Pastor Pastor
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Pastor Pastor is a podcast for pastors, church planters, and church revitalizers. It is hosted by Wes Pastor, president of The NETS Center for Church Planting and Revitalization, who draws on more than three decades of experience as a church planter, pastor, mentor, and coach. Each episode offers biblical and practical counsel for navigating the challenges of gospel-driven ministry with endurance.
Episodes
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The Perfect School 02.11.2026 19mWhere should you send your kids to school? Homeschool, Christian school, public school? It's a big decision, and Christian parents often have strong opinions about it. But is one choice better than the others? Having raised five children of his own and helped countless parents navigate this decision throughout his years as a pastor, Wes offers thoughtful, practical advice on choosing a path for your family. -
Dating Advice 26.10.2026 24mFinding someone to spend the rest of your life with is a big decision. So how should Christians approach dating? In this episode, Wes offers practical wisdom for singles and parents alike. He weighs in on dating apps, parental involvement, the difference between dating and courting, and whether you really need to be head over heels in love before saying “I do.” -
Where Is Your Hope? 19.10.2026 36mWe place our hope in good things, convinced that lasting peace is just one answered prayer or accomplishment away. But what happens when those good things become our greatest hope? Join Wes as he points us to the one hope that cannot fail, the return of Christ, and shows us how eagerly anticipating that day will transform how we live right now. -
Is Sports Betting a Sin? 12.10.2026 17mYour phone is now a sportsbook, and the game you used to watch for fun suddenly has your paycheck on the line. Christians are asking: Where does harmless fun end and something dangerous begin? Wes explores the biblical concerns surrounding sports betting, including stewardship, greed, and how a casual habit can quickly become a stronghold. He also addresses betting’s growing influence on young people and how to enjoy sports without letting them rule your wallet, your time, or your heart. -
All You Need Is Love 05.10.2026 38mWhat is the defining mark of a healthy church? Wes explores why Jesus places such importance on believers loving one another and why that love says something profound about whether Christ has truly changed us. What does this kind of love actually look like in the life of a church, and what does it communicate to a watching world? -
Your Catholic Friend 28.09.2026 14mIf a friend genuinely loves and follows Jesus but chooses to remain in the Catholic Church, should you try to convince them to leave? Or should we look at Roman Catholicism as simply another Christian denomination? That question feels especially urgent as a younger generation, hungry for antiquity and strong leadership, finds itself drawn to high-church traditions. -
Addicted 21.09.2026 26mCan a true believer stay hopelessly trapped in pornography or other habitual sins? Joining us for episode two of Season 4, Wes tackles the uncomfortable reality of addiction and grace, exploring why willpower fails, why zero progress demands hard self-examination, and how Christ offers true victory from the inside out. Stream now. -
The Key to Happiness 14.09.2026 39mAre you tired of a happiness that depends on having a good day? Real joy isn't about easier circumstances: it's about a fundamentally different way of living. In the Season 4 premiere, Wes explores how Jesus maintained an unshakable joy through hardship, and how looking to Him changes everything you value. Press play to discover a joy that lasts. -
Slave or Free? (encore) 07.09.2026 47mWhat does it mean to be a Christian? In this thought-provoking conversation, Wes brings a clarity to conversion that has sobering implications both for pastors and the flocks they shepherd. Drawing on his pastoral experience and his PhD studies, Wes exposes the root of conversion confusion and explains what it looks like to have a faith that works. -
What Did You Say? (encore) 31.08.2026 45m"Churches struggle from ungodly communication more than any single problem." In this encore episode, Wes draws on his decades of experience as both a husband and pastor as he explores what it looks like to speak with truth, love, and clarity. Learn the keys to godly communication and why it's critical to your relationships both at church and at home, and discover what steps you can take today to strengthen your marriage and build up your church. -
Preaching That Pops 24.08.2026 48mIn this encore episode of Pastor Pastor, Wes unpacks the art and craft of preaching, from the early stages of sermon prep to the final moments of delivery. You'll hear how NETS builds on seminary studies in training men to handle God’s Word, and why it's essential to connect with your particular congregation to stir hearts, challenge minds, and call both believers and nonbelievers to repentance. -
The Happy Wife Test (encore) 17.08.2026 51mIn this encore episode, Wes and Sue share what they call the “Happy Wife Test” and how it reveals the foundation of a thriving marriage. Drawing from their 45-year journey in marriage and ministry, they offer practical wisdom on communication, mutual support, and finding joy in partnership. From their early ministry beginnings to their latest church plant, Wes and Sue open up about what it really means to be happy, who’s responsible for it, and how couples can stay connected and effective in both life and ministry. -
I Thought I Was a Christian (encore) 10.08.2026 38mIn this encore episode of Pastor Pastor, we revisit episode 7 of season 1, where we examine the nature of true conversion and the perils of being deceived about our own salvation. Wes reflects on the early years of Christ Memorial Church and the surprising movement of God's Spirit in committed members who were professing faith. As their eyes were opened and their hearts truly transformed, the evidence of God's saving work became clear to those around them. Wes shares how this helped clarify in his own mind the fruit of true conversion, and gently guides us through how we, as shepherds, can support others in this journey. -
Soul Physician (encore) 03.08.2026 52mThis Summer Encore Series episode of "Pastor Pastor" dives deep into the heart of pastoral ministry as Wes answers the critical but often neglected question, "What does it mean to shepherd as a soul physician?" Listen as Wes and Rob explore how pastors can discern the spiritual health of those entrusted to their care without becoming 'soul police'. Their conversation will stretch your understanding of pastoral care and provide biblical tools to help diagnose your flock. It's a topic with eternal consequences for pastors and the souls they shepherd. -
Expository Preaching (encore) 27.07.2026 45mAs part of our Summer Encore Series, Wes explains how the NETS Residency Program equips pastors to become exceptional preachers on "Pastor Pastor." Wes and Rob dive into the heart of the NETS Residency Program's exegesis, theology, and preaching track, and its focus on crafting sermons that stay true to Scripture and are deeply relevant for the congregation. They also discuss the unique challenges and opportunities that set church planters and revitalizers apart. This episode offers practical wisdom for anyone passionate about preaching and church leadership. -
A Girl Named Sue (encore) 20.07.2026 42mAs part of our Summer Encore Series, we're revisiting an inspiring and heartfelt conversation on "Pastor Pastor" with Wes and his wife, Sue, who shares her remarkable journey of faith. You'll hear about Sue's life before Christ and the powerful moment that changed everything. With her practical wisdom, sharp strategic mind, and ability to embrace the present, Sue's story is not just moving—it's empowering. Her passion for the Lord shines brightly as she opens up about her transformation and calling. Plus, you'll get a glimpse into the love story that brought Wes and Sue together and how they've built such a strong, united front in ministry. This episode is packed with insight, authenticity, and plenty of laughter—don't miss this fan favorite! -
Baptizing Kindergarteners (encore) 13.07.2026 44mIn this encore episode of Pastor Pastor, Wes helps us think through what it means to lead with courage, clarity, and compassion. From baptizing young children to guiding church members on communion and leading an elder board, Wes highlights the lead pastor’s pivotal role in helping the church move forward faithfully. This is an important conversation about how the gospel gives pastors the courage to lead with love, even on difficult issues that can leave them feeling vulnerable. -
Customizing the Gospel (encore) 06.07.2026 48mIn this encore episode of Pastor Pastor, Wes helps us think about what faithful ministry requires in the gospel-parched soil of New England. This conversation is a timely reminder that shepherding is never one-size-fits-all. Pastors must know their people, understand their context, and bring the unchanging truth of the gospel without ever compromising it. -
Faithful Planning 29.06.2026 25mHow should pastors think about their finances? In this episode, Wes responds to a pastor’s question about providing faithfully today while preparing wisely for the future. While the conversation is especially aimed at pastors, it offers helpful wisdom for every Christian and encourages churches to care thoughtfully for those who shepherd them. -
What Is Free Will? 22.06.2026 40mIf God is absolutely sovereign, then how can we have free will? Does God merely allow evil, or does He ordain it? In this episode, Wes helps us untangle what the Bible says about free will and how it relates to election, suffering, and salvation.
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