregroup.com/Headquarters: Boston, Massachusetts.Goal: To back the brightest founders building the future of the food system, delivering venture-scale returns by combining visionary innovation with strict operational discipline.Milestone: Over a decade in the space; 29 unique investments made since 2017. The portfolio boasts two unicorns, multiple markups, and nearly half (50%) of the portfolio is currently cash-flow break-even.BlurbBRANCH VENTURE GROUP is an angel investment network and syndicate specializing in early-stage food and agriculture innovation. Evolving out of Branch Food—a premier Boston-based innovation platform—the syndicate serves as a bridge between early-stage founders and a powerful network of experienced industry operators, executives, and strategic partners.
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  On why the "Plant-Based Meat" thesis failed & pivoting a $50M fund to Defense Tech - Champel Capital 04.06.2026 45min

  Episode 102: Champel Capital: Amir Weitmann on why the "Plant-Based Meat" thesis failed and pivoting a $50M fund to Defense Tech In this episode, I sit down with Amir Weitmann, Managing Partner at Champel Capital, an Israeli venture fund that deployed heavily into FoodTech across its first two funds (backing standouts like Remilk and Aleph Farms). Amir delivers a brutally honest post-mortem on the alternative protein sector, explaining exactly why Champel avoided investing in plant-based meat companies like Beyond Meat, opting instead for breakthrough Deep Tech. We discuss the shifting macroeconomic landscape that caused FoodTech funding to collapse to 15% of its 2021 peak, and why Champel's upcoming third fund is pivoting entirely away from AgriFood into Defense and Security. 🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear Amir’s unapologetic take on why ESG should be about human prosperity, not "worshipping Mother Earth," and the terrifying psychological burden of managing LP money. Key Facts Champel Capital:Amir Weitmann: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirweitmann/Website: champelcapital.comHeadquarters: IsraelGoal: To deliver outsized venture returns (targeting 5x fund return / 25%-35% IRR) by backing true technological breakthroughs, transitioning from early FoodTech investments into Defense and Security.Milestone: Raised over $50 million across two funds, backing major FoodTech players like Remilk and Aleph Farms, and is currently actively fundraising for Fund III.BlurbCHAMPEL CAPITAL is a Swiss venture capital firm specializing in Israeli deep tech — physical-world innovation over software-only plays. They back founders building defensible, hard-to-commoditize technologies across defense & security, medtech, insurtech, watertech, foodtech, agritech, and mobility. Investment thesis centers on three pillars: exceptional founders with genuine market vision, deep tech with durable competitive moats, and large addressable markets. Stage and check size not specified; primary value proposition is serving as a gateway between European capital and Israel's startup ecosystem.