CaSE: Conversations about Software Engineering
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Conversations about Software Engineering (CaSE) is a podcast for software engineers covering technology, software engineering, software architecture, reliability engineering, and data engineering. The hosts regularly discuss recent events or articles, share learnings, and reflect on professional and personal experiences. Guest episodes feature engaging conversations with interesting people from the software engineering world.
Episoade
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Technology Governance with Sarah Wells 15.06.2026 45minSarah Wells spent years as Technical Director at the Financial Times, wrangling thousands of microservices and the technology decisions that come with them. In this conversation she shares how the FT kept things from spiralling out of control without turning into a bureaucracy. We talk AI tools and shadow IT, why "best tool for the job" can quietly become your worst nightmare, and how a simple two-page document can save you from months of regret.
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Agent Harness, State of Play, Risk and AI Company Culture 17.03.2026 1h 25minBirgitta, Heinrich and Sven look back at the latest developments in AI-assisted development, tools and practices which emerged in 2025 and work for teams. Furthermore they discuss a few topics like "where does the rigor go in AI assistance" from the future of software development retreat in Utah
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Guiding, not ruling: Architecture Governance Approaches 02.02.2026 1h 11minWe want engineering teams to be as autonomous as possible, but also want that every team runs in the same direction. In this episode, Heinrich Hartmann and Sven Johann explore four approaches of guiding, not ruling, governance: golden paths, architecture advice processes, architecture principles and technology radars as practical tools for aligning autonomy with long-term organisational health.
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Andrew Harmel-Law on Better Architecture Decision Making for Everyone 13.01.2026 1h 21min### Description How do teams actually make better architectural decisions—without gatekeepers, power imbalances, or meetings full of opinions instead of insights? In this episode, Andrew, Heinrich, Sven and Alex discuss how the advice process, architecture decision records, and practiced sociotechnics help to make software architecture collaborative and transparent.
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Data Marketplace, Data Products and Data Contracts 22.09.2025 1h 19minAlex, Heinrich and Sven talk with Simon Harrer about his journey to data contracts and marketplaces from being PhD in Software Engineering and Software Engineering consultant. They discuss what a data contract is and how it is build up, can be discovered in a data marketplace and how it relates to a data product. They close with the unavoidable MCP topic in the context of a data marketplace.
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Data Architecture with Christoph Windheuser 02.07.2025 1h 49minThe three of us talk with Christoph Windheuser about the styles in data architecture: data mesh, data lake (house) and data warehouse and how to make a decision. In between Christoph explains data quality, data lineage, and data catalog - cornerstones of any modern approach. We end with emerging trends, DuckDB and data governance.
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Mirko Novakovic on Waves of Innovation and Observability Product Management 05.06.2025 1h 46minIn this episode of the CaSE Podcast, Mirko Novakovic, a seasoned entrepreneur and investor, shares his journey through the waves of technological innovation—from the early days of online banking to the rise of AI and open telemetry. We explore with him how the lessons learned in diverse industries, including the food business, can reshape our approach to software development and architecture, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, adaptability, and a solid grasp of the fundamentals.
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Architecture Sensitivity Points; Interactions with AI Assistance 08.04.2025 1h 29minIn this episode of the CaSE Podcast, Sven Johann, Alex Heusingfeld, and Heinrich Hartmann dive into the concept of sensitivity points in software architecture, using the recent Volkswagen data leak as a striking example. They explore how seemingly minor architectural decisions and code changes can carry massive implications when balancing trade-offs like data privacy versus functionality. The trio also discusses the growing impact of AI-assisted development, reflecting on practical experiences with tools like ChatGPT, Cursor, and GitHub Copilot.
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Ole Lensmar - From Swagger to TestCube: Evolving Testing Practices in the Kubernetes Era 17.03.2025 1h 34minHow do you ensure the reliability of your cloud-native applications in an ever-evolving landscape? In this episode of CaSE, we dive deep into the intricate world of cloud-native testing with Ole Lensmar, the mind behind SoapUI, serial entrepreneur and Founder of TestKube. Join us as we explore the challenges of testing in Kubernetes environments, the balance between automation and manual testing, and the evolving role of AI in shaping our testing strategies.
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Theo Schlossnagle on Meat, Machines, and Mastery in Software Engineering 25.02.2025 1h 50minTheo Schlossnagle is a world-class software engineer, serial entrepreneur and owner of a butcher shop. In the podcast he unpacks the mindset, practices, and strategies that have shaped his approach to software development. From the power of curiosity to the challenges of debugging distributed systems, we explore what it takes to build resilient, maintainable software in an ever-evolving landscape. Along the way, we dive into automation of butchery equipment, the pitfalls of legacy systems, and the delicate balance between abstraction and simplicity. Whether you're scaling architectures, optimizing code, or integrating outdated APIs, this conversation is packed with insights to sharpen your engineering craft. Tune in to explore what makes great software—and great engineers—stand out.
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New Hosts and Formats, Observability Costs and Training 03.02.2025 1h 21minThe CaSE Podcast returns with new hosts and a renewed focus on software architecture, reliability engineering, and data engineering. In this episode we start with discussing the cost of observability, sparked by Coinbase’s leaked $65 million Datadog bill, raising questions about how much organizations should spend on monitoring. We also discuss the most important content of observability training for software architects. We close with Alex’ current thoughts on home automation while renovating his house.
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Aino Corry on Better Tech Meetings 11.09.2023 1h 9minAino explains to Sven what skills are required to make meetings more successful. They talk about the different roles of meeting attendees. They continue with the thinking process to organize a meeting: do we need it at all? What is the expected outcome? Who should be invited? How long it should take? Do we need preparation for the attendees? Icebreakers? How do we craft an agenda? Then they discuss how to steer a meeting as a meeting facilitator, how to engage (quite) attendees and how to deal with negative people. Finally, they close with methods on how to improve your moderator skills.
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Angelo Veltens on Solid 16.05.2022 44minSolid is a specification that lets people store their data securely in decentralized data stores called Pods. But why do we want to keep our data decentralized? What problems does Solid solve? In this episode, Angelo Veltens explains to Lucas Dohmen the advantages (but also potential disadvantages) of this project.
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Mark Seemann on heuristics for software engineering 14.03.2022 1hStefan Tilkov talks to Mark Seemann about his book “Code that fits in your head”, heuristics about software engineering, and the role of craftspeople and engineers. They dive into three selected topics: Vertical slices, triangulation, and rhythm.
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Chris Richardson on Service Templates and Service Chassis 21.02.2022 1hHow do you enable a developer to quickly start the development of business logic of a new microservice without losing too much time on setting up everything else like monitoring, tracing, dependency management, security, configuration and much more. After the motivation, they move from service templates to service chassis, continue with governance as code and close with the possible need of product management skills to keep the chassis and the derived services current.
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Adam Tornhill on Software Design X-Rays 17.01.2022 54minSven Johann talks to Adam Tornhill about the link between how organizations write code and how teams work together. Adam Tornhill can make this link visible to help improve your team’s code and your organization's work. The interview is based on Adam's book "Software Design X-Rays".
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Manuel Pais on Team Topologies 25.10.2021 1h 2minSven Johann talks with Manuel Pais about the challenges of development teams being asked to be responsible for many topics like their problem domain, technology/programming languages, security, infrastructure and operations, UX, etc. Manuel explains what cognitive load is, which types of cognitive load exist and where it can be reduced and where not. They then discuss the four fundamental team topologies stream-aligned, enabling, platform and complicated subsystem: their benefit, how you should run those teams and which obstacles you need to overcome to be successful.
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Michele Hansen on Customer Interviews and Deploying Empathy 04.10.2021 49minMichele shares her journey in the software industry and how she got involved in product development. Customer interviews are not just something for product people -- Michele shares concrete ways that developers can get value from talking to their customers. She also shares a few tips for how to get involved with the customer research process and how to convince stakeholders of the value of the process (if necessary). They also discuss what the different between empathy, sympathy, and compassion. Empathy is understanding someone else's context and perspective. Since empathy is not something that comes naturally to everyone, Michele shares some tips about how to learn to become empathetic and become a better listener.
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Eric Normand on Functional Thinking 21.06.2021 1h 36minIn this conversation about software engineering, Lucas Dohmen talks with Eric Normand. Eric first explains the origins of his book, Grokking Simplicity. He explains how to think in calculations, actions, and data. Lucas asks him about real-life situations dealing with concurrency and how he would solve them thinking functionally. Then they dive deep into their conversation about immutability, type systems, and learning from other communities.
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Nicolas Steenhout on Accessibility 01.06.2021 54minIn this episode, web accessibility expert Nicolas Steenhout talks to Stefan Tilkov about ways to improve web sites to make them usable by everyone. They cover the basics of web accessibility, the role of frameworks, common pitfalls and how to overcome them, blueberry muffins, and the perils of snake oil vendor tools.
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