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  How the Bible Reads the Bible (Gary Edward Schnittjer) Ep. #263 30.07.2026 55хв

  How should Christians study the Bible? Does Scripture itself teach us how it should be read? In this episode of The Biblical Mind, Dru Johnson is joined by Dr. Gary Edward Schnittjer, distinguished professor of Old Testament for Cairn Theological Seminary at Cairn University, to discuss his new book, Connected: How Scripture Guides the Study of Scripture. Together they explore why the Bible should be interpreted on its own terms rather than through modern assumptions, and how the biblical authors model faithful reading of Scripture itself.The conversation begins with the challenges of teaching today's college students, biblical literacy, and how classroom practices have changed over the past three decades. From there, Schnittjer explains why the Bible's literary artistry, historical context, and overarching narrative are essential for understanding God's revelation. Rather than treating Scripture as isolated verses, he argues that the Bible presents one unified story centered on God's covenant relationship with humanity through Jesus Christ.Along the way, Dru and Gary discuss intertextuality, the importance of reading biblical books within their historical setting, why ancient treaties help illuminate covenant language, and even why Nehemiah might be "the first American" in the Bible. This episode offers practical wisdom for pastors, students, and everyday readers who want to read the Bible more faithfully and discover how Scripture itself teaches us to study Scripture.Order Dr. Schnittjer's new book, Connected: How Scripture Guides the Study of Scripture: https://bhacademic.bhpublishinggroup.com/product/connectedSee more from Dr. Schnittjer at his Substack: https://CarpentersStudent.comContact us at The Biblical Mind: Click HereWe are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://thebiblicalmind.org/give/For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/Social Links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThoughtInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthoughtThreads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthoughtX: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThoughtBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.orgChapters:00:00 Introduction and podcast format01:32 Primary hurdles in biblical teaching02:35 Changes in seminary and college classrooms04:03 Teaching biblical discovery to college students07:02 Adapting teaching methods for modern students10:36 Classroom dynamics and student engagement13:33 The impact of technology and culture on biblical understanding17:50 Using treaties to understand biblical covenants21:07 The significance of Jesus as a connection maker26:36 The metaphor of connectedness in Scripture30:28 Visualizing the biblical story as a scroll34:31 The importance of genre and context in Scripture40:07 The role of historical background in biblical interpretation45:36 Developing biblical wisdom through diverse genres50:52 Nehemiah as an American archetype54:18 Closing remarks and book recommendations See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Can International Politics Be ‘Biblical’? Laws, Nations, & Ordered Loves (Robert Joustra) Ep. #262 23.07.2026 54хв

  In this episode, Dr. Robert Joustra explores how Scripture and the Christian tradition provide a framework for thinking about war, nationalism, justice, and international politics in a complex and divided world.
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  Reconstructing Deconstruction: It Doesn't Have to Be This Way (Joel Wentz) Ep. #261 16.07.2026 53хв

  Faith deconstruction has become one of the defining conversations in modern Christianity—but what does it actually mean to deconstruct your faith? In this episode of The Biblical Mind Podcast, Dru Johnson sits down with pastor, YouTuber, and book reviewer Joel Wentz to explore why so many Christians are questioning their beliefs and how those questions can lead to deeper spiritual maturity rather than cynicism.Drawing from his own experience growing up in evangelical Christianity, Joel shares how wrestling with doctrines like hell, eschatology, and biblical interpretation led him through a season of deconstruction before discovering a richer understanding of historic Christian faith. Together, Dru and Joel discuss the difference between sincere faith exploration and tearing down beliefs for their own sake, the role of church culture and church hurt, why asking difficult questions is deeply biblical, and how the Nicene Creed and church history provide stability amid uncertainty.The conversation also explores theological humility, the importance of Christian tradition, the dangers of intellectual arrogance, and how pastors, churches, and Christian communities can create safe spaces for honest questions without abandoning biblical orthodoxy.Whether you're personally deconstructing your faith, walking alongside someone who is, or simply want to understand one of today's most important conversations in Christianity, this episode offers thoughtful, compassionate, and biblically grounded wisdom.Visit Joel's youtube channel (Click Here), or his Patreon (Click Here)Contact us at The Biblical Mind: Click HereWe are listener supported. Give to the cause here:https://thebiblicalmind.org/give/For more articles:https://thebiblicalmind.org/Social Links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThoughtInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthoughtThreads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthoughtX: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThoughtBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.orgChapters:00:00 Introduction to Deconstruction and Faith04:56 Different Understandings of Deconstruction06:03 Interrogating Inherited Beliefs Without Negativity08:16 Biblical Questions and Cultural Fears09:39 The Skeptical Mood of Scripture10:53 Questioning in the Bible: Examples from Scripture12:26 Personal Stories of Faith and Questioning16:30 Deconstruction of Eschatology and Hope19:11 The Compelling Vision of the Renewed Earth21:24 The Impact of Eschatology on Personal Hope23:42 Starting the YouTube Journey During COVID25:03 Sharing Faith and Books Online27:24 Encouraging Questions and Faith in Community28:51 Balancing Questions and Faithful Answers30:38 The Dangers of Going to Foundations Without Humility31:48 The Role of Sincerity and Humility in Deconstruction33:10 The Pool Analogy: Standing in the Water34:41 Rich Christian Thought on Deconstruction Questions36:24 Historical Answers to Faith Questions38:31 Healing Through Confession and Love40:30 Trust and Gentle Care in Discipleship42:00 The Continuum of Beliefs and Non-negotiables44:32 The Nicene Creed and Core Doctrines45:58 Evolving Views on Doctrine of Hell49:00 The Journey from Open Theism to Classical Theism52:31 The Impact of Doctrine on Prayer and Spiritual Life55:09 The Richness of Christian Thought and Tradition See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Israel-Palestine Conflict: More Complicated Than You Think (Robert Nicholson) Ep. #260 09.07.2026 1год 24хв

  The Israel-Palestine conflict is one of the world's most complex and emotionally charged issues—but how should Christians think about it with both historical honesty and theological humility?In this episode of The Biblical Mind Podcast, Dru Johnson welcomes Robert Nicholson for a thoughtful response to a previous conversation about Being Christian After the Desolation of Gaza. Together, they explore competing historical narratives surrounding Israel, Palestine, Zionism, Hamas, the Oslo peace process, and the lasting impact of October 7. Rather than reducing the conflict to political slogans, they examine the fears, aspirations, and failures on both sides while asking what responsible Christian engagement should look like.The conversation addresses difficult questions about Palestinian leadership, Israeli security concerns, Christian perspectives on nationalism, colonialism, and violence, as well as the role of Palestinian Christians within a predominantly Jewish-Muslim conflict. Throughout, Robert argues that genuine understanding requires careful attention to history, humility in theological judgment, and a commitment to seeking peace without ignoring reality.Whether you're wrestling with Christian ethics, biblical theology, Middle East history, or contemporary geopolitics, this episode offers a nuanced framework for thinking beyond headlines and ideological caricatures toward wisdom, empathy, and faithful discipleship.Listen to the episode Robert is responding to: Click HereContact us at The Biblical Mind: Click HereWe are listener supported. Give to the cause here:https://thebiblicalmind.org/give/For more articles:https://thebiblicalmind.org/Social Links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThoughtInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthoughtThreads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthoughtX: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThoughtBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.orgChapters:00:00 Understanding the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict03:45 The Role of Christians in the Holy Land06:14 Perceptions and Misconceptions of American Christians10:03 The Complexity of Palestinian Sentiments14:04 The Impact of Leadership on Peace Efforts15:21 Historical Context of the Conflict18:57 The Need for Strong Leadership21:51 Fear and Victimhood in the Conflict25:11 Breaking the Cycle of Violence28:05 The Path Forward for Peace40:48 Crafting a New Narrative for Peace43:48 The Israeli Perspective Post-October 7th52:08 Understanding the Conflict: Historical Context and Narratives01:01:59 The Experience of Arab Israelis and Palestinians01:11:54 Christian Perspectives on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Should Christians Watch Horror Movies? Fear as a Spiritual Teacher (Kutter Callaway) Ep. #259 02.07.2026 46хв

  Can Christians watch horror movies? Is horror merely entertainment, or can it reveal profound theological truths? In this episode of The Biblical Mind Podcast, Dru Johnson sits down with theologian and film scholar Dr. Kutter Callaway to explore why horror has become one of today's most influential storytelling genres—and why Christians should take it seriously.Drawing from his new book, Be Afraid: What Horror Reveals About Facing the Darkness, Callaway argues that great horror doesn't simply frighten audiences; it exposes deep truths about evil, suffering, trauma, sin, and the human condition. Together, Dru and Kutter examine the horrifying stories already found in Scripture—from the Levite's concubine in Judges to the crucifixion—and ask what these passages have in common with modern horror films.The conversation also explores why supernatural horror resonates with younger generations, how films like Get Out, The Babadook, Hereditary, and Midsommar wrestle with inherited trauma and cultural fears, and why interpreting films in community resembles reading the Bible in community. Whether you're skeptical of horror or an avid fan, this episode offers a thoughtful biblical framework for understanding fear, art, and the stories that shape our imaginations.Learn more about Kutter Callaway at his website! (Click Here)Order his latest book (click here)We are listener supported. Give to the cause here:https://hebraicthought.org/giveFor more articles:https://thebiblicalmind.org/Social Links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThoughtInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthoughtThreads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthoughtX: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThoughtBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.orgChapters:00:00 Defining Horror: A Genre Exploration02:46 Horror in Biblical Texts: A New Perspective06:14 The Role of Horror in Understanding Humanity09:00 Personal Experiences with Horror and Its Impact16:09 The Supernatural vs. Slasher Horror: A Comparative Analysis21:12 Cultural Reflections in Horror Films22:16 Exploring Horror and Societal Trauma25:12 Artistic Truths in Horror Films28:01 Parent-Child Dynamics in Horror30:26 Emerging Voices in Horror Cinema32:42 Reflections on Personal and Societal Sin35:31 Horror as a Reflection of Societal Fears37:02 Engaging with Horror: Questions to Consider41:11 Community Interpretation of Art and Scripture See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Were Ancient Synagogues Town Halls with a Torah? (Jordan Ryan) Ep. #258 25.06.2026 54хв

  What were synagogues actually like in the time of Jesus? Were they places of worship, centers of local government, or something entirely different?In this episode, archaeologist and New Testament scholar Dr. Jordan Ryan joins Dru Johnson to challenge common assumptions about ancient synagogues. Drawing on archaeological discoveries, ancient texts, and the writings of Josephus, Philo, and the New Testament, Ryan explains why synagogues in the first century looked and functioned very differently from both modern churches and modern synagogues.The conversation explores the origins of synagogues, their possible connection to city gates in the Hebrew Bible, and their role as “town halls with Torah” in Judea and Galilee. Ryan discusses ritual purity, mikva’ot (ritual baths), Torah and prophetic readings, public debate, and the surprising evidence that synagogue gatherings were highly interactive communal events rather than passive worship services.Listeners will also hear fresh insights into the ministry of Jesus, including what happened when he taught in synagogues, whether men and women sat separately, why rabbis were not yet a formal office, and why Jesus seems to have avoided major cities like Tiberias and Sepphoris.This episode offers a fascinating glimpse into Jewish life, worship, and community in the world of Jesus and the early church.We are listener supported. Give to the cause here:https://hebraicthought.org/giveFor more articles:https://thebiblicalmind.org/Social Links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThoughtInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthoughtThreads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthoughtX: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThoughtBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.orgChapters:00:00 Understanding Synagogues: Misconceptions and Functions05:00 Origins of Synagogues: Historical Perspectives07:48 The Role of Synagogues in Ancient Jewish Society11:39 Worship Practices in Ancient Synagogues14:21 Ritual Purity and Preparation for Synagogue20:37 The Experience of Attending Synagogue on Shabbat25:21 Scriptural Readings and Teachings in Synagogues28:12 The Role of Discussion in Torah Readings33:44 Understanding the Origins of Rabbis39:08 The Structure and Function of Ancient Synagogues44:15 Jesus in the Synagogue: A Cultural Perspective See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Israel, Palestine, & Christian Responsibility: A Challenging Conversation (Fisk & Bannoura) Ep #257 18.06.2026 1год 32хв

  In this wide-ranging conversation, Dru Johnson sits down with theologians Daniel Bannoura and Bruce Fisk, contributors to Being Christian After the Desolation of Gaza, to explore the Israel-Palestine conflict through the lens of Palestinian Christian experience. Drawing on history, theology, and personal experience, Bannoura and Fisk argue that the crisis in Gaza cannot be understood apart from the broader history of Zionism, Palestinian displacement, and the ongoing struggle for justice and human dignity in the region.The discussion examines the relationship between Christianity, Christian Zionism, and modern Israeli politics, while also addressing questions of antisemitism, Palestinian identity, settler violence, military occupation, and competing historical narratives. Dru pushes back on several claims, creating a thoughtful exchange that highlights both areas of agreement and disagreement.The episode also explores how biblical interpretation shapes political views, why many Western Christians know little about Palestinian Christians, and how younger generations are rethinking the Israel-Palestine debate. Throughout the conversation, the guests challenge listeners to consider what Christian faithfulness, neighbor love, and justice look like in the aftermath of Gaza’s devastation.This is the first installment of a deeper discussion on theology, politics, Israel, Palestine, Gaza, and the future of Christian engagement with one of the world’s most contested conflicts. Buy the book here:https://wipfandstock.com/9798385254859/being-christian-after-the-desolation-of-gaza/ We are listener supported. Give to the cause here:https://hebraicthought.org/giveFor more articles:https://thebiblicalmind.org/Social Links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThoughtInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthoughtThreads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthoughtX: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThoughtBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.orgChapters:00:00 Understanding the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict09:25 The Impact of Historical Narratives12:21 The Legacy of Imperialism and Its Effects16:56 The Complexity of Regional Conflicts20:02 The Current Reality in Israel and Palestine22:13 The Call for Justice and Equality26:14 The Future of Christian Engagement in the Conflict30:26 The Security Dilemma: Perspectives on Israeli Actions31:27 Shifting Narratives: The Impact of October 7th33:04 Defining Zionism: Perspectives and Misconceptions37:15 Zionism and Its Evolution: A Critical Examination42:56 Settler Violence: A Growing Concern49:18 The Realist Perspective: Understanding the Conflict54:06 Christian Zionism: A Complicated Legacy57:55 The Complexity of Middle Eastern Politics01:00:43 The Role of Arab Nations in the Israel-Palestine Conflict01:04:11 Understanding Gen Z's Perspective on Israel and Palestine01:09:02 The Nuances of Violence and Power Dynamics01:13:27 Guiding the Next Generation of Christians01:17:28 The Call for Radical Love and Justice See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Reimagining Biblical Politics: A New Podcast (Michael Rhodes, Marshall Teague) Ep. #256 11.06.2026 32хв

  What does the Bible actually say about politics, and how should Christians engage public life in an age of division and polarization? In this inaugural episode of Reimagining Biblical Politics, biblical scholar Michael Rhodes joins co-host Marshall Teague to explore the foundational claim at the heart of Scripture: God reigns. Rather than offering partisan talking points or commentary on current political controversies, Rhodes argues that the Bible presents a rich and often-overlooked vision of political discipleship rooted in the kingdom of God. Drawing from his experiences living and serving in economically marginalized communities in Memphis, Nairobi, and Auckland, Rhodes explains how questions of justice, poverty, public life, and community inevitably led him to reconsider the relationship between faith and politics. The conversation introduces key themes from his book, Reimagining Biblical Politics, including the distinction between "outpost politics"—how God's people live together as citizens of God's kingdom—and "pilgrim politics"—how Christians engage the broader society around them. Listeners will discover why the language of kingdom, gospel, peace, and savior was deeply political in the biblical world, why Scripture offers far more than a few isolated verses on government, and how a renewed understanding of biblical politics can help Christians faithfully navigate public life today. Listen to more of Reimagining Biblical Politics (Click Here) We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org     See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Are we Doomed to Lonely and Isolated Lives? No. (Alan Noble) Ep. #255 04.06.2026 43хв

  What does it mean to truly live well in an age of loneliness, distraction, and endless self-improvement advice? In this episode, Dru Johnson sits down with Alan Noble to discuss his new book on the seven Christian virtues and why recovering ancient wisdom may be the key to human flourishing today. Together they explore how virtues such as courage, temperance, prudence, justice, faith, hope, and love shape a life rooted in Christ rather than in modern self-help culture. The conversation examines the growing loneliness epidemic, the difference between "thin" online communities and meaningful relationships, and why many young adults struggle with agency, friendship, dating, and purpose. Noble argues that virtue is not a life hack or productivity technique but a lifelong process of spiritual formation empowered by the Holy Spirit and cultivated within Christian community. Dru and Alan also tackle the relationship between faith and works, discuss mentorship and the loss of intergenerational wisdom, and explore why courage may be one of the most important virtues for our cultural moment. From social media and smartphone habits to friendship and discipleship, this episode offers practical and theological insights for Christians seeking to live faithfully in a fragmented world. Order Alan Noble's latest book, To Live Well, here: https://www.ivpress.com/to-live-well? We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Points of Resistance and Challenges in Teaching Virtues 02:40 Virtues as Pathways to Live Well in Christian Life 04:02 Grace, Works, and Righteousness in Christian Practice 05:25 Community and the Need for Thick, Committed Groups 08:33 The Problem of Thin Communities and Society's Disconnection 10:30 The Role of Wisdom and Mentorship Across Generations 13:25 The Importance of Affirmation and Love in Community 15:17 Healthy Groups and the Balance of Affirmation and Correction 16:59 Scriptural Foundations for Virtues and Character Traits 18:19 The Significance of Courage and Temperance for Young Adults 26:32 Understanding Courage in the Context of Inhibition and Risk 32:53 Practical Steps to Cultivate Virtues and Live Well 39:24 Starting the Journey Toward Virtue and Reflection 40:32 The Role of Prayer and the Holy Spirit in Virtue Formation 43:05 Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  When Helping Still Hurts (Brian Fikkert) Ep. #254 28.05.2026 45хв

  In this episode, Dru Johnson interviews Dr. Brian Fikkert about poverty, charity, economic development, and the role of the church in helping vulnerable communities flourish. Drawing from decades of experience in poverty alleviation and Christian mission, Fikkert explains why many well-intentioned efforts to help the poor can unintentionally create dependency, undermine dignity, and fail to address the deeper relational causes of poverty. The conversation explores key themes from When Helping Hurts, including the difference between relief, rehabilitation, and development, as well as how churches and nonprofits can better serve communities both locally and globally. Fikkert also discusses the spiritual dimensions of poverty, the importance of restoring human dignity, and why effective compassion requires long-term relationships rather than quick fixes. This episode is essential listening for Christians, pastors, missionaries, nonprofit leaders, and anyone interested in biblical justice, economic development, and sustainable poverty alleviation. If you care about faith, generosity, missions, and helping people in ways that truly empower them, this conversation with Brian Fikkert offers practical wisdom and a deeply biblical framework for serving others well. To learn more about Dr. Fikkert's work at the Chalmers Center Click Here.    We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Understanding Poverty: A New Perspective 03:01 The Role of Relationships in Alleviating Poverty 06:08 The Complexity of Helping: Individual vs. Systemic Issues 08:46 Practical Approaches to Helping the Poor 11:49 The Gospel's Role in Poverty Alleviation 14:53 Building Trust and Relationships with the Poor 23:17 The Long Arc of Love 24:06 Different Callings to Serve the Poor 25:41 The Importance of Messy Relationships 26:51 Supporting Effective Ministries 28:37 Understanding Structural Injustice 30:10 The Individualistic Nature of American Christianity 31:58 Advancing the Conversation on Helping 34:22 The Right Story of Human Flourishing 35:27 The Flaws of the American Dream 38:40 Returning to Our True Habitat 41:06 The Work of the Chalmers Center     See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Are There Other Gods in the Bible?: James Duguid on Divine Council (James Duguid) Ep. #253 21.05.2026 1год 1хв

  Did the biblical authors believe in a divine council of heavenly beings surrounding God? In this episode, Dru Johnson sits down with Hebrew Bible scholar Jamie Duguid to unpack one of the most controversial debates in modern biblical scholarship: the meaning of “sons of God” in Deuteronomy 32 and the growing influence of Michael Heiser’s Divine Council worldview. The conversation explores the Hebrew phrase bene elohim, the Divine Council interpretation of Deuteronomy 32:8, and whether the Bible presents Yahweh as ruling among other divine beings. Duguid and Johnson examine the textual evidence behind the debate, including the Masoretic Text, the Septuagint, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Samaritan Pentateuch, Syriac translations, and Isaiah 40–55. They also discuss Genesis 6, Psalm 82, angels, demons, ancient Near Eastern religion, monotheism vs. henotheism, and why the Divine Council framework has become so influential through scholars like Heiser. If you’ve wondered whether the Bible teaches the existence of other gods, spiritual powers, or a heavenly council, this episode offers a careful, scholarly, and deeply accessible exploration of one of the Bible’s most fascinating theological questions.   Read more of Dr. Duguid's work here: https://www.quaerendum.com/   We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to the Divine Council Debate 07:14 Understanding Elohim and Divine Beings 13:22 The Role of the Divine Council in Scripture 18:52 The Importance of the Masoretic Text 24:55 Exploring Alternative Texts: Septuagint and Samaritan Pentateuch 31:04 The Impact of the Dead Sea Scrolls on Biblical Texts 33:21 Exploring the Dead Sea Scrolls 35:39 Textual Variations in Biblical Manuscripts 40:11 Theological Implications of Textual Differences 45:18 Assessing the Nature of Divine Beings 51:57 Reconceptualizing Godhood in Scripture 56:57 Critiques and Responses to Heiser's Work   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Is Job a Trauma Survivor?: Suffering, PTSD, and Healing in the Bible (Michelle Keener) Ep. #252 14.05.2026 42хв

  What if the Book of Job is not primarily about explaining suffering—but about surviving trauma? In this episode of The Biblical Mind Podcast, Dru Johnson sits down with Old Testament scholar and licensed therapist Michelle Keener to explore the Book of Job through the lens of trauma, PTSD, lament, and healing. Drawing from her book Comfort from the Ashes, Keener argues that the long poetic sections of Job—often skipped by modern readers—may actually portray the slow process of trauma recovery rather than abstract theological debate. Together, Dru and Michelle discuss why Job’s friends sound so much like modern Christian clichés, how churches often rush people past suffering toward “victory,” and why lament is essential to spiritual health. The conversation also explores the neuroscience of trauma, the body’s involuntary survival responses, repetition in trauma processing, and how God’s presence—not simplistic answers—brings healing in Job. They also examine the church’s discomfort with anger, grief, and unresolved pain, asking whether modern Christians have lost the biblical language of lament found in Job and the Psalms. This episode is a thoughtful and deeply pastoral conversation for anyone wrestling with suffering, trauma, faith, or the meaning of the Book of Job. For Michelle Keener's latest book, buy it here: https://www.ivpress.com/comfort-in-the-ashes We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Job and Common Misunderstandings 02:08 The Movie Tree of Life as an Exposition of Job 04:07 Is Job the Oldest Book in the Bible? 05:23 The Significance of the Middle Poetry in Job 06:22 Trauma and the Messy Middle of Job 08:17 Sitting with Suffering: The Role of Lament and Honesty 09:42 Job as a Trauma Survivor and Its Modern Relevance 11:55 The Process of Healing and God's Presence 14:07 Physiological Responses to Trauma and Divine Design 16:50 Reintegration of Trauma and the Role of Narrative 19:44 The Encounter with God as Resolution 22:40 Creating Trauma-Informed Church Spaces 24:37 The Power of Honest Testimony and Lament 26:42 The Ubiquity of Trauma Talk and Its Nuances 29:48 Language of Trauma: Distress, Wounded, and Healing 33:40 Ripple Effects of Trauma on Families and Communities 36:11 How to Approach Reading Job for Deep Understanding 38:18 Interpreting Job's Final Resolution and God's Response 40:20 Theological Insights: God's Goodness and Human Suffering 41:18 Conclusion: Healing and Hope in the Biblical Narrative See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  What Hegseth Gets Wrong About Pharisees (Jeffrey Garcia) Bonus Episode 11.05.2026 22хв

  In this episode, biblical scholar Jeffrey Garcia joins Dru Johnson to unpack one of the most misunderstood groups in the New Testament: the Pharisees. Prompted by recent public comments from U.S. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, the conversation explores how the term “Pharisee” has often been used as a caricature for hypocrisy—and why that misunderstanding can contribute to anti-Jewish and anti-Semitic attitudes. Drawing from the Gospels, Acts, ancient Judaism, and the Dead Sea Scrolls, Dr. Garcia explains that the Pharisees were not simply legalistic villains opposed to Jesus. Instead, many Pharisees shared substantial theological ground with Jesus and were actively engaged in serious debates about how to faithfully live out God’s commandments. The episode also examines how Christian preaching has historically oversimplified the Pharisees, why phrases like “Christ killer” emerged from these distortions, and how pastors and churches can teach the New Testament more responsibly today. We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Understanding the Pharisees: Context and Misconceptions 08:47 The Pharisees and Their Relationship with Jesus 17:45 Navigating Modern Discourse on Pharisees and Anti-Semitism   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Vocation vs. Career vs. Calling (Steven Garber) Ep. #251 07.05.2026 58хв

  What does it truly mean to have a vocation—and how is it different from a career? In this thought-provoking conversation, Steven Garber and Dru Johnson explore the deep disconnect between faith and everyday work, challenging the dualism that separates “spiritual” callings from ordinary life. Garber argues that vocation is not reserved for clergy or religious roles but is integral to the mission of God. Drawing from biblical theology, church history, and lived experience, the discussion highlights how modern culture often reduces calling to career success, income, or personal fulfillment—leaving many disillusioned. Together, they unpack the tension between vocation and occupation, the myth of “doing what you love,” and the overlooked dignity of ordinary work—from parenting to manual labor. The conversation also addresses the Protestant work ethic, the confusion between money and meaning, and why younger generations struggle with career pressure and purpose. With insights shaped by L’Abri, Hebraic thought, and a lifelong exploration of what it means to be human, Garber offers a compelling vision: true vocation is about coherence—aligning who we are with how we live in the world. This episode is essential listening for anyone wrestling with calling, work, and the search for a meaningful life. Dr. Garber's books can be bought here: https://www.ivpress.com/steven-garber We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Understanding Vocation: Common Misunderstandings 03:03 The Role of Dualism in Vocation 04:55 Biblical Literacy and Vocation 06:41 The Protestant Work Ethic and Its Implications 12:07 The Nature of Work: Toil and Redemption 18:19 The Value of Work Beyond Monetary Gain 20:48 The Importance of Ordinary Work in the Church 24:45 Vocation vs. Occupation: Understanding the Difference 29:22 The Influence of Labrie on Personal Development 33:56 The Value of Delayed College Education 41:37 Exploring the Human Condition 47:59 The Role of Truth in Storytelling and Society See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  C.S. Lewis Under the Microscope: Biblical Accuracy, Errors, and Influence (Leslie Baynes) Ep. #250 30.04.2026 51хв

  In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Leslie Baynes explores the complex relationship between C.S. Lewis and the Bible. While Lewis is widely celebrated for his theological insight and literary brilliance, Baynes’ research uncovers a more nuanced reality—one where Lewis occasionally misquotes scripture, relies heavily on memory, and even attributes statements to Jesus that do not appear in the Gospels. Drawing from her book Between Interpretation and Imagination: C.S. Lewis and the Bible, Baynes examines both Lewis’s profound contributions and his interpretive missteps, including his famous “liar, lunatic, or Lord” argument.  The episode also tackles the cultural phenomenon of “Saint Lewis,” particularly among American evangelicals, and the resistance to critically evaluating his work. Yet, rather than dismissing Lewis, Baynes advocates for a balanced perspective—appreciating his literary and spiritual impact while engaging his ideas with scholarly rigor. This episode is essential listening for anyone interested in biblical interpretation, theology, and the enduring influence of one of Christianity’s most beloved thinkers. You can buy Dr. Baynes' book here: https://www.eerdmans.com/9781467469708/between-interpretation-and-imagination/   We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to C.S. Lewis and Evangelical Perception 03:00 The Complexity of C.S. Lewis's Legacy 05:57 Navigating Criticism in Lewis Studies 08:59 The Role of Biblical Scholars in Lewis's Work 12:06 The Trilemma: Liar, Lunatic, or Lord? 14:45 Gender Dynamics in Scholarly Critique 23:55 The Influence of Michael Ward 26:01 Critique of C.S. Lewis's Biblical Interpretation 27:15 Misquoting Jesus: The Dangers of Inaccurate Scripture 31:11 The Problem with Lewis's Scriptural Assertions 33:24 The Adulterous Woman: A Misplaced Argument 38:26 Lewis's Misunderstanding of Greco-Roman Literature 40:14 C.S. Lewis and the Chronicles of Narnia 44:30 A Hermeneutics of Love 47:23 C.S. Lewis: A Public Intellectual?   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Rethinking Women in Ministry: From Genesis to Paul (Preston Sprinkle) Ep. #249 23.04.2026 53хв

  What does the Bible actually say about women in church leadership—and are we asking the wrong questions? In this episode, Dru Johnson sits down with biblical scholar Preston Sprinkle to explore the complex, often misunderstood topic of gender roles in Scripture. Drawing from his book From Genesis to Junia, Sprinkle shares his “exegetical journey,” a multi-year study that avoids predetermined conclusions and instead carefully examines key biblical texts. Together, they challenge modern assumptions often imposed on Scripture, including Western ideas about equality, hierarchy, and leadership. The conversation highlights how women are portrayed throughout the Bible—from influential figures in the Old Testament to faithful disciples in the Gospels—and why these narratives matter for interpreting passages like 1 Timothy 2. They also unpack how leadership functioned in the early church, revealing a more fluid and diverse structure than many assume today. Rather than offering simplistic answers, this episode invites listeners to wrestle with the full biblical witness, appreciate its complexity, and approach the conversation with humility, patience, and deeper study. Whether you’re complementarian, egalitarian, or still exploring, this discussion offers fresh insight into one of the church’s most debated topics. You can buy Dr. Preston Sprinkle's latest book here: https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/9780830785803_from-genesis-to-junia? We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 The Journey of Understanding Women in Leadership 02:58 Cultural Context and Biblical Interpretation 13:04 Women in the Old Testament vs. New Testament 18:11 Exegetical Challenges and Practical Applications 23:42 The Complexity of Prescriptive and Descriptive Narratives 25:50 Theological Rationale in Creation Order 27:39 Desire and Headship: A Deeper Look 28:09 Authority and Epistemic Roles in Relationships 29:37 Leadership Dynamics in the Early Church 32:43 Paul's Perspective on Gender Roles 36:59 Women in Paul's Ministry: A Closer Examination 40:00 Cultural Context and Gender Stereotypes 41:50 Celebrating Gender Differences in Leadership   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Inside the Bible Business: The Story behind Publishing the NIV (Paul Caminiti) Ep. #248 16.04.2026 1год

  In this episode, former Bible publisher Paul Caminiti shares an insider look at the global Bible industry, revealing surprising truths about how Scripture is translated, marketed, and consumed. From his leadership role at Zondervan to overseeing millions of Bible sales annually, Caminiti uncovers the business dynamics behind modern Bible publishing—including why Bibles remain the bestselling book every year. The conversation dives into the creation of the New International Version (NIV), exploring the complex, expensive process of translation and the ongoing scholarly debates between “word-for-word” and “thought-for-thought” approaches. Caminiti also recounts the intense “Bible wars,” where cultural, theological, and political pressures clashed over gender-inclusive language in Scripture. Despite record-breaking sales—over 25 million Bibles sold annually in North America—Bible reading continues to decline. Caminiti explains why, pointing to fragmented reading habits, over-engineered study Bibles, and the unintended consequences of chapter and verse formatting. Ultimately, this episode challenges listeners to rethink how they engage with Scripture, introducing a fresh approach that emphasizes immersive, communal reading over isolated study—offering a compelling vision for rediscovering the Bible’s original impact. Buy the Immerse Bible here: https://ourdailybreadpublishing.org/immerse-bible.html We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 The Bible Publishing Industry: Surprises and Insights 04:34 The Economics of Bible Publishing 10:44 Translation Challenges and Scholarly Rigor 17:43 Navigating the Bible Wars 24:27 Marketing Strategies and Media Reactions 30:11 Controversies in Bible Translation 31:53 Understanding Gendered Language in Translation 35:26 The Bible's Bestselling Status vs. Reading Trends 39:10 The Dilemma of Bible Sales vs. Engagement 42:10 Introducing the Immersed Bible 51:13 The Impact of Reading Order on Understanding Scripture See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Was Paul a Philosopher? Rethinking the Apostle as Rabbi and Thinker (Joseph Dodson) Ep. #247 09.04.2026 49хв

  How should we understand Paul—as a rabbi, a philosopher, or something else entirely? In this episode, Dr. Joseph Dodson explores Paul as a figure who operates within both Jewish and Greco-Roman intellectual worlds. Rather than forcing a choice between “rabbi” or “philosopher,” the discussion shows how Paul embodies elements of both. He is deeply trained in the Scriptures of Israel and interprets them with methods recognizable within Jewish tradition, yet he is also conversant with the philosophical categories and rhetorical practices of the wider Greco-Roman context. This dual identity helps explain both the content and the form of Paul’s letters. His arguments are not abstract theological constructions detached from history, nor are they merely repetitions of inherited tradition. Instead, they represent a dynamic engagement with Scripture in conversation with the intellectual world of his day. The episode highlights how modern readers often flatten Paul into one category or another, missing the richness of his thought. By recovering Paul as both rabbi and philosopher, we gain a clearer picture of how he communicates the significance of the Messiah to diverse audiences. Ultimately, this approach invites us to read Paul with greater historical sensitivity and intellectual nuance. For Joseph Dodson's latest book, buy it here: https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/9798400500527_paul-the-rabbi-philosopher-stoic-and-jewish-philosophy-in-the-apostles-thought We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Understanding Paul: Context is Key 02:09 Paul as Rabbi Philosopher: Bridging Two Worlds 09:58 The Apocalyptic Paul: A New Perspective 14:16 Politics and Philosophy: Paul's Counter-Cultural Message 18:09 Sin and Systemic Issues: A Deeper Understanding 20:03 The Law's Weakness: Setting the Stage for Grace 25:54 The Role of Law and Spirit in Paul’s Theology 27:39 Paul as Rabbi and Philosopher 28:48 Paul's Relationship with the Hebrew Text 29:43 The Wisdom of Solomon and Paul 33:06 Paul's Jewish Identity and the Law 35:01 Paul's Approach to Gentiles and the Law 36:53 Paul's Communication Style and Cultural Fluency 38:27 The Genius of Paul 41:07 The Connection between Nietzsche and Paul’s Philosophy 43:00 The Unique Voice of Paul in the Church See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  Bible First: The Bible And Politics Go Great Together, But How? (Mike Tolliver) Ep. #246 02.04.2026 46хв

  In this episode, Mike Tolliver and Dru Johnson reflect on the inaugural Bible First conference on politics, assessing both its successes and its limitations. Designed to “cut through the noise” of contemporary political commentary, the conference aimed to resource Christians with biblically grounded thinking rather than culturally inherited assumptions.  The conversation highlights a central tension: while many speakers engaged important historical and theological insights, fewer fully embodied the “Bible First” methodology by tracing political concepts directly through Scripture. This revealed a broader challenge within the church—namely, the difficulty of grounding political theology in the narrative and legal frameworks of the Bible, especially the Torah. Key takeaways include the importance of defining contested terms like “Christian nationalism,” the need to examine how cultural assumptions shape biblical interpretation, and the value of recovering categories such as nationhood, law, and kingship from within Scripture itself. The hosts also reflect on memorable contributions from the conference, including themes of dual citizenship in the kingdom of God and fresh biblical frameworks for understanding the nations. Ultimately, the episode frames the conference as a successful first step—one that raised better questions, exposed gaps, and set the stage for more focused, Scripture-driven conversations in the future. We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to the Conference on Politics in the Bible 03:30 Defining Christian Nationalism and Its Implications 05:19 The Concept of 'Bible First' in Political Theology 09:42 Key Takeaways from the Conference Papers 15:49 The Role of Torah in Understanding Political Ethics 21:15 Coercive Power and Its Biblical Context 23:37 Understanding Nationhood and Identity 30:09 The Role of Law in Ancient Israel 31:27 Natural Law vs. Revealed Law 33:17 Expectations of Kingship and Governance 36:48 Future Topics for Discussion See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  The Truth About Iran: Religion, Power, & the Rise of Underground Churches (Farhad Rezaei) Ep. #245 26.03.2026 45хв

  Is Iran truly an Islamic nation—or is that a misconception shaped by politics and media? In this episode, Dru Johnson speaks with political scientist Dr. Farhad Rezaei, who offers an insider’s perspective on religion, culture, and power in modern Iran. Contrary to common assumptions, Rezaei explains that only a minority of Iranians actively identify as Muslim, with many describing themselves as secular, non-religious, or spiritually unaffiliated.  At the same time, Iran is experiencing what Rezaei calls a “religious revolution”: a dramatic rise in Christian conversions, growing from just a few hundred in 1979 to millions today. This growth is occurring despite severe consequences, including imprisonment or even death for those who convert. As a result, many believers gather in secret “house churches,” where Bible study and worship continue underground. The episode also explores how state enforcement of Islamic law has paradoxically contributed to widespread disillusionment. As Iranians became more familiar with official religious teachings, many concluded that they conflicted with their cultural identity and moral intuitions. Rezaei also provides insight into the political realities of the Iranian regime, the treatment of religious minorities, and the broader geopolitical tensions shaping the region today. Ultimately, this conversation challenges listeners to rethink simplistic narratives and better understand the complex religious landscape within Iran. We are listener supported. Give to the cause here: https://hebraicthought.org/give For more articles: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Social Links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HebraicThought Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hebraicthought Threads: https://www.threads.net/hebraicthought X: https://www.twitter.com/HebraicThought Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hebraicthought.org Chapters: 00:00 Understanding Iran: A Cultural Overview 05:01 The Rise of Christianity in Iran 09:58 Religious Minorities and Their Struggles 14:57 House Churches: A New Form of Worship 20:06 Personal Stories: Faith and Identity in Iran 21:30 Understanding Shi'ism: A Deep Dive 24:43 The Geopolitical Landscape: Iran and Israel 27:02 Nuclear Ambitions: The Threat of Iran 30:03 Rationality in Warfare: The Iranian Perspective 34:28 The Iranian Regime: Current State and Future Prospects See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.