What Came Next

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  187: [Jordan Wulf] The Night I Gained My Freedom Back // Part 2 24.07.2026 46min

  Content warning: extreme violence, brutality, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, strangulation, torture, domestic violence, criminal threats, kidnapping, and murder. Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of their marriage, Jordan would be a victim to an escalating pattern of coercion, control, and violence. The violence would rise to an unprecedented level in October of 2022, when the man who promised to love Jordan kidnapped her and abused her for eleven days. His October 17th, 2022 arrest offered her immediate safety, but the legal battles that ensued afterwards signified the beginning of a whole new journey for Jordan. Her experiences led her to become a victim advocate and to fight for legal change for domestic violence victims everywhere. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Jordan’s time, energy, and advocacy in the following episodes.If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and are in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support. Resources can be found via local agencies or thehotline.orgFor a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Jones Road Beauty & Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to use code WCN at jonesroadbeauty.com to get a Free Gift with your first purchase! #JonesRoadBeauty #adAnd to get your new wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to mintmobile.com/wcn. That’s it, there’s no catch!
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  186: [Jordan Wulf] The Beginning of the End // Part 1 17.07.2026 46min

  Content warning: emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, torture, domestic violence, physical brutality, kidnapping, and murder. Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of their marriage, Jordan would be a victim to an escalating pattern of coercion, control, and violence. The violence would rise to an unprecedented level in October of 2022, when the man who promised to love Jordan kidnapped her and abused her for eleven days. His October 17th, 2022 arrest offered her immediate safety, but the legal battles that ensued afterwards signified the beginning of a whole new journey for Jordan. Her experiences led her to become a victim advocate and to fight for legal change for domestic violence victims everywhere. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Jordan’s time, energy, and advocacy in the following episodes.If you believe you are in immediate danger, call your local emergency services. If you suspect you or a loved one may be a victim of domestic violence and are in the United States, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline by calling 1-800-799-7233, texting "START" to 88788, or visiting thehotline.org to speak with a trained advocate. If you are outside the U.S., please contact a domestic violence support service in your country or region.For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you again to Lola Blankets and Cash App for sponsoring this episode. You can get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets.And download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/394eb6t5 #CashAppPodCash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.
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  185: [Mary Cain] Nowhere Else to Turn 10.07.2026 39min

  Content warning: bullying, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, systemic abuse, systemic betrayal, self-harm, and suicidal ideation.Mary Cain is an author, athlete, and non-profit board member that was once hailed as one of the greatest young running talents in the world. But behind her success was a much more complicated story involving the pressures of elite competition, her experience inside the Nike Oregon Project, and the challenges she faced as she tried to find her voice. In the years that followed, and through civil legal accountability, Mary transformed from an athlete into an author and advocate examining the culture of sports and the treatment of young athletes. In this episode, Mary reflects on her journey, the highs and lows of her running career, and all that came next in this new chapter beyond the track. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Mary’s advocacy, energy, and willingness to share with our community.Follow & Support Mary:- Mary's Instagram: http:www.instagram.com/runmarycain - Mary's Book, This is Not About Running: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/this-is-not-about-running-mary-cain?variant=43897601589282- The Athlete Survivors' Assist: https://theathletesurvivorsassist.org/ Sources: Associated Press. “Track Coach Alberto Salazar Gets Four-Year Doping Ban.” Sports Illustrated, 1 Oct. 2019, https://www.si.com/olympics/2019/10/01/track-coach-alberto-salazar-gets-four-year-doping-banCain, Mary. “I Was the Fastest Girl in America, Until I Joined Nike.” The New York Times, Opinion Video, 7 Nov. 2019, https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000006788354/nike-running-mary-cain.htmlEpstein, David. “World’s Most Famous Track Coach Is Banned for 4 Years for Doping Violations.” ProPublica, 1 Oct. 2019, https://www.propublica.org/article/alberto-salazar-worlds-most-famous-track-coach-is-banned-for-4-years-for-doping-violationsMaese, Rick, and Adam Kilgore. “Alberto Salazar, Track Coach Who Trained Olympians, Banned 4 Years by U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.” The New York Times, 30 Sept. 2019, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/sports/alberto-salazar-doping-ban.htmlFor a list of additional resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources And don't forget that Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod
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  184: [Shelley Hamilton + Alicia Doyle] Until Answers Are Found // Part 3 03.07.2026 30min

  Content warning: child abuse, rape, strangulation, asphyxia, and murder. Shelley Hamilton is a co-victim of murder and co-author of the nonfiction book, The Forsaken. She has spent years uncovering the truth behind a deeply personal and complex case that forever changed her family and community, the 1978 murders of Shelley's 24-year-old sister, Rhonda Hamilton Wicht, and Rhonda's four-year-old son, Donnie. Shelley's journey in the criminal justice system over the last 48 years has been truly shocking. From mistrial to conviction to a prisoner's pardon, she has never given up her fight for truth. Alongside journalist Alicia Doyle, Shelley's mission in co-authoring The Forsaken is to document the facts and share the emotional truth that drives this story. The Broken Cycle media team is incredibly grateful for both women's time, energy, and advocacy. These episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Rhonda and Donnie Wicht.Sources:- Shelley's blog: https://rdjustice.home.blog/- Alicia's website: http://www.aliciadoyle.com- The Forsaken: https://rhondadonnie.com/- The Oath: https://amzn.to/4axmTF8For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
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  183: [Shelley Hamilton] Almost 39 Years // Part 2 26.06.2026 32min

  Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, rape, strangulation, asphyxia, and murder. Shelley Hamilton is a co-victim of murder and co-author of the nonfiction book, The Forsaken. She has spent years uncovering the truth behind a deeply personal and complex case that forever changed her family and community, the 1978 murders of Shelley's 24-year-old sister, Rhonda Hamilton Wicht, and Rhonda's four-year-old son, Donnie. Shelley's journey in the criminal justice system over the last 48 years has been truly shocking. From mistrial to conviction to a prisoner's pardon, she has never given up her fight for truth. Alongside journalist Alicia Doyle, Shelley's mission in co-authoring The Forsaken is to document the facts and share the emotional truth that drives this story. The Broken Cycle media team is incredibly grateful for both women's time, energy, and advocacy. The following episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Rhonda and Donnie Wicht.Sources:- Brown, Jerry. Pardon of [Redacted]. Office of the Governor of California, 22 Nov. 2017, California State Archives.- Davis, Mark. "$21 Million: The Price of One Man's Freedom." True Crime Detective Monthly, Mar. 2022.- Shelley's blog: https://rdjustice.home.blog/Resources:If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support.For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesDownload Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/394eb6t5 #CashAppPod Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.And don't forget to sleep cooler this summer with Boll & Branch during their Annual Summer Event. For a limited time, get 20% off sitewide at BollAndBranch.com/wcn with code wcn. Exclusions apply.
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  182: [Shelley Hamilton] Life Was in Limbo // Part 1 19.06.2026 37min

  Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, rape, strangulation, asphyxia, and murder. Shelley Hamilton is a co-victim of murder and co-author of the nonfiction book, The Forsaken. She has spent years uncovering the truth behind a deeply personal and complex case that forever changed her family and community, the 1978 murders of Shelley's 24-year-old sister, Rhonda Hamilton Wicht, and Rhonda's four-year-old son, Donnie. Shelley's journey in the criminal justice system over the last 48 years has been truly shocking. From mistrial to conviction to a prisoner's pardon, she has never given up her fight for truth. Alongside journalist Alicia Doyle, Shelley's mission in co-authoring The Forsaken is to document the facts and share the emotional truth that drives this story. The Broken Cycle media team is incredibly grateful for both women's time, energy, and advocacy. The following episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Rhonda and Donnie Wicht. Sources:Shelley's blog: https://rdjustice.home.blog/Resources:If you or someone you know may be experiencing domestic violence, help is available. If you believe you are in immediate danger, please call 9-1-1 or contact your local authorities for emergency assistance. Local domestic violence programs, shelters, and crisis hotlines can also provide confidential support.For a list of resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Quince and Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to elevate your summer wardrobe by going to Quince.com/wcn for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. And you can get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at Lolablankets.com by using code WCN at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets.
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  181: [WCN Presents] Episode 1 - 30 Survivor Updates 12.06.2026 40min

  Content Warning: criminal threats, professional abuse, image-based sexual abuse, legal abuse, cultic abuse, substance use disorder, driving under the influence, institutional betrayal, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, child-to-parent violence, childhood sexual abuse, sex trafficking, murder, and racism. Welcome to a special update episode of What Came Next. Since the launch of What Came Next over three years ago, we have had the honor of hosting conversations with nearly 200 incredible survivors and co-victims. Each guest we’ve hosted has brought powerful insight and incredible advocacy to the survivor community, and their work often extends far beyond the scope of their episode or episodes. In an effort to highlight our incredible past guests’ continued advocacy, we’re bringing you news and updates about their journeys. Today we’re highlighting some of the guests from Episodes 1 through 30, which originally aired from March 3rd, 2023 to August 18th, 2023. A lot can happen in three years, as you’ll hear in their updates. Please note, some of the survivors were able to send their updates in their own voice, and others sent updates in the form of narration. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply appreciative of all of the past guests who provided updates, as well as the ones who were unable to do so this time around.Sources: NBCUniversal News Group. (2026, March 24). Woman who sued Bill Cosby for Sexual Battery awarded almost $60 million. NBCNews.com. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-sued-bill-cosby-sexual-battery-awarded-192-million-rcna264800S.146 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): Take it down act | congress.gov | library of Congress. (n.d.). https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/146Resources: E1. [Amy B. Chesler] This Sh*t Doesn't End: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/amy-b-chesler-evil-lives-here-this-sh-t-doesnt-end/id1674051643?i=1000602598564E13. [Amy B. Chesler] The Darkest Times Are All Behind Me: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/amy-b-chesler-evil-lives-here-the-darkest-times-are/id1674051643?i=1000612743331Follow Amy B. Chesler: http://www.instagram.com/amybcheslerE3. [PJ Masten] A Constant Battle: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pj-masten-a-es-the-secrets-of-playboy-a-constant-battle/id1674051643?i=1000602601089PJ's email: pjmasten@yahoo.comE4. [Ron Schnackenberg] View From the Top: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ron-schnackenberg-netflixs-dirty-money-view-from-the-top/id1674051643?i=1000603561820Follow Ron on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/schnack23E7. [Dr. Charlotte Laws] I Had My Armor On: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dr-charlotte-laws-netflixs-the-most-hated-man-on/id1674051643?i=1000606709695Follow Dr. Laws on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/drcharlottelawsE8. [Moshe Blechman] God Gave Me Credit: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/moshe-blechman-god-gave-me-credit/id1674051643?i=1000607821282E9. [Sarah Edmonson] I Got Out: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sarah-edmondson-maxs-the-vow-i-got-out/id1674051643?i=1000608916504A Little Bit Culty: https://alittlebitculty.com/Sarah & Nippy's Book: https://amzn.to/4xnExorE17. [Dr. Danielle Moore] No Longer a Number: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dr-danielle-moore-no-longer-a-number/id1674051643?i=1000615414939Follow Dr. Dani on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/dr.dani2016Support The Athlete Survivors' Assist: https://theathletesurvivorsassist.org/E19. [Carol Oschin] It's Hard to Heal: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/carol-oschin-its-hard-to-heal/id1674051643?i=1000617238437E21. [Tina Swithin] One Mom's Battle: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tina-swithin-one-moms-battle/id1674051643?i=1000618845906Follow Tina on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/onemomsbattleE22. [John-Michael Lander] An Athlete's Silence: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-michael-lander-an-athletes-silence/id1674051643?i=1000619765637Follow John-Michael on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/johnmichaelanderE28. [Jan Broberg] Based on Science Fiction // Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jan-broberg-abducted-in-plain-sight-based-on-science/id1674051643?i=1000624129646E29. [Jan Broberg] Coming out of the Fog // Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jan-broberg-abducted-in-plain-sight-coming-out-of/id1674051643?i=1000624130706Trauma Interrupted: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/trauma-interrupted-with-jan-broberg/id1643071063The Jan Broberg Foundation:  http://www.janbrobergfoundation.org E30. [Cassandra Lane] We Are Bridges: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cassandra-lane-we-are-bridges/id1674051643?i=1000624849907Follow Cassandra on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/cassandra.lane71Cassandra’s book We Are Bridges: https://amzn.to/4vKE3Y1Thank you again to Mint Mobile and Cash App for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget, to get your new wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to MINTMOBILE.com/WCN. And Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/394eb6t5 #CashAppPodCash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.
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  180: [Amber Rodgers] A Crisis Victim Within the System // Part 2 05.06.2026 31min

  Content warning: childhood abuse, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, abduction, missing persons, gun violence, murder, and mental illness.Amber Rodgers is a survivor, business professional, and creative from Texas. As early as she can remember, her life was filled with chaos. By the time she was fourteen, she was a multi-crime survivor, and by 19 she would serve as a witness in her best friend’s murder trial. Amber moved forward by cultivating a successful career and loving family, until her past trauma instigated a cascading effect in her mental health and relationships. Although Amber has shared portions of her story at-large, it took her decades and a life-altering mental health journey to realize the deep impact her teen years had had on her. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply appreciative of Amber’s transparency, rawness, and advocacy. These episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Kytrina Marie Locascio.Sources: -Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “About Adverse Childhood Experiences.” CDC, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 2025, https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/aces/. -Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs).” CDC Vital Signs, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/aces/index.html. -Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “Psychosocial Factors and Health Equity.” CDC, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, https://www.cdc.gov/dhdsp/health_equity/psychosocial.htm. -Felitti, Vincent J., et al. “Relationship of Childhood Abuse and Household Dysfunction to Many of the Leading Causes of Death in Adults: The Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Study.” American Journal of Preventive Medicine, vol. 14, no. 4, 1998, pp. 245–258.-Hughes, Karen, et al. “The Effect of Multiple Adverse Childhood Experiences on Health: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.” The Lancet Public Health, vol. 2, no. 8, 2017, pp. e356–e366. doi:10.1016/S2468-2667(17)30118-4.-McKay, Matthew T., Laura Kilmartin, Aisling Meagher, Mary Cannon, Colm Healy, and Mary C. Clarke. “A Revised and Extended Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of the Relationship between Childhood Adversity and Adult Psychiatric Disorder.” Journal of Psychiatric Research, vol. 156, 2022, pp. 159–174. PubMed, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36274532/. -Swedo, Elizabeth A., et al. “Prevalence of Adverse Childhood Experiences Among U.S. Adults—Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, 2011–2020.” Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, vol. 72, no. 26, 2023, pp. 707–715, https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7226a2.htm. -Zhang, Y., et al. “Cumulative Adverse Childhood Experiences and Risk of Mental Disorders: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.” Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica, 2026, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0001691826007559. Accessed 2 June 2026.For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources*Thank you again to Rula and Quince for sponsoring this episode. *Remember, Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod *And don't forget to elevate your summer wardrobe, go to quince.com/wcn for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns, now available in Canada too.
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  179: [Amber Rodgers] It's Safe Until It's Not // Part 1 29.05.2026 26min

  Content warning: childhood abuse, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, abduction, missing persons, gun violence, murder, and mental illness.Amber Rodgers is a survivor, business professional, and creative from Texas. As early as she can remember, her life was filled with chaos. By the time she was fourteen, she was a multi-crime survivor, and by 19 she would serve as a witness in her best friend’s murder trial. Amber moved forward by cultivating a successful career and loving family, until her past trauma instigated a cascading effect in her mental health and relationships. Although Amber has shared portions of her story at-large, it took her decades and a life-altering mental health journey to realize the deep impact her teen years had had on her. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply appreciative of Amber’s transparency, rawness, and advocacy in the following two episodes. These episodes are dedicated in loving memory of Kytrina Marie Locascio.Sources: Curt Hodges. “Woman Murdered; Killer Sentenced.” The Jonesboro Sun, 22 Nov. 1997. For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
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  178: [SWW Presents] S24 E25 Case & Community Updates - 12/18/2025 22.05.2026 44min

  *Content Warning: fraud, harassment, catfishing, stalking, sexual abuse, troubled teen industry, childhood abuse, and institutionalized child abuse.*Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips:somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesCheck out our brand new SWW Sticker Shop!: https://brokencyclemedia.com/sticker-shop*SWW S24 Artwork: The S24 cover art is by the Amazing Sara StewartFollow Something Was Wrong: Website: somethingwaswrong.com  IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcast TikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast  Follow Tiffany Reese: Website: tiffanyreese.me  IG: instagram.com/lookieboo Follow Amy B. Chesler:IG: instagram.com/amybchesler *Resources:The Gathering Inn: https://www.thegatheringinn.com/Tending the Garden: https://www.tendingthegarden.love/Trans Doe Task Force: https://transdoetaskforce.org/*Sources:-Baker, Jennifer. “Doula Defrauder Kaitlyn Braun Will Return to Court in May for Sentencing Submissions.” CTVNews, 7 Mar. 2025, www.ctvnews.ca/kitchener/article/doula-defrauder-kaitlyn-braun-will-return-to-court-in-may-for-sentencing-submissions/-Beattie, Samantha. “Judge Calls Woman a ‘danger,’ Sends Her to Prison after Faking Pregnancies, Defrauding Ontario Doulas | CBC News.” CBCnews, CBC/Radio Canada, 10 June 2025, www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/kaitlyn-braun-sentence-1.7556327-Reese, Tiffany. “Season 18.” Something Was Wrong, Broken Cycle Media. https://somethingwaswrong.com/Thanks again to Boll and Branch and Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget you can get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping during the Memorial Day Sale at BollAndBranch.com/wcn with code WCN (exclusions apply). And upgrade your mobile plans at MintMobile.com/wcn. 
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  176: [Vanessa Reiser] Episode 77 Updates 15.05.2026 20min

  Content Warning: legal abuse, divorce, child-to-parent violence, narcissistic abuse, and coercive control.Vanessa Reiser is a mother, author, survivor, and licensed psychotherapist specializing in narcissistic and cult abuse. She is also the founder of Tell a Therapist, LLC and is best known for her 11-day, 285 mile run across the state of New York - in a wedding dress - to raise awareness for narcissistic abuse. We had the previous honor of hosting Vanessa as a guest on What Came Next in episode 77, entitled “The Treachery of No Empathy,” which first aired on July 5th, 2024. In the episode, her insights were both personal and professional, giving her a unique lens into narcissistic abuse. Since then, Vanessa has navigated some major life updates, and even added the role of podcaster to her resume. The Broken Cycle Media team continues to be so very grateful for Vanessa’s advocacy and willingness to share her expertise, time, and exciting updates with our audience.WCN Episode 77 [Vanessa Reiser] The Treachery of No Empathy: https://podcasts.apple.com/lt/podcast/vanessa-reiser-the-treachery-of-no-empathy/id1674051643?i=1000661213926Vanessa's Website: http://www.tellatherapist.netVanessa's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vanessareiserlcsw/Vanessa's Book: https://amzn.to/4383o1EIf you or someone you know is a victim of domestic violence, please consider visiting https://www.thehotline.org/. For a list of resources and related non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
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  175: [Tracy Hall] If It Is to Be, It Is up to Me // Part 2 08.05.2026 33min

  Content Warning:  love fraud, intimate fraud, financial fraud, gun violence, and robbery.Tracy Hall is a mother, author, speaker, business marketing expert, and victim of financial and intimate fraud from Australia. After a series of traumatic events and life changes, Tracy found herself unexpectedly single in her early 40’s. Although she had a full life, she sought an activity partner to grow with. That’s when she met Max Tavita, a Bondi Beach businessman with an active lifestyle and a deepening love for Tracy. Over the next year and a half, he would carefully cultivate a relationship that promised to fulfill all of Tracy’s romantic, personal, and even financial dreams. However, it would all come toppling down upon his December 2017 arrest, which brought the realization that Max - whose real name was Hamish - wasn’t who he said he was. Since navigating a long criminal justice process, sharing her story via podcast, book, and beyond, Tracy has made it her mission to bring awareness to the intricacies and stigmas of intimate fraud. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for Tracy’s openness, expertise, and advocacy.Tracy's Website: https://tracyhall.com.au/Tracy's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tracyleehall/Tracy's Media Language Guide: https://tracyhall.com.au/resourcesThe Last Victim in paperback: https://amzn.to/4ngzQbnThe Last Victim in Audiobook: https://amzn.to/4tZhezxWho the Hell is Hamish?: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/who-the-hell-is-hamish/id1451470931Sources:- “Conman Hamish McLaren Jailed for up to 16 Years after Swindling $7.6m from Victims.” The Guardian, Guardian News and Media, 20 June 2019, www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/20/conman-hamish-mclaren-jailed-for-up-to-16-years-after-swindling-76m-from-victims- “Early Appropriate Guilty Pleas.” The Law Society of New South Wales, www.lawsociety.com.au/resources/resources/my-practice-area/criminal-law/early-appropriate-guilty-pleas. For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources 
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  174: [Tracy Hall] I Was His Last Victim // Part 1 01.05.2026 29min

  Content Warning: miscarriage, love fraud, intimate fraud, financial fraud, and robbery. Tracy Hall is a mother, author, speaker, business marketing expert, and victim of financial and intimate fraud from Australia. After a series of traumatic events and life changes, Tracy found herself unexpectedly single in her early 40’s. Although she had a full life, she sought an activity partner to grow with. That’s when she met Max Tavita, a Bondi Beach businessman with an active lifestyle and a deepening love for Tracy. Over the next year and a half, he would carefully cultivate a relationship that promised to fulfill all of Tracy’s romantic, personal, and even financial dreams. However, it would all come toppling down upon his December 2017 arrest, which brought the realization that Max - whose real name was Hamish - wasn’t who he said he was. Since navigating a long criminal justice process, sharing her story via podcast, book, and beyond, Tracy has made it her mission to bring awareness to the intricacies and stigmas of intimate fraud. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for Tracy’s openness, expertise, and advocacy in the following two episodes.Tracy's Website: https://tracyhall.com.au/Tracy's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tracyleehall/ Sources:- “Conman Hamish McLaren Jailed for up to 16 Years after Swindling $7.6m from Victims.” The Guardian, Guardian News and Media, 20 June 2019, www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/20/conman-hamish-mclaren-jailed-for-up-to-16-years-after-swindling-76m-from-victimsFor a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources 
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  173: [Ali Davis] The Cycle Repeated 24.04.2026 44min

  Content Warning: suicidal ideation, suicide, neglect, abuse, torture, child abuse, childhood torture, domestic childhood torture, institutionalized abuse, and institutionalized torture. Ali Davis is a healthcare professional, non-profit founder, and a survivor of alleged childhood torture. She was born in Alaska, and as early as she can remember, the alleged torture that she would face at the hands of her mother had begun. It would take her years to come to recognize the weight of all that she navigated, and to be able to name it appropriately. Amidst her healing journey she launched a non-profit foundation called Pretti Graffiti which was established to provide funding for humanitarian aid for survivors of non-war-related childhood torture in the United States. Ali is paving the way for survivors and researchers alike, bringing awareness and prevention as a result of her efforts. The Broken Cycle Media team is so deeply grateful for her sharing her time, energy, expertise, and deeply empathetic views with our audience.   The Pretti Graffiti Foundation: https://www.prettigraffiti.org/Pretti Graffiti on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@_ali_davis_Sources: [PDF] Child Torture as a Form of Child Abuse | Semantic Scholar, www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Child-Torture-as-a-Form-of-Child-Abuse-Knox-Starling/2d88139a3af0775d9a20333b03bb8f356cbc6615 For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget, if you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop plans at mintmobile.com/wcn
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  172: [Nichole Schmidt - Netflix's American Murder: Gabby Petito] Her Voice is So Big 17.04.2026 41min

  Content Warning: intimate partner violence, domestic violence, strangulation, and murder. Nichole Schmidt is a mother, speaker, non-profit founder, victim advocate, and co-victim of murder. Her trajectory changed drastically in August of 2021 with the very public disappearance and murder of her daughter, Gabby Petito. In the wake of her loss, Nichole has transformed her grief into legislative and social change via the Gabby Petito Foundation, a Netflix documentary, a forthcoming book and podcast, and much more. The Broken Cycle Media team is beyond grateful for Nichole’s time, energy, resilience, and advocacy in the wake of her unimaginable loss. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Gabby Petito. Sources: - “Brian Laundrie’s Cause of Death, New Details Revealed in Autopsy.” ABC7 Los Angeles, 15 Feb. 2022, abc7.com/post/brian-laundrie-autopsy-gabby-petito-report/11564906/Resources: - Conference on Crimes Against Women: https://conferencecaw.org/- The Gabby Petito Foundation: https://gabbypetitofoundation.org/- The Gabby Petitio Foundation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gabbypetitofoundation/- Nikki Schmidt on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/niki_schmidt_/- Netflix's American Murder: Gabby Petito - https://www.netflix.com/title/81733793If you or someone you know is a victim of domestic violence, please consider seeking safety resources via https://www.thehotline.org/. For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you again to Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to get 40% off your entire order at Lolablankets.com by using code [WCN] at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets.
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  171: [Jana Guyewski-Lautigar] Protect Their Story & Truth // Part 2 10.04.2026 30min

  Content Warning: systemic betrayal, institutional betrayal, gun violence, suicide, and murder.As shared in part one of her story, Jana Guyewski-Lautigar is a mother, educator, social worker, and author from Bastrop, Louisiana. She joins us today to honor her sister, Crystal McCrorry Jones, whose life tragically ended on February 9th, 2023. Her death was deemed an unattended death - when a person passes away without witnesses or medical personnel present -  and thus, requires certain processes and procedures be completed to properly be investigated. Jana has been on a mission since Crystal’s death to compel the local authorities in the small town of Oak Grove to conduct standard, additional investigatory tasks that she believes should have been completed. Jana also now speaks out as an advocate for other family members seeking justice - and sometimes even just a simple investigation - via the media, her books, and in her classroom. She works to bring to light the injustices that The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply honored she is here today to share Crystal with our audience, as well as to share her expertise, advocacy, and warmth. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Crystal McCrory Jones.Justice for Crystal McCrory Jones FB Group:https://www.facebook.com/groups/3074535702847225/Justice for Crystal McCrory Jones Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/justiceforcrystalmccroryjones/Petition to Re-Open Crystal's Investigation:https://www.change.org/p/reopen-investigation-into-death-of-crystal-mccrory-jonesProposal for Crystal McCrory Law:https://www.change.org/p/proposal-for-the-crystal-mccrory-law-ensuring-proper-procedures-for-mailing-human-remainsFor a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Mint Mobile and Quince for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget: if you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop plans at MintMobile.com/wcn. And refresh your spring wardrobe with Quince. Go to Quince.com/WCN for free shipping and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. 
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  170: [Jana Guyewski-Lautigar] I Didn't Have Any Answers // Part 1 03.04.2026 27min

  Content Warning: systemic betrayal, institutional betrayal, gun violence, suicide, and murder.Jana Guyewski-Lautigar is a mother, educator, social worker, and author from Bastrop, Louisiana. She joins us today to honor her sister, Crystal McCrorry Jones, whose life tragically ended on February 9th, 2023. Her death was deemed an unattended death - when a person passes away without witnesses or medical personnel present -  and thus, requires certain processes and procedures be completed to properly be investigated. Jana has been on a mission since Crystal’s death to compel the local authorities in the small town of Oak Grove to conduct standard, additional investigatory tasks that she believes should have been completed. Jana also now speaks out as an advocate for other family members seeking justice - and sometimes even just a simple investigation - via the media, her books, and in her classroom. She works to bring to light the injustices that The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply honored she is here today to share Crystal with our audience, as well as to share her expertise, advocacy, and warmth. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Crystal McCrory Jones.Justice for Crystal McCrory Jones FB Group:https://www.facebook.com/groups/3074535702847225/Justice for Crystal McCrory Jones Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/justiceforcrystalmccroryjones/For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Rula and Quince for sponsoring this episode. Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wcn #rulapod - And don't forget to refresh your spring wardrobe with Quince. Go to quince.com/WCN for free shipping and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too.
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  169: [Jen Higgins] A Nightmarish Loop 27.03.2026 40min

  Content warning: self-harm, suicidal ideation, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, and suicide. Jen Higgins is a resident of Arkansas, mother, and founder of Anyway Socks, a company on a mission to help end domestic violence. Jen was inspired to create the company after the loss of her best friend, Brooke. In years prior, Brooke had been surviving and attempting to escape a violent relationship, and Jen was doing her best to be Brooke’s support person. However, it was after the tragic loss of Brooke, that Jen was left with a gaping hole in her heart, and a mission on her mind. She now offers support to domestic violence resources by way of her company, and she continues to share Brooke’s memory with the world in order to make change. She also works hard to bring awareness to the deep impact that being a co-victim of abuse can have on a loved one’s trajectory. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful for Jen’s strength, perspective, and mission. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Brooke.If you or someone you know is a victim of domestic violence, please consider seeking safety resources via https://www.thehotline.org/. For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Anyway Socks: https://anywaysocks.com/Anyway Socks on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anywaysocks/Northwest Arkansas Women's Shelter: chttps://peaceathomeshelter.org/Peace at Home Family Shelter: https://peaceathomeshelter.org/Don't forget that for a limited time only, our listeners are getting an insane deal on First Day vitamins! Use code [WCN] to get up to 57% Off at FirstDay.com. That’s up to 57% Off and a Free Gift with code [WCN] at FirstDay.com. After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them; please support our show and tell them What Came Next sent you.
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  168: [Robin Lee] He Took Every Part of Her // Part 2 20.03.2026 27min

  Content Warning: unhousedness, substance abuse, substance abuse disorder, domestic violence, child-to-parent violence, elder abuse, parricide, and murder.As shared in part one of her story, Robin Lee is a court reporter, mother, survivor, and co-victim of murder from Southern California. Although Robin’s career in the criminal justice system has given her a unique perspective, it was the loss of her beloved mother, Jerri Lynn Boswell, that truly opened her eyes to the realities of the criminal justice processes. Jerri Lynn’s 2021 murder came after years of documented abuse at the hands of her son, Robin’s brother. And after what felt like a never-ending battle to seek justice that also took years, Robin is left picking up the pieces of her origin family. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful for Robin’s friendship, honesty, openness, and willingness to share Jerri Lynn with our audience. This episode is dedicated to Jerri Lynn Boswell.If you or someone you know is a victim of domestic violence, please consider seeking safety resources via https://www.thehotline.org/. For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesFamilicide featuring Robin: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/familicide-true-crime-survivor-stories-of-family-murder/id1790959014?i=1000705355323Thank you again to Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to shop plans at mintmobile.com/wcn
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  167: [Robin Lee] He Cast a Spell on Her // Part 1 13.03.2026 26min

  Content Warning: intrafamilial sexual abuse, substance abuse, substance abuse disorder, domestic violence, child-to-parent violence, elder abuse, parricide, and murder. Robin Lee is a court reporter, mother, survivor, and co-victim of murder from Southern California. Although Robin’s career in the criminal justice system has given her a unique perspective, it was the loss of her beloved mother, Jerri Lynn Boswell, that truly opened her eyes to the realities of the criminal justice processes. Jerri Lynn’s 2021 murder came after years of documented abuse at the hands of her son, Robin’s brother. And after what felt like a never-ending battle to seek justice that also took years, Robin is left picking up the pieces of her origin family. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful for Robin’s friendship, honesty, openness, and willingness to share Jerri Lynn with our audience. This episode is dedicated to Jerri Lynn Boswell.If you or someone you know is a victim of domestic violence, please consider seeking safety resources via https://www.thehotline.org/. For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget for a limited time, our listeners can get 40% OFF select Lola Blankets products with code [WCN] at checkout. Just head to LolaBlankets.com and use code [WCN] to get 40% OFF your order. After you purchase, they’ll ask where you heard about them. PLEASE support our show and let them know What Came Next sent you!