Legal4Tech - The podcast

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  Patent, patient, patience: IP law and AI for the public good with Phoebe Li 15.10.2026 1h 12min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we sit down with Professor Phoebe Li to explore the complex relationship between artificial intelligence, intellectual property and technology regulation. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation on how law, culture and society can shape the future of AI and ensure that technological progress reflects human values. Shownotes:WIPO Search Case Studies & Stories on Intellectual PropertyRecommended Practice for Design-Centered Human-Robot Interaction (HRI) and GovernanceNational Security and intellectual property protection of critical technologies PaperBBC Radio 4 Desert Island DiscsSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  Protection beyond Borders: Data Protection meets Child Protection in the UK and Beyond with Steve Wood 12.10.2026 50min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we speak with Steve Wood, former Deputy Commissioner at the UK Information Commissioner's Office, about the evolving landscape of data protection in Europe, the UK and beyond. Join us for a discussion on how regulators can protect privacy and children in an increasingly AI-driven digital world. Shownotes:Steve Wood's SubstackReport on the Impact of regulation on children's digital lives (May 2024)LSE's Research ProjectsSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  A Data Lawyer's honest advice: How to AI with Lilian Edwards 07.10.2026 1h 20min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we sit down with Lilian Edwards, Professor Emerita and expert in technology law, to explore the evolving relationship between technology, law and policy in the age of AI. Join us for a deep dive into the challenges of regulating the digital world and the future of internet law. Shownotes:Law, Policy, and the Internet (2nd edition), Lilian Edwards, Catalina Goanta, Lachlan Urquhart.Sponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  Alice through the looking Glasses: how to properly regulate Smart Glasses with Cristina and Ben (GIEF) 02.10.2026 50min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we sit down with Cristina Oliva-Patrick and Ben from the GIEF to examine the growing risks of AI-powered wearable technology. Join us for a timely discussion on whether AI wearables can coexist with privacy and why protecting anonymity in public spaces is essential for democracy. Shownotes:The Right to Be Anonymous: The Risks of AI-Powered Wearable Tech. Cristina Oliva Patrick, in collaboration with the GIEFSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  In Search of Research: does the GDPR harm Scientific Research in the EU with Enrico Glerean 30.09.2026 55min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech- The Podcast, we talk with Enrico Glerean, staff scientist at Aalto University and member of the EDPB support pool of experts, about how data protection shapes modern scientific research in Europe. Together, we unpack the new EDPB Guidelines 1/2026 on processing personal data for scientific research, drawing on Enrico's analysis of 132 consultation submissions and his hands-on experience supporting researchers in universities and AI factories. Shownotes:EDPB Guidelines 1/2026Anonymisation guidelines consultationSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  For the benefit of consumers, really?: AI transparency explained with Mathias Bruun 23.09.2026 47min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we sit down with Mathias Bruun, co-founder of the Copenhagen-based consultancy It Depends, to unpack the AI transparency obligation in Art. 50 of the EU AI Act. Drawing on Mathias' background in computational social science and consumer insights, we explore how AI-generated and AI-edited content should be labeled when it looks realistic to viewers. Sponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  EU Kids Act: What to Expect from the Commission Proposal with Patrick Grady & Peter Craddock 18.09.2026 1h 13min

  In this special episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we unpack the new EU approach to protecting minors online and regulating the services they use everyday. Tune in for a clear, critical tour of the newly proposed EU Kids Act. Shownotes:EU Kids Act ProposalSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  ‘How to get away with Tech Disputes’ - PT.1 with Fernanda and Gustavo from 3A ICDR 16.09.2026 55min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we sit down with Fernanda Flores and Gustavo Llorenz from the American Arbitration Association/ICDR to explore how modern arbitration and alternative dispute resolution shape the way rules work in practice. Join us as we go back to the origins of rules and discover how AAA-ICDR supports parties across borders through fair, efficient dispute resolution. Shownotes:2025 AAA Technology InfographicsAdditional AAA InfographicsClauseBuilder AIOriginal Version of ClauseBuilder AI2026 AAA-ICDR Technology Conference, November 3 New York City: A Century of Resolution: Cracking the Code of Technology DisputesSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  DSA v DMA: ChatGPT is a VLOSE, not a Gatekeeper with Alba Ribera Martínez 09.09.2026 44min

  In this season 3 opener of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we talk with Dr. Alba Ribera Martínez to unpack the European Commission's decision to designate ChatGPT as a VLOSE (Very Large Online Search Engine) under the Digital Services Act. Listen to understand Europe's evolving approach to AI and digital platform power. Shownotes:The Binary Agora, Dr. Alba Ribera MartinezChatGPT Designation as VLOSE (EC Press Release)Digital Services Act TextSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  Up to your Standards: Lessons on AI Standardisation from Up North with Ley Muller 12.08.2026 1h 7min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, Rosie sits down with Ley Muller, AI governance advisor and founder of "Values Driven AI", to unpack how European AI standards try to protect vulnerable groups while still enabling innovation. We dive into topics such as:Why AI standardization in Europe is so political and why it matters for fairness and vulnerability. How algorithms are reshaping hiring, HR and social media and what this means for young job seekers. What "algorithmic rights" under the AI Act and GDPR could offer in practice and where their limits are. Join us for a candid, critical look at the gap between AI standards on paper and the realities people face in their everyday lives.Shownotes:Why fairness cannot be automated: Bridging the gap between EU non-discrimination law and AIVerein KlimaSeniorinnen Schweiz and Others v. Switzerland (ECtHR, Grand Chamber)Sponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  GEMA v SUNO: Fair Remuneration rather than Fair Use 06.08.2026 45min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, Rosie sits down with GEMA legal counsel Armelle Grandjean to unpack the Suno AI ruling and its link to the earlier OpenAI case. Together, they explore: How AI models train on music and where copyright infringement begins. The Munich court's findings on memorisation, fair use and international jurisdiction under US and German law. What these decisions mean for licensing, fair remuneration and the future of creators in the age of AI. Tune in for a front-row look at how Europe is trying to balance innovation, cultural diversity and artists' rights in the AI era. Shownotes: Sponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  AI goes to College: the Reform that all Students will be chatting about with Kareem Mathias 31.07.2026 51min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we partner again with the GIEF and we talk with Kareem Mathias and Bennett Iorio to unpack the commentary "The Collapsing Credential: The AI Era Demands a New Model for Education".We explore topics such as:Why traditional degrees and credentials are "collapsing" in an AI-saturated world. Artifact-based education and assessing real-world skills beyond CVs and diplomas.How AI is reshaping the job market, university experience and pathways for the next generation. Why the erosion of trusted credentials threatens fairness, opportunity and democratic stability.Join us for a deep dive into education, AI governance and the future of merit in our societies. Shownotes: The Collapsing Credential: The AI Era Demands a New Model for Education, Kareem MathiasSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  'Super(re)vision': A Defence of the Innovation Mandate Theory with Dr. Mark Leiser 29.07.2026 1h 5min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, Rosie sits down with Dr. Mark Leiser to unpack his working paper "The Innovation Mandate: Making Europe's Digital Supervisory State Accountable for Rights, Growth and Scale". We explore topics such as:Why data protection authorities should explain their decisions and adopt supervisory impact statements. How legal certainty and regulatory transparency can foster innovation while preserving a hard rights floor. The risks of "innovation washing" by Big Tech, AI chatbots and LLMs in the EU's drive for innovation. Join us for a forward-looking conversation on rights, growth and scale in Europe's digital supervisory state. Shownotes:The Innovation Mandate: Making Europe's Digital Supervisory State Accountable for Rights, Growth and ScaleInnovation Mandate Lecture YTDr. Mark Leiser's LinkedIn post on Non-Personal Data is not one thingSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEFThe Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  That's a soft spot for machines: how to stay Human in the Age of AI with Sam Illingworth 24.07.2026 40min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast we partner again with the GIEF and talk with Professor Sam Illingworth to explore why human skills like judgement, empathy and critical reasoning must remain at the core of AI-powered societies. Together, we discuss:How students are really using AI in education, beyond stereotypes about cheating and shortcuts. Why automating decisions in courts, schools and welfare systems threatens democratic judgement and accountability. How law and politics shape social media bans, guardrails and even AI-written legislation. Join us for a grounded conversation on reclaiming human skills as "core skills" in the age of AI and what this means for law, policy and education. Shownotes:Reclaiming Human Skills as Core Skills in the Age of AI, Prof. Sam Illingworth & Bennett IorioSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEF. The Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  2026: a EU Space Odyssey - Space Sovereignty must come home with Maia Sacchetto & Davide Iannace 22.07.2026 55min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, Rosalia travels far beyond Earth with Maia Sacchetto and Davide Iannace to unpack Europe's emerging approach to space and resilience governance. We explore topics such as:The launch of the GIEF European Resilience program and its mission for democratic stability. How space governance fits alongside defense, cloud and data governance in the EU policy agenda. The role of rigorous research and policy evaluation in shaping future European institutions. Join us for a journey into the geopolitics of space and the future of European governance. Shownotes:Orbit Without Order: The Costs of Fragmented Space GovernanceSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEF. The Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  Fair Enough isn't Enough: Digital Fairness and Consumer Rights with Monika Namysłowska & Kasper Drazewski 17.07.2026 59min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we talk with Monika Namysłowska and Kasper Drazewski to unpack what digital fairness really means for European consumers today. They explore how endless scrolling, opaque data practices and thousands of micro-harms expose the limits of traditional consent-based protection and why ex-ante rules and unfair commercial practices law need to step up. Tune in to understand what's at stake if we get digital fairness wrong!Shownotes:Symposium on AI-induced psychosis (end of October): more information will be disclosed soonThe Social Dilemma - Netflix documentarySponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEF. The Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  Essentially Human: Regulating AI in light of Human Rights with Sue Anne Teo 15.07.2026 47min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech-The Podcast, we talk with human rights and AI expert Sue Anne Teo to unpack how artificial intelligence is reshaping our understanding of rights, power and justice. We explore topics such as:How international human rights and EU fundamental rights frameworks respond to AI-driven bias, power and structural injustice. The risks of anthropomorphic chatbots, from sycophancy and emulated empathy to emerging vulnerabilities and "AI psychosis".Global regulatory approaches to AI, including the EU AI Act, China's sectoral rules and US policy tools and their gaps on chatbots. The "Anthropomorphic AI and Emergent Vulnerabilities" research project and what long-term, real-world chatbot use mean for law and design standards. Join us for a deep dive into the sociotechnical, legal and ethical challenges posed by AI systems and chatbots in everyday life. Shownotes:Project website - "Anthropomorphic AI and Emergent Vulnerabilities"LinkedIn project launch postSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEF. The Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  Level Playstore Field: How to Empower UK consumers in the digital space with Liz Coll 10.07.2026 1h 3min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech-The Podcast, Rosie sits down with UK consumer advocate Liz Coll to explore how collective actions can turn complex digital rights into concrete justice for everyday app users. We dive into topics such as:How UK-style opt-out collective proceedings work for millions of Android users.The Google App store case and the 30% commission that may be passed on to consumers.Opt-in vs opt-out regimes across Europe and what they mean for access to redress. Strategic litigation, settlements and why better storytelling could change how people see consumer rights. Join us for a tour through the legal toolbox that's emerging to rebalance power between digital giants and their users. Shownotes:Google Play Store collective action - UK claim led by Liz CollSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEF. The Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  Generativity: Issue of AI Creativity and Legality with Paulina Jo Pesch 08.07.2026 1h 1min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we sit down with Assistant Professor Paulina Jo Pesch to unpack how generative AI really works and what that means for copyright and data protection law. We explore topics such as:How LLM are trained on text, probabilities and "temperature", beyond the myth of superintelligence.Whether training data, outputs and even the models themselves can count as personal data under EU data protection rules.Recent German court decisions on song lyrics, text and data mining and what they signal for creators, platforms and AI developers.The gap between hype, technical reality and legal safeguards in the age of generative AI.Join us for a clear deep dive into the legal and technical foundations of generative AI. Shownotes:Prof. Dr. Paulina Jo Pesch BioGema v. OpenAIGema v. SunoSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEF. The Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/
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  Measured Democracy: how to prioritise risks in the AI-powered democratic state with Claudio Novelli and Giulia Sandri 03.07.2026 57min

  In this episode of Legal4Tech - The Podcast, we speak with Claudio Novelli and Giulia Sandri about their paper "How to Detect and Measure the AI Dangers to Democracy", exploring how AI is reshaping democratic processes across Europe and the US. We explore topics such as:Principal-agent theory and why delegating democratic tasks to AI creates new risks for states, parties and citizens.The NIST AI Risk Management Framework and what "trustworthy AI" really means for elections, information ecosystems and accountability.How parties and governments already use AI in campaigns and public decision-making and what this implies for democratic backsliding and future governance.Join us for a nuanced conversation on measuring, prioritising and mitigating AI risks to democracy, without calling for a blanket ban on AI in the public sector.Shownotes: How to Detect and Measure the AI Dangers to Democracy, Giulia Sandri and Claudio NovelliSponsored by DigibeetleDigibeetle helps privacy, AI, and data professionals stay on top of EU digital law, with notifications, a daily dashboard, and powerful search across thousands of sources. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠https://digibeetle.eu⁠⁠⁠.Sponsored by GIEF. The Geopolitical Insight and Education Foundation is an independent policy and research think tank focused on stability in our democracies. Learn more at https://www.giefoundation.net/