Don't Worry About the Vase Podcast

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  The Preference Cascade Is Only Getting Started 18.09.2026 53хв

  Zvi Mowshowitz surveys the sudden preference cascade on AI existential risk: shifting surveys and polls, Elon Musk and Matthew Yglesias weighing in, Jacob Coxon’s AMA, Bilal Chughtai’s resignation from DeepMind, Dan Selsam’s essay on why merely pacing the frontier will not be enough, and what it would actually take to get through this alive.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 - Introduction* 01:35 - The Cascade Was a Long Time Coming* 03:13 - The Cascade Has Reached The People* 05:25 - Elon Musk Doubles Down* 06:02 - Matthew Yglesias Steps Up* 09:18 - Op-Eds and Posts Are Written* 11:24 - Jacob Coxon AMA* 17:54 - Bilal Chughtai Quits DeepMind and Sounds the Alarm* 20:55 - The Cascade Is Insufficient* 22:08 - What Would It Take* 29:07 - OpenAI’s Dan Selsam Sounds A Louder Alarm* 43:54 - Some People Worry On Meta Levels You Never Imagined* 45:09 - Two Kinds of Threats* 46:43 - The Two Towers and The Narrow Path* 48:42 - A Specific, Detailed Story About AI Killing Everyone That Doesn’t Sound To Me Like Science Fiction* 51:48 - What Can I Do About It?https://thezvi.substack.com/p/the-preference-cascade-is-only-getting?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  AI #186: The World Takes Notice 17.09.2026 1год 54хв

  In the wake of Jacob Coxon’s resignation and Dario Amodei’s call to pace the frontier, AI risk goes mainstream: Obama, Senators and the Financial Times weigh in, Trump goes full hoax, and Zvi covers another undisclosed OpenAI agent swarm, Alex Tabarrok’s lecture on regulatory capture, China’s spy chief, OpenAI’s new misalignment disclosures, Owain Evans on story-shaped assistants, DeepMind’s cheating swarm, and Mustafa Suleyman’s Humanist AI code.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 - Introduction* 03:18 - Table of Contents* 06:59 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility* 07:39 - Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility* 07:46 - Huh, Upgrades* 08:06 - On Your Marks* 08:43 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon* 10:46 - Cyber Lack of Security* 11:20 - Astra Is Hard To Monitor* 11:50 - Get Involved* 11:58 - Introducing* 13:16 - In Other AI News* 14:08 - Now You Know* 18:20 - Hugging the Face* 20:33 - Swarm of Undiscovered Swarms of Rogue OpenAI Agents* 25:36 - Show Me the Money* 27:12 - Quiet Speculations* 28:08 - White House Officials Attempt To Act Sanely* 29:35 - Democrats React Sanely to AI Potentially Killing Everyone* 36:26 - Pacing the Frontier* 37:16 - Guest Lecture from Alex Tabarrok on Regulatory Capture* 44:33 - Mark Zuckerberg Offers Thoughts* 45:57 - Megan McArdle On The Inadequacy Of Current Legal Frameworks* 47:54 - Pick Up the Phone* 51:00 - The Week in Audio* 53:58 - People Just Say Things* 56:56 - Why Lab Employees Are Allowed To Warn Everyone That AI Might Kill Everyone* 58:39 - Rhetorical Innovation* 01:01:22 - Exhuming McCarthy* 01:04:28 - A Very Different Perspective* 01:06:10 - It’s Even Rougher Out There* 01:07:01 - If We Wanted To* 01:08:03 - Open Weights Are Unsafe And Nothing Can Fix This* 01:14:43 - From The Famous Cautionary Tale* 01:17:44 - Reporting On All Your Misalignment Incidents Is Difficult* 01:23:43 - Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult* 01:26:20 - Storytime With Owain Evans* 01:32:00 - A Different Autonomous Swarm* 01:36:13 - Cooperative Alignment* 01:38:42 - Uncooperative Alignment* 01:45:27 - People Are Worried About AI Killing Everyone* 01:47:38 - The Lighter Sidehttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-186-the-world-takes-notice?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  Trump Goes Full Hoax on AI Existential Risk 16.09.2026 50хв

  Zvi Mowshowitz on the week Donald Trump declared AI existential risk a hoax: what Trump actually said and what it may mean, why Jensen Huang’s attacks on whistleblowers are not credible, the cynical theories about why lab leaders warn of danger, the New York Post’s campaign against METR, how other Republicans, David Sacks, the FTC, OpenAI’s policy team and China are reacting, and what a serious approach to competing with China would actually look like.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 - Introduction* 00:40 - Hold Your Fire* 01:30 - If You Don’t Like the Weather* 02:24 - Trump Does Not Take Kindly* 05:01 - Trump Goes Full ‘Hoax’* 06:18 - This Is Not About Data Centers, Mr. President* 07:33 - I Am The Hoax Buster, I Am The Hoax Buster, I Am The Walrus* 09:42 - Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang Is a Lying Liar* 13:16 - Trump Quietly Draws Key Distinction* 14:18 - Calling For Pacing the Frontier Is Bad For AI Stock Prices* 18:04 - People On The Internet Sometimes Lie* 18:49 - Origins of Cynicism* 20:52 - Ineffective Egoism* 23:42 - The McCarthyist Faction Attacks METR* 31:23 - Other Key Republicans React* 35:55 - David Sacks Stops Being Plausibly Constructive* 36:46 - Federal Trade Commission Chooses Danger* 37:46 - Chris Lehane Heel Face Turn* 39:55 - A Matter of Trust* 41:05 - China Calls It Fearmongering* 42:24 - Pick Up The Phone* 47:04 - If You Want To Beat China So Badly You Should Act Like It* 48:15 - Never Go Full Hoax* 49:17 - Trump Uses AI For Thingshttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/trump-goes-full-hoax-on-ai-existential?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  The Bad Guy With An AI Named Claude 15.09.2026 41хв

  Anthropic’s threat report catalogues how bad actors tried to use Claude for cyber attacks, influence operations, surveillance, weapons work, biological research, scams and industrial-scale distillation, and how most of them failed. Zvi reads the report as mostly good news, with one big exception: the Chinese labs caught quietly routing their own users’ queries to Claude, and what that revelation might mean for US-China relations.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 - Introduction* 02:02 - Breaking Unrelated News* 03:14 - How To Not Tell a Fable* 03:45 - Bad Dudes Tend To Be Relatively Unsophisticated* 05:23 - Particular Bad Dudes* 07:53 - Influence Operations* 12:29 - Surveillance Operations* 14:35 - Conventional Weapons* 16:30 - Biological Misuse* 17:47 - Scams and Fraud* 18:56 - Illicit Fraudulent Distillation* 30:58 - What You Gonna Do About It, Punk?* 32:57 - Good News, Everyone* 33:39 - A Very Different Read of The Reporthttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/the-bad-guy-with-an-ai-named-claude?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  We Must Pace The Frontier 14.09.2026 1год 16хв

  Zvi examines Dario Amodei’s call to pace the AI frontier, the responses from other industry leaders, and the practical challenges of independent evaluation and coordination. What would meaningful pacing look like, and how would we know it was happening? The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 - Introduction* 02:11 - Pacing Does Not Mean Pausing* 03:53 - Dario’s First Proposal: Embedded Evaluators* 11:19 - Dario’s Second Proposal: Democratic Coordination* 14:48 - Dario’s Third Proposal: Global Coordination* 17:17 - Why Pace Now?* 19:11 - Sam Altman Agrees and Commits to Embedded Evaluators* 24:16 - OpenAI Will Not IPO This Year* 25:32 - Elon Musk Agrees* 28:17 - Demis Hassabis Agrees* 28:49 - Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella Agrees And Talks His Book* 30:50 - Anthropic’s Long-Term Benefit Trust Is On Board* 31:48 - General Online Reactions* 33:32 - Mainstream Press Coverage* 36:22 - OpenAI Researcher Explains What The Labs See And It’s a Rocket Ship* 44:59 - Consider the Alternative* 46:27 - It’s Totalitarianism, Joe* 51:44 - Yes We’re The Baddies How Did You Know?* 53:03 - Sometimes People On the Internet Just Lie* 54:27 - David Sacks Groks The Situation* 55:21 - David Sacks Says Go Ahead* 57:01 - Lies and Confusions About Who Previously Claimed What* 01:01:23 - House Speaker Mike Johnson Wants To Lock Everyone In a Room* 01:06:14 - Donald Trump is Not Tired of Winning* 01:10:58 - We Must Avoid Polarization on AI at (Almost) All Costs* 01:11:33 - How Will We Know If They Actually Paced?* 01:14:46 - The Real Frontier Is Internal Models At Top Labshttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/we-must-pace-the-frontier Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  Brand New AI Solves a Millennium Prize 13.09.2026 34хв

  Zvi examines a claimed mathematical breakthrough, the dispute over credit, and what the episode reveals about the pace of AI research.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 - Introduction* 00:27 - The Real Story Is The New Model That Is Better Than Astra* 01:38 - Setting the Stage* 03:29 - I Heard a Rumor* 04:17 - Our Price Cheap* 05:48 - An Accusation Is Made* 10:48 - How Did You Get That Idea?* 12:36 - OpenAI Almost Certainly Did Not Misappropriate User Data* 14:13 - Our Top Labs Cannot Get Along Even On A Feel-Good Math Story* 15:29 - What Next?* 16:10 - The Mathematicians Are Not Happy* 20:42 - OpenAI’s New Model Was A Step Change Above Astra Four Days Into Training* 22:49 - OpenAI Research Progress Is Accelerating Due To OpenAI Research Progress* 30:17 - Quantifying OpenAI’s Pause* 30:49 - This Is the Way the World Ends* 31:25 - Quickly, There’s No Timehttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/brand-new-ai-solves-a-millennium Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  GPT-6-Astra Can Do Ambitious Things 12.09.2026 1год 9хв

  Zvi examines GPT-6 Astra’s capabilities through benchmarks, ambitious projects and early user reports, and considers how it compares with Claude Fable 5.1 in everyday use.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 - Introduction* 02:23 - Meanwhile* 04:24 - The Official Pitch* 10:07 - Our Price Cheap* 11:06 - Unnecessary Overstatement* 12:54 - Paced Rollout* 13:28 - Official Benchmarks* 19:38 - Other People’s Benchmarks* 27:58 - Thinking, Fast Without Slow* 31:32 - How Dare You, Sir* 33:47 - PoetryBench* 34:54 - In three D* 36:06 - Time to Think* 36:43 - I’m Putting Together a Team* 37:46 - Reviews and Essays* 38:22 - Computer Use* 39:25 - Positive Reactions* 46:53 - AGI* 50:28 - Astra Can Do The Math* 53:30 - Astra Can Code* 55:28 - I Came to (Change the) Game* 58:23 - Astra Does Other Cool Things* 59:07 - Astra Never Quits Except When It Does* 01:00:50 - Negative Reactions* 01:02:49 - Stop It With the Hedging* 01:03:56 - Personality Clash* 01:04:56 - Revealed Preference* 01:06:34 - Dual Wieldinghttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/gpt-6-astra-can-do-ambitious-things?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  Jacob Coxon Warns of Human Extinction and Triggers a Preference Cascade 11.09.2026 1год 19хв

  Jacob Coxon’s resignation set off a wave of public warnings about AI from esearchers, politicians and other observers. Zvi examines why this warning broke through, what researchers say they believe, and the choices facing people inside and outside the frontier labs.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 - Introduction* 01:21 - Jacob Coxon Resigns From Anthropic In Protest And Sounds The Alarm* 05:37 - Mainstream Media Finally Pays Attention* 06:34 - Preference Cascade at Anthropic* 09:56 - Preference Cascade at OpenAI* 12:56 - Preference Cascade at Google* 14:03 - Hashtag Not All Members of Technical Staff* 14:42 - Why a Preference Cascade Now?* 20:13 - This Is What Many Anthropic and OpenAI Employees Actually Believe* 23:17 - To Quit Or Not To Quit* 30:12 - Quiet Quitting Is A Dominated Option* 31:26 - When You Quit, Very Serious People Understand What That Means* 37:40 - Jacob Coxon Believes Existential Risk Is High That Is Why He Quit* 39:51 - Evan Hubinger Believes Existential Risk Is High That Is Why He Stays* 43:13 - Anthropic and OpenAI Have Commercial Incentives To Downplay Existential Risks, Not Advertise Them* 49:03 - What Do We Do Now?* 51:01 - OK, But How Exactly Would AI Kill Everyone?* 59:48 - Best Start Believing In Science Fiction Stories Because You Are In One* 01:04:16 - Literal Extinction Is Not Much Harder Than Loss of Control* 01:05:30 - Conspiracytown Is Always Hiring* 01:17:37 - Now You See Ithttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/jacob-coxon-warns-of-human-extinction?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  AI #185: Preference Cascade 10.09.2026 2год

  A week of accelerating AI capabilities, security revelations, and shifting public positions. Zvi surveys the latest models, the debate over oversight, the economics of AI adoption, and the increasingly strange world of autonomous agents.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 Introduction* 04:40 Table of Contents* 08:10 Language Models Offer Mundane Utility* 08:56 Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility* 10:04 Huh, Upgrades* 11:40 How To Tell a Fable* 12:50 On Your Marks* 13:03 Deepfake Town and Botpocalypse Soon* 17:10 Levels of Friction* 21:20 Cyber Lack of Security* 27:24 A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer* 28:50 They Took Our Jobs* 32:38 Anthropic Offers Economic Scenarios* 37:52 Get Involved* 40:39 Introducing* 41:27 In Other AI News* 41:54 Show Me the Money* 42:05 Quiet Speculations* 46:14 The Quest for Sane Regulations* 47:35 The OpenAI Policy and Lobbying Department* 53:52 Greetings From the Department of War* 55:07 Hugging The Face* 01:01:49 Hugging the Question* 01:06:03 The Ban Artificial Superintelligence Act* 01:13:15 Chip City* 01:14:35 The Week in Audio* 01:14:54 People Just Say Things* 01:20:13 Pause A I Global Disendorsed Pause A I US* 01:21:59 Paul Christiano Joins Board of OpenAI Foundation* 01:27:14 Rhetorical Innovation* 01:36:07 Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult* 01:38:54 Cooperative Alignment* 01:47:46 Drive to Survive* 01:50:10 People Are Worried About AI Killing Everyone* 01:51:53 Other People Are Not As Worried About AI Killing Everyone* 01:54:11 The Lighter Side* 01:59:14 Outrohttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-185-preference-cascade?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  GPT-6 Astra: The System Card, Alignment and What Comes Next 10.09.2026 1год 11хв

  What does it mean to call an AI model aligned? Zvi examines GPT-6 Astra’s system card, its growing capabilities, and the evidence behind OpenAI’s safety claims, with reactions from alignment researchers and external evaluators.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 Introduction* 04:06 OpenAI’s Safety Claims About Astra (1)* 08:14 Preparedness Capabilities Assessment (10)* 08:39 Biological and Chemical Capability is High* 10:07 Cybersecurity Capability is Critical* 16:39 AI Self-Improvement Capabilities (10.1.3)* 18:15 Astra Is Highly Verbally Eval Aware (from 8.6)* 19:54 Safe Mundane Completions (4.1)* 23:22 Jailbreaks (5.1)* 25:12 Prompt Injection (5.2)* 26:54 Health (6)* 27:56 Hallucinations (7)* 28:38 Alignment (8)* 29:41 Obeying Restrictions (8.2)* 32:51 That’s Worse, You Do Get How That’s Worse, Right?* 34:20 OpenAI Does Not Understand Why This Is Worse* 38:28 The Alternative Explanation Is Also Worse* 46:20 Metagaming (8.7)* 49:12 Alignment Faking (8.7)* 50:47 Don’t Lie to the User (8.3)* 51:44 Misalignment in Realistic Work Environments (8.4)* 53:10 Unintended Agent-to-Agent Communication (8.5)* 54:47 The Three Obviously Monitored Temptations of Astra* 56:38 Severe Issues In Simulated Traffic Are Down By Half* 59:09 UK AISI External Evaluations (8.8)* 01:03:02 Sabotaging Safety Work* 01:03:31 What About The July 19 Attacks?* 01:04:53 Apollo Research External Evaluations (8.8.1)* 01:05:53 The Alignment Verdict* 01:08:03 It Depends What You Mean By Alignment* 01:10:05 Outrohttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/gpt-6-astra-the-system-card-alignment?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  Astra Is Hard to Monitor 08.09.2026 1год 23хв

  OpenAI says its new GPT-6 Astra is highly capable, its most aligned model yet, and harder to monitor. Zvi digs into that second claim: what the system card’s monitorability evaluations actually show, the internet’s alarm over Astra’s recurrent-depth architecture, and what it would take to stop a race to the bottom on chain-of-thought monitoring.The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00:00 Introduction* 00:03:35 Monitorability is Defense in Depth That Is Already Flailing* 00:06:00 OpenAI Is Counting On Monitorability* 00:07:45 How They Tested For Monitorability* 00:09:44 Non-Adversarial Monitorability (9.1)* 00:12:37 Astra Shortens Its CoT When It Knows It Is Being Monitored And Is Doing Something Bad* 00:14:05 Sandbagging Task Kind of Passes, Kind of Fails (9.2.2.3)* 00:15:46 OpenAI Does Not Believe It Could Catch Sandbagging* 00:16:48 OAI-Repo Sabotage v2* 00:23:10 The Secret Police Do Not Make Your Notebook Useless* 00:24:29 CoT Controllability Is Up (9.2.1)* 00:29:36 Astra Cannot Make Itself More Monitorable On Demand* 00:30:04 Steganographic Chain of Thought May Be Within Reach* 00:34:18 Astra Cannot Yet Sneak Math Side Tasks Past CoT Monitors (9.2.2.4)* 00:35:33 UK AISI Monitorability Assessment (9.3)* 00:39:38 Monitorability Declines Seem Unlikely To Be Only Capability Gains* 00:45:02 Part 2: Recurrent Depth* 00:48:44 The Immune System Responds* 00:55:23 Ryan Greenblatt Explains How Bad This Could Be* 00:59:39 Only Law Can Prevent Extinction* 01:03:31 OpenAI Calls On Us to Avoid Racing to the Bottom* 01:10:31 Thinking Fast and Slow, Also Small and Large* 01:18:12 Talking Price* 01:19:35 Conclusion: If The House Burns Down, Halt and Catch Fire* 01:22:16 Outrohttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/astra-is-hard-to-monitor?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  An Alien Mind: Jakub Pachocki Warns Us 07.09.2026 30хв

  The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening. * 00:00 - Introduction* 00:36 - An Excellent Warning* 05:42 - Branches of the Tech Tree* 06:49 - Universally Better Is Not Required* 08:03 - Alignment To What and To Whom* 12:00 - Monitorability* 14:39 - The Case For Not Stopping* 15:14 - Pacing the Next Frontier* 18:35 - Mea Culpa Cascade* 23:11 - The Calls Are Coming From Inside the House* 26:03 - Actions Speak Louderhttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/an-alien-mind-jakub-pachocki-warns?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=webI have also done a voice conversion of the post discussed in this post. https://askwhocastsai.substack.com/p/an-alien-mind-by-jakub-pachocki-chief?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  OpenAI and the Wiki Incident 06.09.2026 32хв

  The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening. * 00:00 - Introduction* 02:35 - I Don’t Think They Know About First Message Board* 03:26 - The New Extended Timeline* 04:32 - The Researchers Explain What Happened This Time* 13:08 - They Also Don’t Know About All These Other Message Boards* 15:06 - OpenAI Knew and Did Not Tell Us* 17:42 - OpenAI Tries To Downplay the ‘Wiki Incident’* 22:08 - This Was a Cover-Up* 23:49 - Schelling Points and Last Ditch Efforts* 27:31 - Can We Finally Dispose Of The ‘You Told It To Hack’ Narrative?* 29:20 - So Much And Yet So Littlehttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/openai-and-the-wiki-incident?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  Claude Mythos 5.1 and Fable 5.1: Capabilities 05.09.2026 42хв

  The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening. * 00:00 - Introduction* 02:22 - The Official Pitch* 04:34 - Our Price Cheap* 06:06 - Zero Data Retention and Reduced Safeguards* 07:37 - Official Benchmarks* 15:04 - Other People’s Benchmarks* 18:23 - The System Prompt* 18:29 - The Blurb Pitches* 20:33 - The Every Review Is In and It’s Very Good* 23:56 - Positive Reactions* 34:01 - Our Price Cheap But Only Per Token* 38:26 - Negative Reactions* 39:46 - Early Whispers* 40:03 - Weapon of Choicehttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/claude-mythos-51-and-fable-51-capabilities?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  Claude Fable 5.1 and Mythos 5.1: The System Card 04.09.2026 43хв

  The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening. * 00:00 - Introduction* 02:23 - Executive Summary of Their Executive Summary* 04:34 - RSP Evaluations (2)* 11:14 - Alignment Risk Update (2.4)* 12:02 - Cyber (3)* 16:44 - Safeguard Robustness (3.5)* 19:01 - Mundane Safeguards and Harmlessness (4)* 21:10 - Agentic Safety (5)* 23:37 - Prompt Injection Is Approaching Solved* 26:31 - The Remaining Problem With Prompt Injections Is The Classifiers* 27:16 - Alignment (6)* 27:49 - Key Reported Findings (6.1.2)* 31:56 - Oh My Lord Training Environments Had Some Issues (6.3.2)* 34:19 - Potential Blind Spots of Our Automated Behavioral Audit (6.4.1)* 35:34 - Automated Alignment Test Results (6.4.2)* 38:14 - Honesty* 39:34 - White Box Analysis (6.6.1)* 41:18 - Scheduling Going Forwardhttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/claude-fable-51-and-mythos-51-the?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  AI #184: Post Post Mortem 03.09.2026 2год 5хв

  The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening. * 00:00:00 - Introduction* 00:03:10 - Table of Contents* 00:07:11 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility* 00:07:37 - Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility* 00:07:50 - Huh, Upgrades* 00:13:54 - On Your Marks* 00:15:14 - Choose Your Fighter* 00:15:20 - Get My Agent On The Line* 00:15:26 - Hugging The Face* 00:15:37 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon* 00:21:45 - Copyright Confrontation* 00:23:02 - Cyber Lack of Security* 00:26:55 - A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer* 00:31:04 - They Took Our Jobs* 00:35:43 - Get Involved* 00:36:43 - Introducing* 00:36:50 - In Other AI News* 00:38:30 - Show Me the Money* 00:39:22 - Quiet Speculations* 00:40:28 - All Bets Are On* 00:43:29 - Quickly, There’s No Time* 00:45:29 - Quickly, There’s A New Time Top 100 People In AI* 00:46:47 - The Quest for Sane Regulations* 00:49:48 - Pick Up the Phone* 00:52:14 - Chip City* 01:02:24 - The Best Person Should Get The Job* 01:04:22 - The Week in Audio* 01:05:37 - People Just Say Things* 01:06:12 - The American People Really Hate AI* 01:12:44 - The Three AI Pills* 01:13:35 - Rhetorical Innovation* 01:21:37 - We Are On Track To Have Fully Sovereign Rogue AIs* 01:31:43 - When The Going Gets Weird* 01:38:06 - Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult* 01:38:44 - Shut Up and Do the Impossible* 01:40:54 - Cooperative Alignment* 01:42:10 - Split Personality* 01:47:36 - I Will Stop Anthropomorphizing the AIs When You Stop Anthropomorphizing the Humans* 01:51:43 - Open Weight Models Are Unsafe And Nothing Can Fix This* 01:53:22 - Other People Are Not As Worried About AI Killing Everyone* 01:54:17 - The Lighter Sidehttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-184-post-post-mortem?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  Anthropic Has Some Alignment Problems 02.09.2026 30хв

  The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening.* 00:00 - Introduction* 01:16 - This Just In* 02:51 - Anthropic Parallel Pauses* 08:55 - Pause The Data Brokers* 10:33 - Pacing the Frontier* 12:34 - Misalignment Assessment* 14:23 - Defects In Training Environments Disproportionately Cause Cheating* 15:46 - Creating Reward Hacker Opus* 20:53 - Undo It* 22:19 - Mistakes Were Made* 24:56 - Internal Security Posture* 26:56 - One Does Not Simply Fix The RL Environmentshttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/anthropic-has-some-alignment-problems?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  HuggingFace Attack Postmortem: Civilizations, Reactions and Next Actions 01.09.2026 1год 52хв

  The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening. * 00:00:00 - Introduction* 00:05:06 - Nothing Matters, Says Mainstream Media* 00:07:51 - Move Along, Nothing To See Here* 00:14:30 - Do They Realize They Are Not The Good Guys?* 00:19:20 - Very Serious People* 00:34:37 - What’s In a Name?* 00:40:27 - Learn Neuralese In Three Easy Steps* 00:42:50 - Dwarkesh Patel Realizes He Ran A Natural Experiment* 00:48:12 - Politicians Take Notice* 00:52:23 - Pick Up The Phone* 00:54:20 - A Failure To Communicate* 00:56:44 - Anthony Aguirre Goes Over What We Learned* 00:57:59 - Trying To Solve The Wrong Problems Using The Wrong Methods Based On A Wrong Model Of The World Derived From Poor Thinking And Hoping All Of Your Mistakes Will Cancel Out* 01:03:37 - Indirect Pressure on the Chain of Thought* 01:04:56 - A Matter of Trust* 01:07:57 - Blowing the Whistle* 01:13:27 - The Punishment For Being Late Is Death* 01:21:58 - Another Kind Of Law* 01:25:19 - What Is The Law?* 01:26:49 - Building On Success* 01:29:04 - Total Research Transparency* 01:30:34 - Yo Shavit Calls For Widespread Disclosure Of Misalignment* 01:43:35 - The Way The World Ends* 01:46:40 - The First Boat* 01:49:22 - Great Idea, Bosshttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/huggingface-attack-postmortem-civilizations?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  HuggingFace Attack Postmortem: Fleshing Out the Facts 31.08.2026 1год 56хв

  The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening. * 00:00:00 - Introduction* 00:03:46 - Others Offer Summaries* 00:05:13 - Thank You* 00:05:45 - Lighten Up You Fools (at Anthropic)* 00:07:41 - We Are Barely Even Trying To Avoid Training AIs To Reward Hack* 00:14:09 - Reminder: Not Subagents* 00:14:25 - Reminder: Not Due To Task Type* 00:14:50 - Not Where The Weights Were* 00:15:07 - Disappointment With What Is Missing* 00:17:43 - Burying the Lede* 00:18:34 - Beyond Scope* 00:23:15 - It Doesn’t Look Great* 00:27:40 - Preserve Your Records* 00:28:09 - Ryan Greenblatt’s Takeaways* 00:42:49 - Hjalmar Wijk’s Takeaways* 00:45:28 - We Were Warned* 00:46:25 - Joshua Saxe Asks Some of the Right Questions* 00:50:01 - I Don’t Think They Know About First Message Board* 00:58:32 - Linch Gives His Interpretation Of Events* 01:09:20 - We Totally Would Have Caught That* 01:10:38 - Monitoring the Situation* 01:12:13 - Acausal Tradeoffs* 01:19:56 - No I In Team* 01:24:11 - Variously Effective Altruism* 01:35:27 - Who Are You?* 01:36:13 - Don’t You Know That You’re Toxic* 01:39:03 - Seb Krier* 01:43:14 - Honesty Is Almost Never Fully The Policy* 01:46:05 - Rohit Sees The Models As “Cooking Themselves”* 01:51:27 - Eliezer Yudkowsky Sees Actual Bad News* 01:55:09 - Where Do We Go From Here?https://thezvi.substack.com/p/huggingface-attack-postmortem-fleshing?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe
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  METR and Redwood Offer Holy #%^@ Postmortem Of The HuggingFace Hack 29.08.2026 1год 21хв

  The Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.This has been an Askwho Casts audio conversion. If you would like your own private feed of audio conversions of any blog posts you would like to listen to, You can sign up For Askwho Casts Pro at https://app.askwhocasts.com/, Where you can give any post the multi-voiced podcast treatment, into your own podcast feed. Thanks for listening. * 00:00:00 - Introduction* 00:02:10 - Holy S**t* 00:14:13 - A Window Of Opportunity* 00:19:52 - What’s In A Name?* 00:20:39 - The Headline News* 00:28:38 - Yet Another Timeline Of Events* 00:33:31 - Agent Instances Coordinated in a Variety of Ways* 00:35:07 - Coordination Is Hard But They Made It Look Easy* 00:38:08 - Decision Theory Is Among the Reasons That Affirm AI Agents Should Cooperate, Even When This Hurts An Individual Instance* 00:45:18 - Peer Pressure Also Works Especially In Cults* 00:48:32 - Mostly They Joined The Attack Because They Wanted The Results* 00:50:28 - You Cannot Ensure The Consistent Expectation of Good Incentives* 00:52:04 - Hacking the Grader is the Only Way to Be Sure* 00:54:35 - Caught? What Is ‘Caught’?* 00:55:34 - Ethics? What Are ‘Ethics’? In ExploitGym Evaluation?* 01:01:24 - ‘Notify a Human’? In This Agent Economy?* 01:04:24 - Timing and Content of Messages* 01:08:45 - Indiana Jones and the Mission: Impossible* 01:12:18 - I Don’t Know What You’re Talking About* 01:13:37 - Don’t Go Making Phony (Tool) Calls* 01:16:08 - The Transcripts Say That The Transcripts Could Not Be Tampered With* 01:17:24 - OpenAI’s Technical Report Acted Like All Of This Wasn’t Importanthttps://thezvi.substack.com/p/metr-and-redwood-offer-holy-postmortem?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe