Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast

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• Ep 95 – Advancing MI Practice Through Coding and Coaching 19.06.2026 1h 27min

   Glenn and Sebastian welcomed back Katie Hartlieb, PhD, RDN, to discuss advancing MI practice through coding and coaching. Dr. Hartlieb is a professor and program director of the Master of Science in Functional Nutrition at Parker University, in Dallas, Texas, for professionals seeking to create holistic, science-based health partnerships for optimal patient wellness.  She has been an active member of MINT for over 15 years and was named a Pediatric Obesity Subject Matter Expert by the Commission on Dietetics Registration. Her research interests include improving health behavior change conversations and family empowerment to achieve healthy lifestyles. Dr. Hartlieb specializes in MI coding, coaching, and strengthening the MI standardized patient experience internationally, collaborating with organizations like the Wisconsin Human Service MI Implementation Team and the Japanese Association for Motivational Interviewing (JAMI). She resides with her family in Northern Michigan, USA, where nature time and eating the rainbow are daily pursuits and serves on the Board of Directors for the Grain Train Community Food Cooperative.  Episode Index:         0:00 – Opening and episode introduction          7:38 – Role play        27:14 – Katie’s journey into MI and using coding to enhance practice        33:10 – Coding and coaching using the MI Treatment Integrity Code (MITI)                  38:40 – Coaching session between Katie and Seb    1:06:00 – Coaching session debrief    1:25:50 – Katie’s projects in Asia     1:27:50 – End of recording  Links and contact information: Email: kathryn.hartlieb@gmail.com Website: https://hartliebnutrition.com/  MITI Manual: https://motivationalinterviewing.org/sites/default/files/miti4_2.pdf Sebastian Smoking Podcast MITI Report: https://www.glennhinds.com/sebastian-smoking-podcast-miti-report/ Connect with Glenn & Seb 📧 Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 95 – Advancing MI Practice Through Coding and Coaching appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 94 – Motivational Interviewing in Leadership & Organisations (MILO) – Part 2 20.04.2026 58min

  Episode 94 – MI in Leadership and Organizations – Part 2 Glenn and Seb were excited to bring Jeff Wetherhold, M.Ed. to the podcast to discuss MI in leadership and organizations (MILO) A former behavioral science researcher trained in change management and adult learning, Jeff has spent 20+ years supporting mission-driven organizations through change.  Research shows that 88% of organizational change efforts produce no lasting results. The most common reasons center on communication, engagement, and support. Many leaders and managers are never taught how to effectively engage others in change. Jeff helps leaders and staff navigate change together using Motivational Interviewing (MI) as a foundation. He specializes in adapting MI for the challenges they encounter every day. His approach integrates MI with behavioral science, change management, adult learning principles, and evidence-driven communication methods. Jeff has trained thousands of professionals in healthcare, human services, and mission-driven organizations in using MI to engage people who may be skeptical, disengaged, or experiencing change fatigue. Clients include the State of Illinois, the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, the University of Nebraska Medical Center, MIT, and the Institute for Healthcare Delivery Design. Jeff is a board member of Motivational Interviewing in Leadership and Organizations (MILO), a faculty member with the Institute for Healthcare Improvement (IHI), a Prosci Certified Change Practitioner, and a member of the MI Network of Trainers (MINT). He holds a Master’s in Education from Harvard University. Episode Index:         0:00 – Opening and episode introduction          7:37 – Jeff introduction and the challenge of organizational change       13:30 – The importance of relationship within organizations       17:30 – How does change happen within organizations?       23:40 – How we work with “agency”?       28:20 – Leadership can be lonely and how MI can help?       34:20 – An example from the field       43:30 – MI in Leadership and Organizations (MILO)       50:30 – Jeff’s work around “influence with dignity”       53:30 – Differences in training leaders and therapists        58:38 – End of recording  Links and contact information: Email: jeff@miforhealth.com Website: https://www.jeffwetherhold.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wetherhold/ MI in Leadership and Organizations (MILO):  https://www.leadwithmi.org/  Connect with Glenn & Seb 📧 Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 94 – Motivational Interviewing in Leadership & Organisations (MILO) – Part 2 appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 93 – Integrating Body Awareness into Motivational Interviewing 05.02.2026 1h 32min

  Miranda Grattan Marie Delorme Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Miranda Grattan and Marie Delorme to the podcast to discuss integrating body awareness and somatic therapy into MI. Marie Delorme is a Certified Motivational Trainer based in Ottawa, Canada, regularly offering MI training and coaching internationally. She is a somatic psychotherapist certified in Integrated Somatic Therapy Practice (C-ISTP™) and provides trauma-informed therapy in both in-person and virtual settings. Marie’s work integrates motivational interviewing with body-based practices such as restorative yoga, breathwork, Thai yoga massage, movement, and sound therapy. She is passionate about creating safe, supportive spaces where people can reconnect with their bodies, release stress and trauma at their own pace, and move toward greater clarity, self-compassion, and personal growth. Miranda Grattan is a Registered Social Worker (RSW, MSW), MI trainer and consultant, and a Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner (SEP™). She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2013 and served as a coach for the MINT-endorsed online Training New Trainers (TNT) in 2025. Based in Prince George, Canada, on the unceded lands of the Lheidli T’enneh, her work is grounded in relational, decolonizing, and anti-oppressive practice. Miranda is also an approved Advanced-level Training Assistant and a beginner-level Personal Education Session Provider within Somatic Experiencing® International’s three-year professional training program. Drawing on her years of MI practice and teaching, alongside her work as a body-oriented trauma therapist, she explores an emerging contribution within the MI community: how attention to nervous system capacity, embodiment, and neurobiology can deepen MI spirit, presence, and evocation. Her approach blends close observation of MI in action with practical guidance for nervous-system-informed communication and practice. She also facilitates neurobiologically informed professional learning across service systems, informing her understanding of motivation, capacity, and readiness in complex practice contexts. Somatic Experiencing International (SEI) Disclaimer The Somatic Experiencing® modality is provided for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute providing medical advice, medical treatment or tools used for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease. Those seeking personal medical advice should consult with a licensed physician.  For more information about the Somatic Experiencing modality, please visit the website www.traumahealing.org.  SEI does not endorse, approve, or support any specific authors, practitioners, or contributors unless explicitly stated otherwise. Views, opinions, methodologies, or practices expressed by individuals regarding SEI modalities are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official views of SEI.  Episode Index:         0:00 – Opening and episode introduction          7:05 – Marie and Miranda’s introductions and early MI stories       14:15 – Marie and Miranda’s early experiences with body focused work       19:00 – Noticing the body when doing MI       31:00 – Alignment of the mind, the heart, and the body       36:45 – Integrating body awareness and MI       46:35 – What does a body need when it is healing itself?       56:10 – Marie demonstrating a resting somatic exercise    1:05:15 – Miranda demonstrating an activating somatic exercise    1:27:10 – “The body as a doorway to motivation”     1:28:30 – Marie working on balance and Miranda being an ice hockey mom    1:32:46 – End of recording  Links and contact information: Marie Delorme Website: https://www.mariedelorme.com Email: Marie.c.delorme@gmail.com Instagram: @mariecarmendelorme  Miranda Grattan Website: https://www.inneroasiscc.ca/about-me  Email: mirandagrattan@gmail.com  Connect with Glenn & Seb 📧 Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 93 – Integrating Body Awareness into Motivational Interviewing appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 92 – Motivational Interviewing in Oncology Cancer Care 07.12.2025 1h 3min

  Episode 92 – Motivational Interviewing in Oncology Cancer Care Glenn and Sebastian were excited to have Dr. Maya Obadia on the podcast to discuss MI in oncology cancer care. Maya is a Registered Psychotherapist and a Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) certified MI trainer. She is currently a Lecturer in Kinesiology and Psychology at the University of Guelph-Humber, an affiliate of the ELLICSR Cancer and Survivorship Centre at UHN, and Director of Maya Obadia Training and Psychotherapy.  Her expertise is in MI for behaviour change in populations with chronic disease. Maya has received her doctorate from the Institute of Medical Science, Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto, and training at Sickkids in Toronto where she developed a MI training program for primary care physicians to use when treating children with obesity. Maya’s post doctoral fellowship training in the Department of Psychiatry, University of Toronto, and at UHN, paved the way for use of MI as an integral part of Cancer Rehabilitation and Survivorship at the Princess Margaret Cancer Centre. Maya continues to be involved in curriculum writing, training and research in oncology and health related programs. She has authored research papers and book chapters. Maya continues to consult with various research institutions and non profit supporting programs and curriculums in health behaviour change. Maya offers a variety or programming and trainings both in person and online as well as speaking engagements. Episode index:      0:00 – Episode intro      5:39 – Maya’s introduction and early MI story    12:00 – Ambivalence in Oncology    17:37 – Effective information giving using Elicit-Provide-Elicit (or Ask-Offer-Ask)    22:10 – Supporting a person with changing needs throughout their cancer treatment    28:15 – System-wide implementation of MI    39:10 – The use of important and confidence rulers     49:00 – Trusting the MI process: “MIsting the plants”    60:50 – Maya preparing for future trainings and travel    53:53 – End of episode Links and resources: Email: maya@mayaobadia.com  Website: http://mayaobadia.com/ Instagram: @drmayaphd     CANO publication: https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.cano-acio.ca/resource/resmgr/survivorship_modules/SurvMod_Unit_10-ENG-Sample.pdf Relevant Citations Ritvo P, Obadia M, Santa Mina D, Alibhai S, Sabiston C, Oh P, Campbell K, McCready D, Auger L, Jones JM. Smartphone-Enabled Health Coaching Intervention (iMOVE) to Promote Long-Term Maintenance of Physical Activity in Breast Cancer Survivors: Protocol for a Feasibility Pilot Randomized Controlled Trial. JMIR Res Protoc. 2017 Aug 24;6(8):e165. doi: 10.2196/resprot.6615. PMID: 28838886; PMCID: PMC5590009. MacDonald AM, Chafranskaia A, Lopez CJ, Maganti M, Bernstein LJ, Chang E, Langelier DM, Obadia M, Edwards B, Oh P, Bender JL, Alibhai SM, Jones JM. CaRE @ Home: Pilot Study of an Online Multidimensional Cancer Rehabilitation and Exercise Program for Cancer Survivors. J Clin Med. 2020 Sep 25;9(10):3092. doi: 10.3390/jcm9103092. PMID: 32992759; PMCID: PMC7600555. Flora PK, Lopez P, Mina DS, Jones JM, Brawley LR, Sabiston CM, Ferguson SE, Obadia MM, Auger LE. Feasibility and acceptability of a group-mediated exercise intervention for gynecological cancer survivors. J Psychosoc Oncol. 2022;40(6):770-789. doi: 10.1080/07347332.2021.1939474. Epub 2021 Jun 29. PMID: 34185628. Connect with Glenn & Seb 📧 Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 92 – Motivational Interviewing in Oncology Cancer Care appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 91 – MI for Intimate Partner Violence 06.10.2025

  Glenn and Seb welcomed Ken McMaster, MSW Hons, CQSW, on the podcast to discuss the use of MI for intimate partner violence. Ken has over forty years’ experience working at the cutting edge of intervention work with men who are violent and who sexually abuse.  He is known for his innovative practice ideas and the ability to translate theory into practice.  He has held positions as a member and Chair of the Family Violence Advisory Committee/ Te Rangai Whiriwhiri Tukinotanga a-Whānau. This committee was established to provide the Minister of Social Services and Employment with independent policy advice on matters related to government initiatives within the family violence arena. He was also a founding member of the National Network of Stopping Violence Services/Te Kupenga Whakaoti Mahi Putanga and is a past chair. Ken worked on the Respondent Program Regulations for the Domestic Violence Act (1995). In addition, he has worked as a part-time lecturer in Social Work at Canterbury University and is now involved full-time with HMA as manager, writer of materials and principal trainer. He has been a member of the Domestic Violence Act Program Approvals Committee for the Ministry of Justice. Ken McMaster has published two books on Domestic Violence – A Private Affair, GP Books: Wellington (1989) and Feeling Angry, Playing Fair, Reed: Auckland, (1988).  He has co-edited a book with Arthur Wells titled Innovative Approaches to Stopping Family Violence, Steele Roberts: Wellington (2003), and with Leon Bakker titled Will they do it again: Assessing and managing risk, HMA Books: Christchurch (2006).  In 2011 Ken co-edited with David Riley Effective Interventions with Offenders, Steele Roberts: Wellington (2011). Ken has had involvement in training dating back to 1985 and has led the design of a number of large Correctional and MI initiatives in Australia and New Zealand. Ken is a member of the MI Network of Trainers (MINT) and is currently Chair of MINT after serving as Chair of  MINT Oceania, a voluntary  group of MINT members tasked with supporting MI practice within Australia and New Zealand. Episode Index 0:00 – Episode intro 7:09 – Ken’s introduction and early MI story 10:30 – From “What you’ve done” to “What’s your story?” 16:00 – Links to past trauma and creating safety 20:30 – Supporting practitioners 27:00 – Exploring discrepancy between values and behaviour 28:30 – Working with mandated clients 35:35 – The “Why” in MI 43:30 – Combining MI with other approaches 48:45 – Supporting the family 51:20 – Technology and innovation: using AI and apps to reduce violence 56:06 – End of episode Connect with Glenn & Seb 📧 Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes   The post Ep 91 – MI for Intimate Partner Violence appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 90 – MI in Dentistry 15.09.2025 1h 6min

  Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dougie Marks and Mairi Albiston on the podcast to discuss MI in Dentistry. Dougie’s work concerns the furthering of knowledge of the ways in which science-based practice can be used to answer one of the oldest philosophical questions: “How should we live?” He is a Health Psychologist, CBT Therapist and Lecturer in Behavioural Sciences at the University of Glasgow, where he is based in the Medical School. His work spans the areas of teaching, research, consultancy and clinical practice. He uses a biopsychosocial model to understand the human condition and works with organisations, groups, and individuals to point people towards the development of the wholly integrated self. As well as teaching and researching at the University of Glasgow, he keeps a small clinical caseload of individual clients experiencing a variety of difficulties. His approach to therapy is individualized, based on the needs of each unique client. He has worked with a variety of international organisations to help them develop their working environment in such a manner that best facilitates the psychological health of their workforce.   Mairi Albiston (MA, MSc, PhD, DClinPsy) is a Clinical Psychologist who lives in Glasgow. Mairi works as Head of Programme for Physical Health and for Supervision, within the Psychology Directorate of NHS Education for Scotland. She leads a teaching programme based on MI principles for staff working in the Scottish NHS and Partnership setting in physical health and dental settings. She qualified in 2005 and specialises in adult mental health (with a particular specialism in trauma) and physical health (including weight management, plastic surgery, stroke and cardiac specialisms). She used to work in a dental hospital in 2010 treating dental anxiety and she has a special interest in the Psychology of Dentistry. She also oversees and teaches clinical supervision skills. In her spare time she is a mad keen walker and busies herself with her 4 kids! Episode index: 0:00 – Episode intro 4:03 – Dougie’s and Mairi’s introduction and early MI stories 14:30 – Incorporating MI in dentistry training 19:15 – Zooming out from the mouth 23:15 – Cultural shifts in training programs 29:55 – MI in dentistry evidence base: Findings and future directions 39:30 – Sequencing of change 44:00 – Speaking change into reality 49:40 – Trauma informed care in dentistry 1:06:52 – End of episode Links and resources: – Email: Mairi.Albiston@nhs.scot and dougie.marks@glasgow.ac.uk – LinkedIn: Dr Mairi Albiston and Dr Dougie Marks  – Paper citation: Aiman H, Kilgariff JK, Marks D, Albiston M. Does motivational interviewing have a role in dentistry? Br Dent J. 2025 Feb;238(3):166-171. doi: 10.1038/s41415-025-8319-x. Epub 2025 Feb 14. PMID: 39953022. For suggestions, questions, and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing, contact Glenn & Sebastian: Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 90 – MI in Dentistry appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 89 – Doing and Being MI 01.09.2025 1h 20min

  Glenn and Sebastian bring you a different sort of episode. Recorded over three parts, plus a brief intro, they discuss a clinical scenario that Sebastian was involved with through the lens of Doing and Being MI. They consider the four elements of the MI spirit and discuss the technical element of evoking change talk. Episode index: 0:00 – Episode intro 2:07 – Part I begins 6:15 – Overview of the group 18:15 – How do we know if we are being helpful? 34:28 – Part II begins 47:00 – How does change talk fit? 1:03:30 – Part III begins 1:20:06 – End of episode For suggestions, questions, and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing, contact Glenn & Sebastian: Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 89 – Doing and Being MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 88 – Using Motivational Interviewing in Crisis Response 28.04.2025 1h 3min

  Episode 88 – Using Motivational Interviewing in Crisis Response Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Casey Jackson to discuss using Motivational Interviewing (MI) in crisis response situations. Casey is the CEO of the Institute for Individual and Organizational Change and an internationally recognised expert in evidence-based communication that drives real-world results. With over 40 years in behavioural health, Casey has trained thousands of professionals across healthcare, social services, first responders, and government—helping leaders and teams turn intention into lasting impact. He is a long-time member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and the lead author of the Motivational Interviewing Competency Assessment (MICA), a widely adopted tool for building fidelity in MI practice. Casey’s work centres on translating powerful communication strategies into practical tools that empower people to lead with clarity, connect with purpose, and create lasting change. Episode index: 0:00 – Episode intro 6:25 – Casey’s introduction and early MI story 10:30 – “How do we help people help people?” 13:45 – Bridging law enforcement with mental health 19:50 – Deescalating the brain with MI 29:15 – Helping police officers respond to people in crisis 34:15 – The five intentions/mindsets: 1) Activation; 2) Guiding; 3) Expressing accurate empathy; 4) Partnership; and 5) Evoking 43:05 – Beyond reflective listening 58:30 – Opening an MI-based clinic 1:03:16 – End of episode Links and resources: Email: casey.jackson@ifioc.com For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing, contact Glenn & Sebastian: Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 88 – Using Motivational Interviewing in Crisis Response appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 87 – Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing 08.04.2025 1h 1min

   Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing   Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Daniel Mullin, PsyD, MPH to discuss Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing. Dan is the Director of the Center for IPC and a Professor in the Department of Family Medicine and Community Health at UMass Chan Medical School. Dan is a clinician, educator, researcher, and consultant specializing in the integration of behavioral health and primary care services. He maintains a clinical practice embedded in the Barre Family Health Center, a rural family medicine residency practice in Massachusetts. Dan is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers and provides training in Motivational Interviewing to healthcare providers. He is a developer of the Practice Integration Profile, a measure of the integration of behavioral and primary care services.         Episode index:        0:00 – Episode intro      4:30 – Dan’s introduction and early MI story    10:08 – What is helpful about MI in high risk situations?    16:15 – “Your patient begins to teach you…”    21:10 – Making decisions based on thoughts    25:15 – IPC and why MI is a good fit    32:00 – Four principles of IPC: 1) Access; 2) Coordination; 3) Continuity; 4) Comprehensiveness    44:10 – Expanding the scope of practice for medical and behavioral health practitioners    48:35 – How MI offers a common language for integrated primary care    51:51 – Empathy as a way to “do no harm”    57:00 – Dan’s department celebrating its 50 year anniversary 1:01:02 – End of episode   Links and resources: Center for Integrated Primary Care website – https://www.umassmed.edu/cipc/ For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan     For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes   The post Ep 87 – Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 86 – Becoming a MINTie 20.03.2025 1h 7min

  Episode 86 – Becoming a MINTie Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr Colin O’Driscoll and several other guests to discuss how to become a MINTie, a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT). Colin is a Chartered Psychologist (PSI, BPS, HCPC) and accredited Psychotherapist (IACP). He’s a Fellow of the Psychological Society of Ireland (PSI). He is currently the MINT Training for New Trainers (TNT) Coordinator and clinical lead for Ireland’s Mid-West Addiction Services. Colin has a passion for evidence-based practice, coordinated care processes and multidisciplinary treatment procedures.    Additional Guests:       Kenzie Leffingwell, Director of Training & Development at First Choice Services is passionate about suicide prevention, a mission that comes from her own lived experience as a suicide survivor after losing her father to suicide. She holds a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Marshall University and a master’s in Human Services Counseling: Crisis Response and Trauma from Liberty University. Kenzie started her career at First Choice Services as a crisis counselor and, for the past year and a half, has served as the Director of Training and Development. In this role, she develops and tailors new hire trainings to meet the needs of her team, helping them feel confident and prepared to support the specific needs of those who use FCS services. As a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT), Kenzie loves empowering others to have compassionate, effective conversations about mental health and suicide prevention. Outside of work, Kenzie’s life is full. She’s a mom to three boys and three cats, and you can often find her cheering at the baseball field, kayaking, reading, or diving into a good game of Dungeons and Dragons.   Mark Bowley is a Western Australian based on Noongar Boodja country with a diverse background in pastoral care, youth justice, and workforce development. Beginning his career in retail, he later pursued studies in Christian Ministry and Counselling, leading him to chaplaincy in public high schools. There, he developed a passion for strengths-based and person-centred approaches, including Motivational Interviewing (MI). Mark spent over a decade in WA’s Juvenile Justice system, progressing from Youth Custodial Officer to Training Officer and team leader at the Department of Justice Academy. He has facilitated suicide prevention and mental health first aid training for more than 12 years. Now an AOD Workforce Development Officer with the WA Mental Health Commission, Mark delivers training in MI, Trauma-Informed Care, youth AOD interventions, and harm reduction. As a MINT member, he remains committed to growing as an MI practitioner and ensuring high-quality training for professionals across Western Australia.   Mark Powell, a registered psychiatric nurse and AOD clinician with 30+ years of experience, Mark leads WRAD Health an organisation, integrating specialist AOD care with medical and allied health services. Mark is passionate about motivational interviewing, as a core skill throughout his career fostering evidence-based, client-centered change. He champions family inclusion, dual diagnosis treatment, and facilitates Family SMART Recovery groups.         Ashley White, CMHC is a therapist and MI trainer based in Salt Lake City, Utah. She works at PARCKA (Program for Addiction Research, Clinical Care, Knowledge, and Advocacy), facilitating behavioral health research interventions and training for multidisciplinary practitioners, including healthcare professionals, in evidence-based approaches to behavior change. In her private practice, she integrates nature-based therapy and contemplative practices to support clients in deepening self-awareness and resilience. Passionate about social justice, she is dedicated to serving vulnerable populations, particularly those affected by addiction. Outside of work, she enjoys spending time with her kids and exploring the outdoors.     JOHN SEIVERT   Episode index:      0:00 – Information about the “Podcastathon” and how to donate to the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers Public Service Fund   01:25 – Episode preview   08:37 – Colin’s introduction and early MI story   13:00 – Colin becoming the Training for New Trainers (TNT) director    16:00 – How to become a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT)   21:05 – The importance of practice in learning MI   24:00 – What happens in a TNT   28:05 – Colin’s reflections on the recordings of recent TNT graduates   TNT graduate recordings:   33:48 – Kenzie Leffingwell   41:03 – Mark Bowley   48:53 – Mark Powell 1:12:00 – Ashley White 1:20:00 – John Sievert 1:26:10 – Reflections on recordings 1:07:26 – End of episode   Links and contact information: MINT Public Service Fund – https://motivationalinterviewing.org/donate  Becoming a MINT member – https://motivationalinterviewing.org/training-new-trainers Colin O’Driscoll – tnt@motivationalinterviewing.org  Kenzie Leffingwell – mckenzie.k.leffingwell@gmail.com Mark Bowley – Mark.Bowley@mhc.wa.gov.au Mark Powell – markp@wrad.org.au Ashley White – Ashley.white@hsc.utah.edu; https://medicine.utah.edu/internal-medicine/epidemiology/parcka/education-training/motivationalinterviewing John Seivert – johnseivert@me.com To contribute/donate to the MINT Public Service Fund as part of the global 2025 Podcastathon For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan     For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes   The post Ep 86 – Becoming a MINTie appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 85 – Ambivalence and Motivational Interviewing 04.02.2025 1h 30min

  Glenn and Sebastian were happy to welcome back Dr. Allan Zuckoff to the podcast to discuss ambivalence. Allan is a clinical psychologist who has dedicated the past 30 years to motivational interviewing (MI) research, training, implementation, and practice. As a clinician, teacher, and clinical researcher in the departments of psychology and psychiatry at the University of Pittsburgh for more than two decades, he oversaw intervention development, training, and fidelity monitoring for a dozen clinical trials testing novel applications of MI in substance use, mental health, and health behavior setting; he has presented widely at international meetings and published more than 40 articles and chapters on this work. More recently, he has been responsible for clinical innovation in design and execution of MI-based telehealth advance care planning and patient navigation programs.   Allan has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 1998. He served for nine years on MINT’s Board of Directors, including three as Chair, and was Editor of the MINT Bulletin and MINT’s online journal, Motivational Interviewing: Training, Research, Implementation, Practice (MITRIP). He has trained professionals from a variety of disciplines on three continents and served as a MINT trainer of trainers. He is the author of the self-guided MI book Finding Your Way to Change: How the Power of Motivational Interviewing Can Reveal What You Want and Help You Get There, published by Guilford Press and available in English, Dutch, Italian, and Spanish.   Episode index: 0:00 – Episode intro 10:10 – Allan’s introduction and early MI story 15:00 – The core of MI stays the same 23:10 – What is ambivalence? 27:10 – Ambivalence as a conflict within ourselves 31:15 – The role of values in separating the two sides of ambivalence 34:55 – Importance and confidence scaling 41:15 – Resonance as a metaphor 47:15 – Discord and the capacity to tolerate ambivalence 59:45 – The benefits of ambivalence 1:12:00 – Hidden ambivalence and the use of the Values Card Sort 1:20:00 – “There’s a good reason for everything that people do” 1:26:10 – “Foxes and hedgehogs” 1:30:15 – End of episode   Links and resources: – Allan’s email – allan@allanzuckoff.com – Allan’s website – www.allanzuckoff.com – Allan’s blog – https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/allan-zuckoff-phd – Allan’s book – Finding Your Way to Change: How the Power of Motivational Interviewing Can Reveal What You Want and Help You Get There. Guilford Press, 2015.   For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds     For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes   The post Ep 85 – Ambivalence and Motivational Interviewing appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction  07.01.2025 1h 7min

  Episode 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction Glenn and Sebastian welcomed David C. Hodgins, Ph.D., R.Psych., FCAHS, FRSC, to the program to discuss MI for gambling addiction. Dr. Hodgins is a professor in the Program in Clinical Psychology in the Department of Psychology, University of Calgary and is director of the Addictive Behaviours Lab at the University of Calgary. Dr. Hodgins is also a research coordinator with the Alberta Gambling Research Institute. His research interests focus on various aspects of addictive behaviours including relapse and recovery from substance abuse and gambling disorders. Dr. Hodgins teaches in the clinical psychology program and has an active cadre of graduate students. He maintains a private practice in Calgary in addition to providing consultation to organizations internationally.      Episode index: 0:00 – Opening and episode preview 05:56 – David’s background and early MI story  17:22 – Early work with people who gamble and the development of a self-help book 22:25 – Differences and similarities between gambling and other addictions 29:20 – MI for gambling  37:00 – Change talk and sustain talk in the context of MI with people who gamble 48:40 – Supporting the autonomy of people who gamble 53:40 – What is important for a gambling clinician to know? 1:01:38 – Working with industry to support harm reduction efforts 1:07:30 – End of episode     Contact info and related links: Email: dhodgins@ucalgary.ca  Learn more about David’s research and team: www.addiction.ucalgary.ca Workbooks and other self-help material: https://ucalgary.ca/labs/addictive-behaviours/resources/workbooks      For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction  appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 83 – MI with Couples 09.09.2024 1h 21min

  Episode 83 – MI with couples Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Tyrel Starks, PhD, onto the podcast to discuss his work on MI with couples.  A South Dakota native, Dr. Starks studied two years at Oberlin Conservatory before returning to the University of South Dakota to complete his undergraduate degree in psychology. He earned his PhD in child-clinical psychology from Southern Illinois University Carbondale in 2009. After a post-doctoral fellowship at Hunter College, he returned to join the faculty of the Psychology Department in 2014 and is now a professor. For more than 15 years, he has studied relationships and health, particularly substance use and HIV-related health in sexual minority men. The development of motivational interviewing with couples has been at the heart of this work. A licensed clinical psychologist and member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, he is active as a trainer and clinical supervisor.         Episode index: 0:00 – Opening and episode preview 04:42 – Tyrel’s journey from music to MI 13:15 – Intersection of HIV and substance use 21:25 – Early days of Tyrel’s work with couples 26:50 – MI with couples  31:10 – Relationship functioning before talking about change 38:00 – Balancing seeking consensus with evoking change talk 50:30 – Unique shifts for the practitioner: Introspection and use of language 57:20 – How might communication within the couple change? 1:12:20 – Future directions for MI with couples 1:15:45 – Cultivating common ground from political disagreements 1:21:59 – End of episode   Contact info and related links:   Email: tstarks@hunter.cuny.edu    Learn more about Dr. Starks’ research and team: https://www.hunterrhrt.org/    Read Dr. Starks’ blog about LGBTQ+ relationships:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/queer-relationships-no-straight-lines    Learn more about MI with couples:https://global.oup.com/academic/product/motivational-interviewing-with-couples-9780197549643?cc=us&lang=en&   MI in Groups: https://www.guilford.com/books/Motivational-Interviewing-in-Groups/Wagner-Ingersoll-Contributors/9781462507924    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 83 – MI with Couples appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 82 – MI at Home 05.08.2024 1h 11min

  Episode 82 – MI at Home Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Stephen Rollnick, PhD to the podcast to discuss the application of MI to conversations with family members. Steve is a clinical psychologist and Honorary Distinguished Professor in the School of Medicine, Cardiff, UK, and a co-founder of motivational interviewing.   He grew up in Cape Town, South Africa and lives in Cardiff, Wales. He was a practising psychologist in the UK National Health Service for 16 years, and then became a teacher and researcher on the subject of communication and behaviour change.     He has authored and co-authored books on motivational interviewing (Miller & Rollnick, 1991; 2001; 2012), and on applications in health care (Rollnick, Mason & Butler, 1999; Rollnick, Miller & Butler, 2007; 2022), schools (Rollnick, Kaplan & Rutschman, 2016) and sport (Rollnick, Fader, Breckon & Moyers, 2019).   He has published widely in scientific journals and has taught practitioners in many countries and continents. He has retired from his academic career and now focuses on projects in elite sport and healthcare.     Episode Index: 00:00 – Episode preview 07:18 – MI at home – where the idea started 13:08 – Steve’s story about working with mothers with babies infected with AIDS 20:00 – Steve recalls an article about MI at home written by his son Jake as a young man 27:30 – What else is there to change besides behavior? 46:50 – The importance of “restraint”  59:00 – Conversations with others at home (not just kids) 1:07:50 – Steve’s work with first responders and elite sportsmen 1:11:46 – End of episode   Contact information Website: www.stephenrollnick.com   X: @stephenrollnick    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 82 – MI at Home appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 81 – MI for Sport & Performance 08.07.2024 1h 4min

  MI for Sport and Performance Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Ben Freakley, CMPC on the podcast to discussed MI in sport and performance settings. Ben is a leader in the field of applied sport and performance psychology with a career spanning over two decades. He is the founder and CEO of Ready, Set, Resilient, which provides sports and performance psychology services to individuals, teams, and organizations.  Throughout his career, Ben has held several significant positions. He served as the Head of Mental Performance for the Toronto Blue Jays, where he led the development and delivery of mental skills programs across all levels of the organization. He was also the inaugural head coach and general manager of Tormenta FC in the United Soccer League (USL). His expertise extends to tactical environments, having worked as the performance psychology coach with the 75th Ranger Regiment of the United States Army Special Operations Forces.     Ben holds a doctoral degree in Sport and Performance Psychology with an emphasis in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. He is also a Certified Mental Performance Consultant (CMPC) through the Association for Applied Sport Psychology (AASP). His research focus areas include leadership preferences of NCAA Division One coaches and psychological frameworks that promote human flourishing.   Before his full-time work in sport and performance psychology, Ben spent over a decade as an NCAA College Soccer coach demonstrating his versatility and depth in coaching, psychology of performance, and team culture.    In his private practice, Ben works with executives and businesses, professional athletes and teams, and NCAA college athletics programs to help them evaluate and enhance their processes, performance, and well-being.  Ben is a sought-after speaker on topics such as resilience, mental performance, motivation, leadership, and organizational culture.     Episode index: 00:00 – Opening and episode preview 05:27 – Ben intro and early MI story 08:35 – Autonomy support in sport and military settings 15:01 – Shifting between following, guiding, and directing 17:20 – MI spirit in sport 24:45 – “Being a warm fire” 28:00 – Progressive sporting institutions 41:00 – What is success beyond winning? 43:00 – Situations in sport when MI helps 54:45 – Key points for coaches to learn and apply 1:04:14 – End of episode   Contact information: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ben-freakley-edd-cmpc-a5036bb1 Website: rsrcoaching.com   Email: bencfreakley@gmail.com    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 81 – MI for Sport & Performance appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 80 – Motivational Interviewing & Behaviourism 24.06.2024 57min

  Episode 80 – MI and Behaviourism   Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr James Anderson to the podcast to discuss MI and behaviourism. James is a psychologist and Chief of Psychiatry at Bassett Healthcare Network in Cooperstown, NY.  James is interested in the integration of behavioral health into primary care and improving the ability of our healthcare systems to provide whole-person care.  He has special interest in helping people struggling with addiction, and has published work on integrating accessible and effective treatment for opioid use disorder into primary care settings.  James takes a technically eclectic approach to offering psychotherapy intervention to patients in need, including use of cognitive-behavioral therapy, acceptance and commitment therapy, and of course, motivational interviewing.  Theoretically, James views the human condition from a radical behaviorist viewpoint, and contrary to the common view of such an approach as encouraging a mechanistic and cold world view, sees behaviourism as underlying a philosophy of acceptance and tolerance of others.   Episode index: 0:00 – Opening and episode preview 6:09 – James intro and early MI story 11:24 – What is behaviorism? 19:36 – How behaviorism fits with MI 25:16 – Behaviorism and compassion 39:11 – Applying behavioral concepts to conversations about change 51:21 – Psychedelic assisted therapy 57:18 – End of episode   Contact information:   Email: jamesbergeranderson@gmail.com   For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 80 – Motivational Interviewing & Behaviourism appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 79 – MI & Health Coaching 19.05.2024

  MI and Health Coaching   Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Amanda Gabarda, EdD and Susan Butterworth, PhD to discuss health coaching and Motivational Interviewing. Dr. Gabarda is currently the Senior Director of Clinical Training & Development at UPMC Health Plan where she is responsible for designing, scaling, and evaluating evidence-based training, quality assurance, and health behavior change interventions for digital, telephonic, and in-person health coaching and care management. Dr. Gabarda is passionate about combining coaching and behavior change science to empower individuals to live their best and healthiest lives. She has a Bachelor and Master of Science in Exercise Science, a Master of Public Health, and a Doctorate of Education. She is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, a National Board Certified Health and Wellness Coach, and a Certified Health Education Specialist. Dr. Susan Butterworth is currently an Associate Professor at the Center for Health System Improvement at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center and Director of Patient Engagement for the Tennessee Heart Health Network. Susan is also the founder of Q-consult, LLC which provides consulting and training services to large organizations to improve patient engagement and patient-centered care. Her clinical background is exercise physiology and she received her doctoral degree in adult education and training with a cognate in health promotion from Virginia Commonwealth University. Susan specializes in the application of motivational interviewing-based health coaching interventions in healthcare and is well-published in this area. In addition, she has been awarded or served on multiple grants to assess the impact of health coaching interventions in healthcare organizations including health plans, hospitals, and clinics. She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Networking of Trainers (MINT) since 2002.   Episode Index:           0:00 – Opening and episode preview          5:33 – Amanda and Susan’s introduction and early MI stories        11:30 – How MI changed the delivery of health coaching       16:00 – The psychology of lifestyle change       23:00 – What has been the response to MI from clients and organizations        30:00 – Coaching as a “vehicle for learning and growing and transforming”        36:30 – Coaching as a brief intervention       42:45 – How does a health coach fit into the healthcare system       49:55 – What is the experience of being a health coach       58:00 – Research on MI and health coaching    1:05:30 – Amanda and Susan learning about artificial intelligence    1:09:20 – Real-play with Susan and Sebastian    1:18:00 – Real-play debrief     1:26:24 – End of episode    Links and Contact Information: LinkedIn Amanda: linkedin.com/in/amanda-gabarda-edd-mph-nbc-hwc Susan: linkedin.com/in/susan-butterworth-qconsult   For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP   The post Ep 79 – MI & Health Coaching appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 78 – Self-Help MI 14.04.2024 1h 11min

  MI and Self-Help Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Michelle Drapkin, PhD, to discuss Motivational Interviewing and self-help. Dr. Drapkin has been working in the area of behavior change for over 20 years. She is the Owner/Director of the CBT Center and previously held roles in industry (Johnson and Johnson), academia (University of Pennsylvania and Rutgers) and federal government (Department of Veteran Affairs). She has dedicated her professional career to using psychological research to help people. She is a board-certified Clinical Psychologist and sees patients in her private practice, consults with healthcare tech start-ups, and delivers trainings and workshops on communication/motivation and health and wellbeing at work and in life. She is the sole author of The Motivational Interviewing Path to Personal Change: The Essential Workbook for Creating the Life You Want from New Harbinger Publications.     Episode Index:           0:00 – Opening and episode preview          4:42 – Michelle’s introduction and early MI story       10:55 – Enhancing motivation through behavioral principles       19:08 – “How does one do MI with oneself?”       24:20 – Self-compassion: Having a more effective relationship with our inner critic        30:20 – “A way of being with ourselves”       42:30 – Using Michelle’s self-help book       45:45 – Trying the “best self” exercise     1:08:25 – Michelle supporting her daughter    1:11:44 – End of episode    Links and Contact Information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelledrapkin/  Website: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/  Link to Michelle’s book: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/the-motivational-interviewing-path-to-personal-change/    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP   All episodes The post Ep 78 – Self-Help MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 77 – MI and Brain Injury 22.03.2024 1h 12min

  Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Russha Knauer to discuss her work applying MI with people who have experienced a brain injury. Russha has a BA in psychology and a master’s degree in Criminal Justice Administration. She joined the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers in San Diego in 2009.   Prior to joining the MINDSOURCE Brain Injury Network, she spent her 20 year career working in juvenile and criminal justice. She is interested in exploring how Motivational Interviewing can be adapted for use with people who have had an injury to the brain.    Episode Index:           0:00 – Opening and episode preview          5:05 – Russha’s introduction and early MI story: Learning and application of MI                             in juvenile justice settings       17:15 – Transition to working with people who have experienced brain injury       27:00 – Some challenges caring for people with brain injury       46:55 – Applications of MI    1:12:36 – End of episode    Links and Contact Information: Email: russha.knauer@state.co.us  Website: https://mindsourcecolorado.org/    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP   All episodes The post Ep 77 – MI and Brain Injury appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
• Ep 76 – MI For Burnout & Compassion Fatigue 04.03.2024 1h 5min

  Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Debra Collins, MA, LMFT to discuss MI as a way to reduce burnout and compassion fatigue. Debra has extensive experience in clinical practice, supervision and program management. She has been a program manager/clinical director in community-based clinics and has provided direct service, behavioral health consultation, program development, training, and supervision/coaching for a wide variety of social service, addiction and criminal justice settings.   Throughout her career Debra has organized and participated in Community Response Teams when communities have been faced with natural disasters, violent crimes, or other catastrophic events. She is an active member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) serving on the Reinstatement Committee and has presented at conferences, grand rounds, and panel discussions.    She is currently exploring how the Spirit of MI can support providers in reducing their risk of burnout and compassion fatigue and how the practice of MI might also be useful in helping providers explore their own ambivalence in utilizing self-care strategies.   Episode Index:           0:00 – Opening and episode preview          4:00 – Debra’s introduction and early MI story       15:40 – Burnout and compassion fatigue       19:30 – Where does the relationship go?       25:00 – How the MI spirit helps the helper        32:15 – Ask-Offer-Ask       39:00 – Taking better care of ourselves       51:48 – Being a “provider”     1:00:00 – Wondering how creativity intersects with wellness    1:05:14 – End of episode    Links and Contact Information: Email: debracollinsconsulting@gmail.com   Website: www.debracollinsconsulting.com    Resources Mentioned : Trauma Stewardship (2007). Authors: Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, Connie Burk https://traumastewardship.com/  Amishi Jha – Peak Mind https://amishi.com/  Compassionomics Authors: Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH Anthony Mazzarelli, MD, JD, MBE https://www.compassionomics.com/  Elizabeth Lesser https://www.facebook.com/ElizLesser/posts/739429870871482/?paipv=0&eav=AfbgpipK81xDeWhuBA8uX0WqQTCX7bChyB2ZVK8HG7J_gw697qCjMBtZzZ7otQCKzUk&_rdr    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 76 – MI For Burnout & Compassion Fatigue appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.