The Credit Edge by Bloomberg Intelligence

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  LBO Debt Coming Due Is Next Big Test for Credit Markets, Says ICG 13.08.2026 45min

  Companies need to move fast to refinance leveraged-buyout debt coming due over the next few years, according to ICG. “Folks should start getting ahead of it because the traffic jam may be more the issue than anything,” David Saitowitz, the $126 billion global alternative asset manager’s head of US liquid credit, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Mike Holland in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “That could be the kind of risk event that may push the market wider for a period of time,” he says, referring to credit spreads. They also discuss the AI funding bubble, collateralized loan obligation performance and fallen-angel risk.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Investors Keeping Score on 'Bad PIK', Benefit Street Partners' Kumar Says 06.08.2026 53min

  Investors are increasingly wary of lenders who dish out so-called bad PIK, or payment-in-kind interest, to help struggling portfolio companies avoid default, according to Anant Kumar, global investment strategist at Benefit Street Partners, the private credit arm of $1.7 trillion asset manager Franklin Templeton. “If you’re a manager who wants to mask stress in the portfolio by doing that, you can probably fool some of the people some of the time,” he tells Bloomberg News’ Sinead Cruise and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Tolu Alamutu in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “I do think investors will catch on if you see a widespread use of PIK in the portfolio without any resolution.” Those managers will likely undershoot expectations when their next fundraising rolls around, Kumar says. The trio also discuss the resilience of private credit illiquidity premia, the specter of inflation and how an industry transparency push is forcing firms to address dubious marks faster than ever before.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Wellington Passes on Data Center Debt, Questioning Long-Term Value 23.07.2026 48min

  Data-center debt returns are falling, risk is rising and there’s uncertainty over what the properties may be worth in the long run, Wellington Management says. “We think a lot about that replacement value when evaluating data centers,” Sonali Wilson, the $1.3 trillion manager’s lead investment director for private credit, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s David Havens in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “Today, I’ll say — not every situation — but, by and large, it’s a pass,” she says. They also discuss commercial real estate investment strategies, how to position for AI disruption and why Wellington is building out a private-debt platform now.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Bull Run in Loans Slams CLO Equity Buyers, Says Eagle Point’s Majewski 16.07.2026 47min

  Collateralized loan obligations face a second straight year of equity losses, according to Eagle Point Credit Management, a major buyer. “Where we stand right now, it’s certainly possible,” Tom Majewski, the $14 billion private-credit manager’s founder and managing partner, says in this episode of the Credit Edge podcast, when asked about the chance of negative returns. “While there were some credit problems, oddly the bigger issue was the bull market and repricing of loans,” Majewski tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Reto Bachmann. They also discuss software-loan stress, business-development-company turmoil, lower returns in significant risk transfers and how Eagle Point is diversifying into hard assets like midmarket infrastructure lending.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Sona’s CEO Sees ‘Exciting’ Growth in Asset-Based Finance, SRTs 09.07.2026 45min

  Sona Asset Management is looking to expand its business in asset-based finance and significant risk transfers as public and private debt markets converge. “The thing that excites us the most is the scope for growth in ABF markets here in Europe,” Henrik Johnsson, the London-based hedge fund’s chief executive officer, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Aidan Cheslin in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “We really like SRTs, although spreads have obviously come in a lot over the last couple of years,” Johnsson adds. They also discuss how to short corporate debt, software-loan distress, secondary sales of private credit assets and investing in the AI boom.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  SpaceX Bondholders Face Huge Key Person Risk on Their Elon Musk Trip 01.07.2026 35min

  SpaceX bondholders are bolstered by a fat equity cushion, high-grade ratings and a relatively small amount of debt outstanding — but they depend on founder Elon Musk, according to Bloomberg Intelligence. “There’s a huge risk there, and the rating agencies have actually pointed this out in terms of governance,” Robert Schiffman, BI senior technology credit analyst, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie in this special episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “You’re absolutely on an Elon Musk trip — his vision and his ability to raise money is a large portion of this company right now,” adds George Ferguson, BI senior equity analyst for aerospace, defense and airlines. The trio also discuss poor secondary performance in SpaceX bonds, relative value compared with the equity, and credit-market risks if AI flops.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Europe's Largest Asset Manager Warns of AI Debt Deluge Crowding Out 25.06.2026 49min

  Further acceleration in AI debt issuance has the potential to steer demand away from government bonds, according to Amundi, Europe’s largest asset manager. “At some point it could have a crowding effect, but we are not there yet,” Gregoire Pesques, the firm’s chief investment officer for global fixed income, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Tolu Alamutu in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “It’s a risk that we monitor,” says Pesques, whose company has $2.7 trillion under management. They also discuss value in corporate debt relative to government bonds, how G7 countries are behaving more like emerging markets and Amundi’s concerns about central bank independence.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Real Estate Is Next Bet for Debt Investors Avoiding Private Credit 18.06.2026 45min

  Private credit disarray spells opportunity for housing giant Pretium, which targets high returns by lending to US homebuilders. “Our private credit looks a little bit different than other private credit in the sense that we are secured, we have real good downside protection,” Jon Pruzan, the company’s co-president, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Erica Adelberg in this episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “We have a lot of people who want capital and not a lot of people providing capital — that puts us in an opportunity to continue to generate attractive returns,” says Pruzan, who was previously chief financial officer at Morgan Stanley. They also discuss housing fundamentals, opportunity by region, how Pretium achieves midteens returns and political risks going into the November US midterm elections.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Oaktree Says Boring is Beautiful In Dicey Private Credit Market 11.06.2026 56min

  Private lenders are going back to basics as debt trouble spreads, market participants tell Bloomberg News’ James Crombie in this special episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “Boring is beautiful, boring is better right now,” says Christina Lee, managing director at Oaktree Capital Management. The podcast also explores AI debt risks, software distress, how tight bond spreads can go and the state of US consumers with the following guests: Matt Brill, head of North America investment-grade credit at Invesco; Anish Shah, global head of debt capital markets at Morgan Stanley; Lotfi Karoui, multi-asset credit strategist at Pimco; Jody Lurie, Bloomberg Intelligence senior credit analyst; Na Wei, global head of leveraged finance at Barclays; Sheel Patel, head of Mayer Brown’s private credit practice in New York; Shalini Sriram, Third Point’s head of structured credit; and Scott Goodwin, co-founder of Diameter Capital Partners. Interviews were recorded June 3 at Bloomberg’s Global Credit Forum in New York.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Goldman Sachs Sees ‘Uncomfortable Tension’ in Credit Markets 04.06.2026 46min

  Robust demand from pensions and insurance companies will support corporate debt through macroeconomic headwinds and record supply, according to Goldman Sachs. “Spreads are tight to the prewar levels when the facts on the ground have unquestionably become more challenging,” Amanda Lynam, Goldman’s chief credit strategist, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Robert Schiffman in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “That is this uncomfortable tension that we have in the credit market,” Lynam says. “Sentiment around the yield-based buyer is really in the driver’s seat.” They also discuss the AI funding boom, private-credit risks, CCC underperformance and where to find value in structured products.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Veteran ABS Investor Sees ‘Max Uncertainty With Max Complacency’ 28.05.2026 54min

  Bad software loans will cause credit-market trouble that recalls aspects of the global financial crisis, according to American Century Investments. “We call it max uncertainty with max complacency,” says Paul Norris, referring to tight credit spreads, in this episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “What’s interesting to me is the subprime crisis was very similar,” Norris, who leads the $330 billion asset manager’s securitized markets team, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Reto Bachmann. They also discuss growing risks to business development companies and collateralized loan obligations, advantages of public over private asset-backed debt and why residential mortgages are a buy.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Principal Sees High-Grade Downgrade Risk as Issuance Ramps Up 21.05.2026 42min

  Blue-chip companies, including hyperscalers, may be jeopardizing their credit ratings by piling on debt, according to Principal Asset Management. “We have seen some downgrades, and I would expect that that would continue as borrowing ramps up,” Mike Goosay, the $600 billion manager’s global head of fixed income, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Julie Hung on the latest Credit Edge podcast. “I don’t think that’ll have a behavioral effect on the way that investors look at the market, nor does it — to date, anyway — change the borrowing costs of those corporates,” he adds. They also discuss the artificial-intelligence funding frenzy, why junk bonds are attractive despite macroeconomic risks and how global government-bond volatility affects demand for credit.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Private Credit Has a Weak Underwriting Discipline Problem 19.05.2026 30min

  Loose underwriting standards are increasingly troubling for private credit market participants, according to Bloomberg Intelligence. “This concern has been growing for a period of time,” David Havens, BI’s senior analyst for private credit, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie in this special episode of the Credit Edge podcast. Weak underwriting discipline was flagged by private debt market participants in a recent global BI survey, rising in prominence compared with a poll conducted in September. In addition, direct lenders face lingering pressure from retail redemptions at business development companies. “Headlines are still going to be negative, focused on that very small portion of the market — it’s becoming slightly infectious and weighing on the wealth side of the business,” says Paul Gulberg, a senior analyst who covers global banks and asset managers. The trio also discuss the drivers of private credit growth, loan valuations, the liquidity premium and fund fees.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  JPMorgan Is Wary of Another Big Leap in AI-Related Spending 14.05.2026 50min

  JPMorgan Asset Management sees value in the debt of companies building out AI, but it’s keeping a close eye on how much more they plan to spend next year. “If we’re seeing capex increase at the same rate that we saw 2025 to 2026, I think that’s probably a little bit of a red flag,” Stephanie Doyle, a portfolio manager at the $4.3 trillion firm, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Arnold Kakuda in this episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “I think the issuance is an opportunity,” said Doyle, who’s part of the money manager’s global fixed income, currency and commodities team. They also discuss the potential for credit spreads to tighten, rising net new bond issuance, the earnings outlook and growing macro risks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  HarbourVest Expects Private Credit Secondaries Volume to Double 07.05.2026 50min

  Secondary trading of private credit is on track to more than double last year’s record volume, according to HarbourVest Partners. “Through the first quarter we’re run-rating above $50 billion this year,” Greg Ciesielski, the $150 billion global private markets firm’s head of credit secondaries, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Jean-Yves Coupin in this episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “It’s certainly a buyer’s market at the moment, which is what you generally see in dislocation,” he adds. They also discuss the impact of private credit stress on pricing, opportunities to buy assets from business development companies and how HarbourVest uses AI for valuation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Citi Warns of Private Debt Risk as ‘Tourists’ Are Forced to Sell 30.04.2026 49min

  Rookie private lenders that have to sell in a downturn are a potential threat to credit markets, according to Citi. “If the cycle turns and these tourists, rather than working out loans, just start selling them at below the economic value — what happens to the rest of the market?” Mickey Bhatia, the firm’s head of spread products, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Sam Geier in this episode of the Credit Edge podcast. “That’s a big worry,” says Bhatia. They also discuss global fund flows, investment in AI infrastructure and expansion of electronic trading to incorporate collateralized loan obligations.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Sycamore Tree Tips Chemicals in Iran Jam 23.04.2026 46min

  Middle East shipping disruptions are boosting US companies bruised by cheap Chinese supply, according to Sycamore Tree Capital Partners. “It really slows down the ability for some of those Asian-based chemical companies to produce,” Trey Parker, the asset manager’s co-founder and chief investment officer, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Phil Brendel in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “You’re going to have more US- and European-based chemical companies have an inherent advantage,” Parker added. They also discuss health-care relative value, the outlook for debt defaults, a slowdown in liability management exercises and opportunity in credit secondaries.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  Davidson Kempner Sees a $770 Billion Stressed Debt Opportunity 16.04.2026 52min

  US companies with $770 billion in loans are hitting a wall as interest rates stay elevated, according to Davidson Kempner. “We’re in year three of what’s already the longest default cycle in 20 years,” Suzy Gibbons, the hedge fund’s head of research, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s David Havens in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “About a third of the market is stressed based on fundamental credit data,” she said. They also discuss liability management exercises, software defaults, distressed-debt returns and the broader impact of leveraged-debt stress on markets.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  BDC Bond Bust Creates Opportunity for $622 Billion Asset Manager MFS 09.04.2026 51min

  A retail exodus from business-development companies has dragged their debt to levels that are starting to look attractive, according to MFS Investment Management. “Pressure for redemptions that they’re facing likely ends up creating some opportunities within the public credit markets,” Alex Mackey, the firm’s co-chief investment officer for fixed income, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Robert Schiffman in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “You can line up all the public and the private BDCs and you can go through and see which ones have the leverage metrics that are most attractive,” said Mackey, whose firm oversees $622 billion in assets. They also discuss the deluge of technology sector debt issuance and how wide credit spreads would have to go before they’d look attractive.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  PGIM Sees 'Chilling Effect' on Private Credit From BDC Storm 02.04.2026 47min

  Business development company turmoil is making direct lenders cautious on corporate debt risk, according to PGIM, which oversees more than $200 billion in private credit. “It’ll have a bit of a chilling effect,” Matt Harvey, the firm’s global head of middle-market direct lending, tells Bloomberg News’ James Crombie and Bloomberg Intelligence’s Matthew Geudtner in the latest Credit Edge podcast. “As a lender you’re a little bit more conservative, you’re a little bit more rational in terms of your view on how to structure the asset, how to price it,” Harvey says. They also discuss default rates, loan marks, the consumer staples sector and relative value in European direct lending.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.