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  Fiona Passantino — Why HR Must Lead AI Integration: AI Literacy, Training & the Human-Led Roadmap 30.06.2026 25min

  AI isn’t a tool — it’s a new kind of employee. Fiona Passantino explains why AI integration belongs to HR, not IT. Award-winning author of AI-Powered Leader and creator of the AI Integration Roadmap, Fiona makes the case that failed AI adoption is usually a training, governance, and leadership gap — not ”resistance.” With Aidan McCullen she covers mapping your adoption curve, baseline AI literacy and the EU AI Act, turning early adopters into a coaching centre of excellence, bringing ”hell no” holdouts over the line without splitting the organisation, phased L&D for departments and desk-less workers, and her ostrich-to-eagle roadmap for joyful, human-led AI. Inside Learning, hosted by Aidan McCullen, explores learning science and the future of work, and is produced by Learnovate. Subscribe to Inside Learning wherever you listen.
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  Rahim Hirji — Super Skills: The 7 Human Skills for the Age of AI 29.05.2026 23min

  Rahim Hirji says the skills AI can’t replicate are now your real edge — and most of us are drifting into an AI-shaped life without noticing. In this episode of Inside Learning, the Super Skills author explains the difference between algorithmic drift and intentional design, why losing ”busy work” is good news, and the ”human at the start” mindset that turns AI into a centaur-style partner instead of a replacement. He walks through all seven super skills: curiosity, change readiness, big picture thinking, principled innovation, empathy, global adaptability and the augmented mindset. Hosted by Aidan McCullen — 2025 Thinkers50 Innovation Award recipient and author of Undisruptable — Inside Learning explores learning science and the future of work. Subscribe to Inside Learning wherever you listen.
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  Future Work World with Barry Winkless 01.05.2026 28min

  In this episode of the Inside Learning Podcast from the Learnovate Centre, Aidan McCullen speaks with Barry Winkless, author of Future Work World, Chief Strategy Officer at Cpl, and Head of the Future of Work Institute. Barry explores how leaders can create organisations that attract, retain and empower talent while balancing the need for hyper-efficiency with the reality that organisations are also living systems. He explains why future-of-work change must begin with mindset, introducing three leadership roles from the book: the Destination Designer, the Societal Whisperer, and the Systems Architect. These mindsets help leaders build a shared language before they redesign work, talent, culture or technology. The conversation also explores the four-part journey of Future Work World: mindset, “meta waves”, the “mixing desk” of 16 innovation areas, and “move”, where immersive storytelling helps people emotionally connect with change. Barry shares how music, science fiction and nine fictional near-future vignettes shaped the book’s style. Aidan and Barry discuss “work type salads”, where organisations blend permanent employees, contractors, consultants, gig workers, temporary talent and specialist networks to create strategic advantage. They also explore “wisdom worlds”, using AI inference, immersive learning and tacit knowledge capture to build deeper organisational capability. The episode closes with Barry’s view of the shift from mono careers to poly careers, where individuals increasingly become the heroes of their own working lives and organisations become part of their journey. Chapters 00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro 00:58 Why Write This Book 01:36 Music and Storytelling Style 04:36 Mindset Comes First 05:34 Three Leadership Mindsets 11:13 Mixed Desk Equalizers 14:34 Meta Waves and Work Type Salad 18:30 Wisdom World and Skills Tech 22:25 New Hero Journey Careers 26:55 Where to Find Barry
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  Bankable Foresight: The New Skill Leaders Need in the AI Era 31.03.2026 25min

  How do you make the right decisions in a world that’s moving faster than ever? In this episode of Inside Learning, Aidan McCullen is joined by tech humanist and author Kate O’Neill to explore how leaders can navigate AI, uncertainty, and rapid change—while keeping people at the centre of every decision. From the risks of action vs. inaction to the power of “bankable foresight,” Kate shares practical frameworks to help you think more clearly, act more confidently, and shape better futures. A must-listen for leaders, educators, and anyone preparing for the future of work and learning. Inside Learning is brought to you by Learnovate, the global experts in the future of work and learning, based at Trinity College Dublin and funded by Enterprise Ireland and IDA Ireland. Find Learnovate:https://learnovatecentre.org Fina Kate: https://www.koinsights.com
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  Design Cognition, Cognitive Diversity & AI Teammates with Kathryn Jablokow 01.03.2026 26min

  Kathryn Jablokow joins Aidan McCullen to explore design cognition—how different people think while solving problems—and why cognitive diversity is a superpower for high-performing teams. They also discuss AI as a teammate, including how to prompt for truly different perspectives and avoid “yes-man” answers for better decisions and creativity.
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  Unveiling Creative AI: Insights with Maya Ackerman 01.02.2026 30min

  In this episode of The Inside Learning Podcast, hosted by the Learnovate Centre, Aidan McCullen speaks with world-renowned AI researcher and Creative Machines author Maya Ackerman about the rise of generative AI and its impact on human creativity. The conversation explores the hidden history of AI-generated creativity, from early computational creativity pioneers to modern large language models. Maya explains how scientists define creativity — novelty, value, and surprise — and how machines are beginning to operate inside that same creative space. The episode also examines the capabilities and limitations of generative AI, the ethical challenges of treating AI as an “all-knowing oracle,” and why the future of creativity lies in human-AI collaboration rather than replacement. Listeners will gain practical insight into how tools like Lyric Studio enhance human expression, how AI reflects human culture and bias, and what leaders must understand as creative AI reshapes work, learning, and society. 00:00 Introduction to the Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 Meet Maya Ackerman: AI Researcher and Author 01:08 The Unknown History of AI-Generated Creativity 02:50 Defining Creativity: Human and Machine Perspectives 03:58 The Ethics and Risks of AI in Creativity 05:35 Collaborative Creativity: Humans and AI Working Together 10:23 The Evolution of AI: From Expert Systems to Neural Networks 16:36 AI’s Reflection of Human Society 22:07 The Future of AI and Human Creativity 29:18 Conclusion and Where to Find More Find Maya: https://maya-ackerman.com/
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  Integrating AI and Gamification for Engaging Education: Insights from Kahoot!'s Sean D'Arcy 29.11.2025 22min

  In this episode of Inside Learning, brought to you by the Learnovate Centre, host Aidan McCullen is joined by Sean D’Arcy, Chief Solutions Officer at Kahoot!—Europe’s largest EdTech platform. They explore the post-pandemic challenges in education, including dwindling student attention and motivation, and how tools like Kahoot! are helping teachers reimagine engagement through gamification, interactivity, and now AI. Sean shares how Kahoot! supports both K-12 and higher education through AI-powered quiz creation, student-led learning, and real-time feedback. The conversation also dives into the role of AI in personalized education, how workplace learning is evolving with Gen Z, and how organizations can rebuild culture and performance post-layoffs. Key Takeaways: How AI is enhancing teacher productivity and learner engagement Shifts in learner psychology and classroom expectations Practical strategies for using Kahoot in classrooms and corporate training Insights into upskilling, microlearning, and future-ready skills The role of gamified learning in improving retention and morale post-layoffs Perfect for educators, L&D professionals, and anyone passionate about the future of learning. Find the articles mentioned here: https://kahoot.com/blog/2025/10/06/training-after-layoffs-3-strategies-to-rebuild-engagement-and-performance/
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  Do More in Four: The Case for a Four-Day Workweek 31.10.2025 28min

  Experts Joe O’Connor and Jared Lindzon join Aidan McCullen to explore how a four-day workweek can boost productivity, well-being, and talent retention. Drawing on their book Do More in Four, they discuss the historical roots of the five-day week, how AI is reshaping work, and practical steps for individuals and organisations to make shorter weeks a sustainable reality.
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  Debunking AI Myths: Insights from Sangeet Paul Choudary on the Future of Work 10.10.2025 30min

  Welcome to another episode of The Inside Learning Podcast brought to you by the Learnovate Centre, where we explore the impact of AI on the future of work. In this episode, we are joined by Sangeet Paul Choudary, the author of 'Reshuffle,' to debunk common fallacies about AI, such as 'AI won't take your job, but somebody using AI will.'  Sangeet dives deep into understanding how AI restructuring workflows, altering organizational logic, and redistributing power. Using real-life examples from various industries, he explains how we should refocus from task-level to system-level thinking to truly understand the changes AI brings. Sangeet discusses the importance of skills like curiosity and curation and provides actionable insights on how to stay valuable in an AI-driven world. Tune in to learn more about the fallacies of automation and augmentation, productivity gains, and the new value industry coordination layers bring.   00:00 Introduction to the Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 Debunking the AI Job Replacement Myth 01:02 Understanding the Systemic Impact of AI 02:06 Introducing the Guest: Sangeet Paul Choudary 02:23 Unpacking the AI Job Replacement Fallacy 02:53 The Automation vs. Augmentation Debate 04:25 The Typist Example: A Case Study 06:42 Skills for the Future: Curiosity and Curation 10:58 The Productivity Gains Fallacy 11:13 Coordination vs. Creation: Capturing Value 15:54 The Workflow Continuity Fallacy 17:18 The Neutral Tools Fallacy 21:30 The Stable Salary Fallacy 24:16 The Stable Firm Fallacy 25:22 Practical Takeaways for the Future of Work 29:49 Conclusion and Resources   Find Sangeet on Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/platforms/p/the-many-fallacies-of-ai-wont-take?r=jzz68&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Find Reshuffle: https://amzn.to/46NGtvv  
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  Productive Failure: A New Paradigm for Learning with Manu Kapur 18.09.2025 23min

  Productive Failure: A New Paradigm for Learning with Manu Kapur What if the best way to learn isn’t to get it right the first time—but to fail first? In this episode of Inside Learning, we’re joined by Manu Kapur, author of Productive Failure. Kapur introduces a radical shift in how we think about education and training: instead of shielding learners from mistakes, we should intentionally design for failure as the gateway to deep understanding. We explore: 1. Why traditional Direct Instruction often fails even when delivered by excellent teachers. 2. How novices “can’t see what they don’t yet know” — and why the first job of teaching is to prepare them to see with an expert’s eyes. 3. The science behind Productive Failure — from Activation to Awareness, Affect, and Assembly. 4. Evidence showing that Productive Failure can produce learning gains three times greater than conventional methods. 5. Practical ways educators, trainers, and leaders can create safe, curated failure experiences that build resilience, creativity, and deeper transfer of knowledge. As Kapur puts it: “Fail first, learn later.” Join us for a conversation that challenges the way we teach, train, and even think about learning itself. Find out more here: https://www.productivefailure.com
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  Design for How People Learn with Julie Dirksen 15.07.2025 34min

  Unlocking Effective Learning with Julie Dirksen | Inside Learning Podcast In this episode of the Inside Learning Podcast, brought to you by the Learnovate Centre, we dive deep into the principles of effective learning with special guest Julie Dirksen, author of ’Design for How People Learn’ and ’Talk to the Elephant.’ Julie and host explore topics such as designing impactful learning experiences, the role of habit formation, and the importance of understanding learner objectives. Julie shares insights on overcoming resistance to change, leveraging AI in learning, and the importance of bridging knowledge gaps. This engaging conversation is a must-watch for educators, instructional designers, and leaders aiming to create meaningful and sustainable learning environments. Learn more about the science of learning and the future of work at LearnovateCentre.org. 00:00 Introduction to the Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 The Importance of Effective Learning Experiences 01:02 Welcome Julie Dirksen: Author and Learning Expert 02:27 Communicating Learning Objectives 08:15 Challenges of Unlearning and Adapting to Change 20:13 Bridging Learning Gaps and Behavioral Science 26:39 The Expert’s Perspective and Effective Learning Design 29:14 The Closet Analogy: Organizing Knowledge 32:10 Conclusion and Where to Find More Find Julie: https://usablelearning.com/the-books/
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  The Brain, Learning, and the Future of Work with Dr. Helena Boschi 09.06.2025 22min

  In this episode of ’Inside Learning,’ brought to you by the Learnovate Centre, Dr. Helena Boschi, author of ’Why We Do What We Do,’ delves into the mysteries of the human brain and its pivotal role in learning and behavior. Host Aidan McCullen explores with Dr. Boschi the brain’s function as a ’prediction machine,’ its adaptation in the digital age, and the impacts of technology on cognitive abilities and attention spans. Key insights include practical neuroscience-backed techniques for enhancing learning and memory, the importance of physical exercise, and maintaining social connections for brain health. Dr. Boschi also emphasizes the power of neuroplasticity and the need for continuous learning in today’s fast-changing world. Tune in to glean valuable tips for maximizing your brain’s potential and fostering a thriving, adaptive workforce. 00:00 Introduction to Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 Understanding the Brain: The Prediction Machine 03:18 Impact of Technology on the Brain 06:08 Neuroscience-Backed Learning Techniques 13:43 Challenges of Remote Work and Digital Workspaces 18:13 Neuroplasticity: Adapting to Change 21:33 Conclusion and Contact Information Find Helena: https://www.chequeredleopard.com
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  Contingent Leadership with Victoria Pelletier 03.05.2025 20min

  In this episode, we discuss the concept of contingent leadership with Victoria Pelletier, author of ’Influence Unleashed’ and ’Unstoppable.’ We delve into Apple’s history with Steve Jobs to illustrate the evolving nature of leadership and the necessity for businesses to adopt flexible, future-oriented workforce strategies. Victoria shares insights on the importance of combining talent acquisition methods, the gig economy, and the need for a mindset shift in both leadership and HR practices. Additionally, she emphasizes the role of personal branding and innovation in today’s dynamic work environment. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your workforce and adapt to rapid industry changes. 00:00 The Rise, Fall, and Return of Steve Jobs 00:39 Introducing Victoria Peltier and Contingent Leadership 01:11 Exploring Contingent Leadership 02:44 The Gig Economy and Workforce Evolution 05:10 Challenges and Opportunities in Fractional Work 07:42 The Role of HR in a Changing Workforce 09:25 Education and Career Mindset Shifts 17:54 Building a Personal Brand 20:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Find Victoria here: https://victoria-pelletier.com
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  Exploring Learning Innovation with Graham Brown-Martin 02.04.2025 35min

  In this episode, we delve into the world of learning innovation with Graham Brown-Martin, author of ’Learning Reimagined’. Graham shares his journey from working on mainframe computers at the Open University to pioneering educational technology in the 1980s. We explore key topics such as the contrast between instructionism and constructionism, the evolution of the education system, the impact of neurodiversity, and the future of work in the age of automation. Graham’s unique insights highlight the need for a systemic transformation in education and the crucial role of diverse thinking in driving innovation. Join us for an enlightening conversation on the transformative power of learning and technology. 00:00 Introduction to Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 Guest Introduction: Graham Brown-Martin 01:51 Early Career and Mainframe Computers 02:39 Educational Software and the Micros in School Scheme 05:12 The Shift from Instructionism to Constructionism 18:21 The Role of Neurodivergence in Innovation 23:46 The Future of Work and Education 34:15 Closing Remarks and Contact Information Find Graham https://www.grahambrownmartin.com Find those Vimeo videos: https://vimeo.com/showcase/8802420
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  AI, Skills Gaps and The Future of Work with Calum Chace 06.03.2025 22min

  In this episode of Inside Learning, host Aidan McCullen speaks with Calum Chace, an expert on artificial intelligence and the author of several bestselling books, including ’Surviving AI’ and ’Pandora’s Brain’. They discuss the concept of two singularities: the Economic Singularity, where AI renders many jobs obsolete, and the Technological Singularity, where AI surpasses human intelligence. Calum highlights the potential impacts of these advancements on society and the necessity for proactive planning to avoid negative outcomes. They also delve into the challenges and opportunities of AI in education and the importance of developing skills for an unpredictable future. Calum further shares insights into his company, Conscium, which focuses on machine consciousness, AI agent verification, and neuromorphic computing. 00:00 Introduction to the Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 Guest Introduction: Calum Chase on AI and Singularity 03:06 The Economic Singularity Explained 04:22 The Future of Jobs and Skills 05:07 Planning for a Post-Job Economy 09:38 The Role of Education in an AI-Driven World 14:21 Calum Chase’s Journey and Conscious AI 19:46 Final Thoughts and Call to Action 22:02 Where to Find More from Calum Chase 22:37 Closing Remarks Find Conscium:  https://conscium.com Find Calum: https://calumchace.com Calum’s books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/author/B00PUM096S/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=a0c6289a-6402-4e04-919b-973799060636&ref_=ap_rdr
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  Navigating Your Career: Michael B. Horn on Job Progress 31.01.2025 26min

  In this episode of the Inside Learning Podcast, brought to you by the Learnovate Center, Michael B. Horn discusses his new book ’Job Moves: Nine Steps for Making Progress in Your Career,’ offering valuable advice for those feeling stuck in their careers. He delves into the importance of understanding personal progress in career choices, the concept of ’jobs to be done,’ and why thinking about experiences rather than perks is crucial when assessing job opportunities. Horn also sheds light on the necessity of cataloging personal capabilities and making informed decisions based on the trade-offs in any job role. This episode is packed with actionable insights for both individuals navigating their careers and employers aiming to retain talent. 00:00 Introduction to the Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 Navigating Career Transitions 00:48 Introducing Michael Horn and His New Book 02:09 Understanding Job Progress and Choices 04:30 The Jobs to Be Done Theory 05:33 Applying the Theory to Career Choices 17:09 Evaluating Your Career Assets and Liabilities 20:43 Making Informed Career Decisions 25:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Find all sheets and information on the book here: https://www.jobmoves.com
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  Revolutionising Music Education - Moombix Founder Margret Juliana Sigurdardottir 30.11.2024 14min

  Revolutionizing Music Education - Moombix Founder Margret Juliana Sigurdardottir Join us for an inspiring episode of Inside Learning brought to you by the Learnovate Centre. In this episode, we dive into the future of music education with Margret Juliana Sigurdardottir, founder of Moombix. Discover how Margret is addressing the challenges adult learners face in accessing quality, flexible music lessons and how Moombix is building a global community of music enthusiasts. Learn how the platform connects learners with expert teachers worldwide and provides innovative digital tools to enhance the learning experience. Don’t miss this discussion on how COVID-19 accelerated the shift to online music education and the exciting potential of Moombix to democratize music learning. 00:00 Introduction to Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 Challenges in Music Education 01:35 Margret’s Musical Journey 03:59 Founding of Moombix 05:36 Impact of COVID-19 on Music Learning 06:55 Features of Moombix Platform 10:09 Global Reach and Cultural Exchange 13:01 How to Get Started with Moombix 13:53 Conclusion and Credits Find Moombix at https://www.moombix.com
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  Embracing the Access Economy with Sara Daw 02.11.2024 26min

  In this episode of The Inside Learning Podcast, hosted by Aidan and brought to you by the Learnovate Center, we dive into the transformative concept of the access economy with special guest Sara Daw. Sara, the author of ’Strategy and Leadership as Service: How the Access Economy Meets the C-Suite’, provides insightful definitions and real-world applications of the access economy. The discussion highlights the advance of mobile technology and the younger generation’s focus on social capital, which drive the shift from ownership to on-demand access. Sara introduces the idea of psychological ownership and its pivotal role in the access economy, particularly for sharing professional C-suite services. The conversation also explores the gig economy, portfolio work, and the integration of AI in the evolving workforce. Learn how individuals and organizations can adapt and thrive in this new economic landscape. Visit LearnovateCenter.org for more insights on the future of work and the science of learning. 00:00 Introduction to the Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 Understanding the Access Economy 03:22 Psychological Ownership in the Access Economy 05:07 The Gig Economy and Portfolio C-Suite 12:23 AI’s Impact on the Future of Work 16:40 Sara Daw’s Research and Insights 21:49 Future of Education and Mentorship 24:05 Conclusion and Contact Information
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  Elliot Masie Live on E-Learning and Innovation at Learnovation 2024 05.10.2024 15min

  Join us for a special episode of the Inside Learning Podcast, recorded at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin, with Elliot Masie, a key innovator in e-learning since the 1990s. Elliot discusses the evolution of digital learning, the intersection of learning and innovation, and the role of creativity and storytelling in education. The conversation also covers the impact of AI on learning and work, and the need for continuous learning and adaptation in today’s fast-paced digital world. Elliot emphasizes the importance of asking the right questions, embracing failure as a path to success, and fostering a learning culture within organizations. Learn more about these insights, challenges, and opportunities for the future on this engaging episode, brought to you by the Learnovate Centre. 00:00 Introduction to Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 Welcome Elliot Masie to Dublin 01:08 Elliot Masie’s Contributions to eLearning 01:55 The Role of Creativity in Learning 03:24 Impact of the Pandemic on eLearning 05:43 The Future of AI in Learning 11:16 Continuous Learning in the Corporate World 13:56 The Importance of Performance in Learning 15:06 Conclusion and Contact Information Find Eliot here: https://www.masie.com/elliott-masie
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  Exploring Xperiential Learning with Elyse Klaidman 02.09.2024 44min

  In this episode of the Inside Learning Podcast, brought to you by the Learnovate Centre, we dive into the transformative power of experiential learning with Elyse Klaidman, co-founder of X in a Box and Story Experiential. Elyse shares her extensive background, including her 22-year tenure at Pixar as Creative Director and her pivotal role in forming Pixar University. We discuss the growing demand for alternative education paths such as project-based virtual apprenticeships, the importance of storytelling in learning, and the innovative ways to make education more inclusive and impactful. Elyse also highlights the journey of creating initiatives like Pixar in a Box and emphasizes the significance of integrating creative learning methods in today’s educational systems to equip students for the future. Tune in for insights on the future of education, creativity, and innovation. 00:00 Introduction to the Inside Learning Podcast 00:15 The Evolution of Education and Alternative Learning Paths 01:01 Guest Introduction: Elyse Klaidman’s Journey 02:33 Early Influences and Teaching Beginnings 04:41 Experiential Learning at the Lab School of Washington 08:03 Joining Pixar and the Birth of Pixar University 12:30 The Impact and Growth of Pixar University 16:55 Leadership Development and the ROI of Training 20:34 Transition to X in a Box and Experiential Learning 28:41 The Vision and Future of X in a Box 42:06 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Find Elyse and Story Xperential here: https://www.storyxperiential.com Find X in Box Courses here: https://www.xiab.org/companies education, experiential learning, Pixar University, Story Experiential, X in a Box, Elyse Klaidman, Aidan McCullen, Learnovate Centre, Inside Learning Podcast, innovation, leadership development, equity in education, storytelling, interdisciplinary learning, project-based learning, community feedback, AI and education, neurodiversity, inclusive education