Housing Insiders

The Intersection of Capital Markets & Housing: Dynex Capital's Byron Boston & Smriti Popenoe on the Role of REITs (Real Estate Investment Trusts) 30.06.2026 1h 1min

Dynex Capital Chairman & Co-CEO Byron Boston and Co-CEO & President Smriti Popenoe join Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat the intersection of capital markets & housing, and the role of REITs (real estate investment trusts). Dynex Capital proudly leads the way in mortgage real estate investing, turning residential & commercial real estate into powerful drivers of compelling yields. Hear their dynamic sitting between savers & spenders, how they've managed risk & growth through a variety of market cycles, the key metrics to consider when it comes to capital markets & housing, what many people misunderstand about mortgage rates, and the biggest changes happening now and in the future in the housing finance world. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform

Real Estate Agents Aren't Going Away: eXp Realty's Leo Pareja on the Real Estate Brokerage World 15.06.2026 46min

eXp Realty CEO Leo Pareja joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat why real estate agents aren't going anywhere anytime soon, plus the latest happenings in the real estate brokerage world. eXp Realty is the largest independent real estate brokerage in the world. Hear what's actually happening with pocket listings, how the real estate agent experience is changing with technology, what's still misunderstood about real estate agents, where complexity could be better handled in the real estate world, and how he would build wealth as a 25-year-old American today. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform

Looking Back at The Year Ahead in Housing: Revisiting Our 2025 Recap & 2026 Predictions for the Housing Industry 01.06.2026 1h 17min

We're almost halfway through 2026. What did we get right? What did we get wrong? What would've been impossible for us to predict? What should we be thinking about for the 2nd half of 2026? These are the questions Jeremy answers to start off this special look back at our 2025 recap & 2026 predictions for the housing industry, originally released in early January 2026. Enjoy! Another crazy year, another crazy year in the housing industry. In this special episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan & Jeremy look back at how their 2025 housing predictions fared and reveal their housing predictions for 2026. Hear what excites them about innovation in the housing industry, how AI will impact lending this year, the housing policy changes that may or may not finally happen, a lightning round of housing takes on real estate & offsite construction, and an impressive amount of Scarlett Johansson shoutouts. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform

Making Modular Housing Actually Work: Cloud Apartments' Apoorva Pasricha on Beating the Odds with Modular Multifamily Development 18.05.2026 53min

Cloud Apartments Chief Operating Officer Apoorva Pasricha joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat using tech, partners, and a smart business model to provide an enduring solution for modular housing. Cloud Apartments reduces the cost of multifamily development through intelligent modular design & delivery. Hear why many modular housing companies fail, where their time & cost savings come from, what's unique about the American housing supply chain, how we can improve housing as an economic engine, and how to solve big complex problems like housing & autonomous vehicles. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform

Baby Bust, Housing Bust: Author & Washington Examiner's Tim Carney on How America Became Family Unfriendly 04.05.2026 56min

Author, Washington Examiner Senior Political Columnist, and American Enterprise Institute (AEI) Senior Fellow Tim Carney joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat the ties between the baby bust & housing crisis in the US. Tim's latest book is Family Unfriendly: How Our Culture Made Raising Kids Much Harder Than It Needs to Be. Hear whether the baby bust is a housing issue at its core, the perception that parenting is so hard & miserable, the ideal housing setup for families, the practicality of creative housing solutions like shared equity, and how the future of housing can improve the loneliness crisis. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform

As Goes Detroit, So Goes the Nation: Gilbert Family Foundation & Rocket Community Fund's Laura Grannemann on Housing Lessons from the Motor City 20.04.2026 44min

Gilbert Family Foundation & Rocket Community Fund Executive Director Laura Grannemann joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss housing lessons for the US based on their work in Detroit. The Gilbert Family Foundation (GFF) exists to accelerate a cure for NF1 and grow opportunity and equity in Detroit and our home cities, and the Rocket Community Fund aims to simplify complex and inequitable systems to ensure that every American has access to stable, healthy housing. Hear her clouds & dirt strategy when it comes to housing in Detroit, why Detroit is such an indicator for the health of the national housing industry, how they're reinvigorating Detroit from a residential standpoint, what often holds back cities in the Midwest, and what needs to happen next for the sake of Detroit, Cleveland, and other cities of the Next Belt. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform.

Disrupting the Real Estate Agent Segment with AI: Homa's Arman Javaherian on How to Win as a Housing Startup 06.04.2026 46min

Homa CEO & Co-Founder Arman Javaherian - a former Senior Director at Zillow - joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss disrupting the real estate agent segment with AI. Homa replaces the traditional buyer's agent, combining AI with expert support while returning up to 2% of the purchase price back. They allow you to buy a home without a realtor. Hear why there historically hasn't been much disruption when it comes to real estate agents, how to create more awareness for your solution as a housing startup, whether we'll ever get to the point of AI agents working out deals with AI agents, how to create a better experience for homebuyers, and what else needs to change in the housing industry. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Bonus Episode: Talking Trump's Executive Orders on Housing with Mindset's Jeb Mason 23.03.2026 44min

And just like that, we're back with a Bonus Episode covering more breaking news in housing! In this episode of Housing Insiders, returning guest Jeb Mason of public policy consultancy Mindset joins Jonathan & Jeremy to break down Trump's 2 executive orders related to housing affordability & mortgage credit. Hear what inspired these 2 executive orders in the first place, the impact they'll have on housing supply & home prices, who has the potential to be the major players in the mortgage industry going forward, a look at regulation & deregulation in the housing industry, and whether you can truly impact the future of housing as a startup in the space. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

21st Century ROAD to Housing Act: Baker Donelson's Kara Ward on What's Next for Housing Supply 16.03.2026 50min

Baker Donelson Shareholder Kara Ward joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act, which the Senate recently passed. Hear the most impactful provisions in the bill, why it's being portrayed as anti-investor, the areas where it could actually hurt housing supply, the potential big wins for modular housing, and what the bill means for zoning & building codes. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Will AI Replace My Job in the Housing Industry? The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis in Housing Finance 02.03.2026 56min

Congrats on surviving the AI crisis. In this episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan & Jeremy take a stab at AI doomsday from a housing lens, inspired by The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis by Alap Shah & Citrini Research. Hear whether AI will make housing tech & human intelligence worthless, what tasks AI will help us finally get done in housing finance, why we're in one of the most protectionist industries, how many white-collar jobs will truly get replaced by AI in the housing industry, and the most thought-provoking use cases for AI in housing. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Bonus Episode: Prosperity Now's Chrissi Johnson & Nestment's Niles Lichtenstein On Life after the Starter Home 22.02.2026 1h 7min

In this Bonus Episode of Housing Insiders, Jeremy Potter continues the conversation with Prosperity Now's Chrissi Johnson and Nestment's Niles Lichtenstein about the fate of the starter home. The trio's new report, The Starter Home Is Dead. Now What?, is a eulogy to a bygone era of traditional homeownership, but it also offers hope to buyers still trying to get into the market. Whether it's shared equity or rent-vesting, you'll want to hear about some of these alternative pathways and the workarounds real customers are using right now to make homebuying a reality. Download the white paper here: https://www.prosperitynow.org/news-and-insights/homeownership-in-america-the-starter-home-is-dead-now-what Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Shared Equity Series - Part 2: Homium's Marcus Martin & Crib Equity's Skye Laudari on New Models to Share Home Equity 16.02.2026 2h 2min

It's a Housing Insiders month unlike any other. This month, we're sharing a 2-part series on shared equity, featuring models that allow consumers to do something besides just renting or owning a home, but sharing. In Part 2, you'll hear Jonathan & Jeremy interview Homium CEO Marcus Martin and Crib Equity Co-Founder & CEO Skye Laudari. Homium partners with state and local HFAs, municipalities, and nonprofits to offer shared appreciation mortgage down payment support built for homeowners to succeed, and Crib Equity matches your down payment, helping you afford a better home and reduce your monthly mortgage payments. Hear how the financial side works for these shared equity solutions, how they're thinking through the tax implications, the potential for using blockchain when it comes to shared home equity, how co-investing works when it comes to shared equity, and what happens when it's time to resell your home. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Shared Equity Series - Part 1: Ownify's Frank Rohde & Cedar's Stuart Allan on New Models to Share Home Equity 02.02.2026 1h 43min

It's a Housing Insiders month unlike any other. This month, we're sharing a 2-part series on shared equity, featuring models that allow consumers to do something besides just renting or owning a home, but sharing. In Part 1, you'll hear Jonathan & Jeremy introduce the concept & key terminology of shared home equity, followed by interviews with Ownify Founder & CEO Frank Rohde and Cedar Co-Founder & CEO Stuart Allan. Ownify's fractional ownership platform partners savvy investors with qualified first-time homebuyers, and Cedar's lease model allows consumers to finally afford the home they want. Hear how fractional ownership works, the perks of seeing the real-time value of your home, what happens when you add the benefits of renters into homeownership, the nature of land leases, and investor considerations for shared equity. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Breaking Ground, Breaking Rules: btcRE's Ryan Gorman on Winning at Redevelopment 19.01.2026 1h 8min

Former Coldwell Banker CEO and now btcRE Founder Ryan Gorman spends his time turning stubborn buildings into productive, community‑anchored assets. In this episode of Housing Insiders, Ryan joins Jonathan and Jeremy to talk candidly about what it really takes to make a redevelopment pencil out today: juggling design and finance, deciding whether becoming a developer is still worth it, why it's so hard to build anything new, the biggest obstacles that stall projects, and how far building codes constrain what's possible. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Bonus Episode: The Starter Home Is Dead. Now What? With Nestment's Niles Lichtenstein 11.01.2026 56min

Jeremy Potter picks up the solo hosting duties in this Bonus Episode of Housing Insiders live from the 2025 Prosperity Summit. He was on a panel with Niles Lichtenstein, the Co-Founder & CEO of Nestment - the team of first-time homebuying experts. In this session, they tackle the death of the starter home and what first-time homebuyers can actually do to get in the home equity game. Hear the history of the starter home, the various shared equity options to help first-time homebuyers, shocking stats on homeownership, how we can create more confidence among first-time homebuyers, and whether first-time homebuying tools could ever be offered by employers. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

The Year Ahead in Housing: 2025 Recap & 2026 Predictions for the Housing Industry 05.01.2026 1h 4min

Another crazy year, another crazy year in the housing industry. In this special episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan & Jeremy look back at how their 2025 housing predictions fared and reveal their housing predictions for 2026. Hear what excites them about innovation in the housing industry, how AI will impact lending this year, the housing policy changes that may or may not finally happen, a lightning round of housing takes on real estate & offsite construction, and an impressive amount of Scarlett Johansson shoutouts. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Dear Director Pulte: A Christmas Wish List for the GSEs 22.12.2025 51min

It's the most wonderful time of the year, so we naturally had to get something off our chest. In this special episode of Housing Insiders, Jeremy plays solo host and Jonathan plays guest, bringing his Christmas Wish List for FHFA Director Bill Pulte and the GSEs. It's an extra passion-filled episode that reveals Jonathan's biggest wish for 2026, the creation of a GSE-backed construction loan. The Build My Home Mortgage could turn a niche, confusing "construction-to-perm" corner of the market into a mainstream path where realtors, lenders, and small builders can confidently tell families, "Can't find the home you want? We'll build it with you." It's an interesting solution to the supply crisis, especially when you consider the number of abandoned homes, empty lots, and land for sale while the housing crisis rages on. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Zoning, GSEs, and the Housing Squeeze: The Bipartisan Policy Center's Dennis Shea 08.12.2025 48min

Dennis Shea is the Executive Vice President and Chair of the J. Ronald Terwilliger Center for Housing Policy at the Bipartisan Policy Center (BPC). His past work with the Bipartisan Center includes serving as a consultant to the BPC's blue-ribbon Housing Commission and its Senior Health and Housing Task Force. Hear what the government should be focusing on to make housing more affordable, what's holding up zoning reform, the most game-changing (or not) pieces of housing legislation in the works, what's next for GSEs, and why we're truly in a moment where anything can happen in housing. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

Thanksgiving Special: A Full Thanksgiving Meal of Housing Topics & Traditions 24.11.2025 1h 14min

Happy Thanksgiving! Thank you for tuning into Housing Insiders and for making this show so special. In this Thanksgiving Special episode, Jonathan & Jeremy serve up their favorite Thanksgiving meal traditions - from those cheese ball appetizers to the air-fried bird - along with sides of their favorite products & trends they're liking in the industry. After a boozy Friendsgiving, Jonathan usually needs to take his pecan pie to go, and he thinks a mortgage should be portable too. Hear what else they have on their housing menu. And for Giving Tuesday, please consider a donation to DBG-Detroit at DBGDetroit.org Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform.

Inspector Gadgets? Inspectify's Josh Jensen on Simplifying Home Inspections 10.11.2025 54min

Inspectify Co-Founder & CEO Josh Jensen is fed up with the state of property & home inspections. That's why he started his company - a vertically integrated property inspection & underwriting platform. He joins Jonathan Lawless & Jeremy Potter in this fiery episode of Housing Insiders - not Psychology Insiders - to talk the past, present, and future of property & home inspections. Hear who gets home inspections & why, The Taylor Swift Problem in the world of inspections, what needs to change to improve home inspections, how AI could help home inspectors, and the most common things inspections uncover. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email Podcast@TheHousingInsiders.com with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards