Spiritually Incorrect
Drs. Jonathan Lyonhart and Seth Hart
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Spiritually Incorrect is a podcast that explores uncomfortable and unconventional questions at the intersection of spirituality, science, philosophy, politics, culture, and history. Hosted by Drs. Jonathan Lyonhart and Seth Hart, it invites listeners to examine odd and wonderful topics from a Christian perspective. The show is aimed at Christians who want to think through faith alongside contemporary and historical curiosities.
Episodes
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Can We Fix Church Leadership? 03.11.2026 45mTo hear more, join our Patreon!What if the biggest problem in church leadership isn’t a lack of skill but a lack of identity?This episode, we sit down with Greg Robinson, author of Leaders of Another Kind: Living the Radical Paradox of Servant Leadership and a professor and head of the Bible and Ministry department at John Brown University. Greg argues that much of today’s writing treats servant leadership as a list of behaviors, when Jesus suggested it starts with the kind of person you are.If you’ve ever wondered why your church’s leadership feels stuck, this conversation will challenge you to look past strategy and ask a harder question: who are you becoming as a leader?Grab a copy of Leaders of Another Kind and enjoy the fireworks! -
Confessions of an African Exorcist 20.10.2026 1hClick here for more of our content!In this Halloween episode of Spiritually Incorrect, we go inside the world of an African exorcist to explore the terrifying, bizarre, and deeply unsettling realities of spiritual warfare. From alleged demonic encounters to the strange spiritual beliefs that shape everyday life, we investigate what happens when the invisible world collides with the one we can see.Are these encounters evidence of a genuine supernatural reality? Cultural interpretations of extraordinary experiences? Or something even harder to explain?We’re pulling back the curtain on a world most of us would rather keep in the dark and asking what Christians should make of it all.Watch with the lights on. You might never think about exorcism the same way again.👻 Subscribe to Spiritually Incorrect for more conversations at the intersection of Christianity, the paranormal, and the genuinely weird. -
A Top Catholic Scientist Gives His Verdict on Miracles 05.10.2026 1h 15mFor access to the full episode, join our Patreon!Catholicism claims thousands of miracles. What happens when a scientist who is also a faithful Catholic looks at them with a critical eye?In this episode, we talk with Paul Rimmer, a Cambridge astrophysicist, about how he weighs miracle claims as both a Catholic and a scientist. We also delve into the implications of quantum mechanics and a whole host of different ideas. Whether you're a believer who wants to know which stories can withstand scrutiny or a skeptic curious how someone holds both positions at once, this conversation takes the question seriously. -
Is This Proof of Miracles? 22.09.2026 1h 9mJoin our Patreon for more content!Can miracles actually be investigated scientifically?In this episode, we sit down with Caleb Jackson to examine two of the most fascinating alleged miracle phenomena in modern Christian history: the apparitions at Zeitoun in Egypt and the healings associated with Lourdes in France.What do the historical records actually show? How strong is the medical evidence for the Lourdes healings? What can (and can't) be established scientifically about the extraordinary events reported at Zeitoun? And at what point does evidence for an unexplained event become evidence for a genuine miracle?Is this proof of miracles? Listen and decide for yourself. -
Destroy All Nations: The Christian Case for Abolishing Nations 08.09.2026 1h 15mClick here to join our Patreon!In this episode, we sit down with Gary Chartier, a legal scholar, philosopher, and one of the leading voices in market anarchism. We talk about his book Christianity and the Nation-State: A Study in Political Theology. Chartier argues that the modern nation-state isn't just flawed but morally illegitimate, and that a serious Christian political theology points toward something else entirely: radical consociationalism, a form of government without states or territories.We dig into what radical consociationalism actually looks like in practice, why he rejects both nationalism and a global government, and whether any of this is remotely feasible.If you've ever wondered what happens when rigorous political philosophy meets serious Christian theology and where that collision leads if you follow it all the way, this is the conversation for you. -
We Got a UFO Priest to Debate With Us. Chaos Ensued. 25.08.2026 1h 8mFor more of our exclusive content, click here!Raelism is the religion that believes humanity was genetically engineered by aliens. When their priest Leon Ariel Mellul ended up in a room with us, we were not about to let "extraterrestrials did it" go unchallenged.Topics on the table: Who really created humanity? Does cloning debunk religion? Is the Bible just an alien PR campaign? And can two belief systems this different actually have a civil conversation, or does this go off the rails by minute ten?Buckle up. This one's a ride. -
What Did This Doctor Discover About UFOs?? 11.08.2026 1h 2mJOIN OUR PATREON FOR EARLY ACCESS!As I write this, the fifth batch of declassified government documents on UFOs (or UAPs for the sophisticated) is still being culled over. Clearly, this is a topic that isn't going anywhere anytime soon.But just as this episode releases, a new book, called The Metaphysics of UFOs, attempts to uncover just what is going on in our skies. Its author, Jonathan Kendall, MD, began as an open-minded skeptic. Now, he believes he is beginning to unravel something far more astonishing. -
You're Reading the Bible Wrong... 28.07.2026 1h 2mFor access to the full episode, join our Patreon!You've probably heard someone say, "You have to read the Bible in context." But what does that actually mean — and is historical context the only context that matters? We sat down with biblical scholar Max Botner to find out why treating the Bible purely as a historical document might be the most common mistake readers make, and what a richer approach to Scripture actually looks like. -
Are UFOs Demonic? 14.07.2026 1h 19mThis is part 2 of our conversation with Jordan Daniel Wood. See the last episode for part 1.With the government releasing UFO files and Spielberg giving us more Hollywood blockbusters, aliens are back in the news. And believe it or not, Christian theology may already have the tools to handle the biggest question of the disclosure era. While many Christians ignore the topic or, perhaps, see it all as demonic, might the truth be more nuanced? This week we sit down with theologian Jordan Daniel Wood — known for his work on Maximus the Confessor and Christian metaphysics — to talk about what current UAP disclosure actually means for Christian theology, and what it doesn't and, most important, what the truth behind all this UFO talk might actually be. Check out the new trailer for "Not of This World" featuring Jordan Daniel Wood!For behind-the-scenes access, check out our Patreon! -
The Truth Behind UFOs and Aliens 30.06.2026 43mThis is only part one of our conversation. For early access to part two, join our Patreon. With the government releasing UFO files and Spielberg giving us more Hollywood blockbusters, aliens are back in the news. And believe it or not, Christian theology may already have the tools to handle the biggest question of the disclosure era. While many Christians ignore the topic or, perhaps, see it all as demonic, might the truth be more nuanced? This week we sit down with theologian Jordan Daniel Wood — known for his work on Maximus the Confessor and Christian metaphysics — to talk about what current UAP disclosure actually means for Christian theology, and what it doesn't and, most important, what the truth behind all this UFO talk might actually be. -
Is Gen Z Leading a Christian Revival? 16.06.2026 1h 3mFor unaired episodes, extended interviews, and a load of additional perks, join our Patreon!Across college campuses, social media platforms, and young adult communities, many are claiming that there are growing signs of renewed interest in faith among Gen Z. But is this a genuine spiritual revival, a reaction to cultural uncertainty, or something more complex?In this episode, we explore the data behind the headlines, the experiences driving young people toward Christianity, and the questions many Gen Zers are asking about meaning, purpose, identity, and belonging. We'll examine what's fueling this trend and consider what it could mean for the future of faith in America.Is Christianity making a comeback with the next generation—or are the details something far more nuanced and, perhaps, alarming? -
The Future of Spiritually Incorrect (and some talk about AI & Aliens) 02.06.2026 38mIt's the start of summer, and it's time to discuss the future of the podcast. What started as a simple update turned into a vibrant conversation between cohosts. If you're invested in the show, you'll want to tune into this for some updates. -
The Most Shocking Idea About God and Time You've Never Heard 19.05.2026 57mWhat does it actually mean that God is "eternal"? The answer might completely upend everything you thought you knew.In fact, at the Transfiguration of Jesus, something might have been revealed about God and time that completely breaks our brain. In this episode, we sit down with New Testament scholar Shane Wood to dig into what Scripture actually teaches about God's relationship to time, and the results are as surprising as they are unsettling.Using Jonathan Lyonhart's Zeus Was an Atheist as our launching point, we unpack the question: What if the Biblical portrait of God is far more radical, more personal, and more strange than anything we imagined?For more, be sure to pick up Jonathan's new book here!For early access and exclusive content, join our Patreon! -
Should Christians Support Drug Legalization? 05.05.2026 59mThe question of drug legalization has never been more pertinent. In the USA, more and more states are legalizing the use of marijuana. Medical usages for psychedelics have also become a hot topic, thanks in no small part to some major podcast figures. But what should the Christian take on the decriminalization of drugs be? Should we maintain the status quo and resist the normalization of such substances? Or has the war on drugs actually created more harm than help?Here to wade deep into these murky waters is Christina Dent, founder of End It For Good, an organization that seeks to help us rethink what our best approach to drugs might be. For those wanting behind-the-scenes interviews with Christina and others, join our Patreon! -
Why the Trinity Still Matters (More Than You Think) 21.04.2026 1h 11mWhat if reality isn’t made of isolated things—but of relationships all the way down?In this episode, we sit down with John Milbank to explore the strange and surprisingly relevant world of Trinitarian ontology. Together, we dig into a bold idea: that being itself might be more like a living communion than a collection of separate objects.Along the way, we tackle big questions: Why does the Trinity still matter? How does it reshape our understanding of politics and the world? And what would it mean to see reality as fundamentally relational rather than competitive?Expect a mix of deep theology and a few moments where your brain might do a happy double-take. Whether you’re a seasoned thinker or just Trinity-curious, this conversation opens up a fresh way of seeing the world—and your place in it.For more on the New Trinitarian Ontologies, check out another interview with Ryan Haecker on our Patreon! -
The Lost History of Satan 07.04.2026 1h 4mWhere did we get our idea of the devil? We often imagine pitchforks and horns, but is that how the church and Scripture imagine the supposed prince of darkness? Are there ideas about the great adversary to humanity that we've forgotten? And should we recapture them? What is true and what is false about this enigmatic figure?On this episode, we "give the devil his due" and dive into the strange and often baffling history of the concept of Satan within the church. Guiding us like Virgil through the fiery gates is Prof. Gabrielle Thomas, who is, perhaps, the world's foremost expert on the early church and its views of Lucifer. For early access and unaired parts of our interviews, check out our Patreon! -
Aliens… and God? A Muslim & Christian Discussion 24.03.2026 49mWhat happens to faith if we discover we’re not alone in the universe?In this episode, we bring together Muslim and Christian perspectives to explore one of the biggest “what if” questions of our time: the existence of extraterrestrial life. Would aliens challenge belief in God—or deepen it? How do the Muslim and Christian approach the idea of life beyond Earth? And what would it mean for humanity’s place in creation?Through an honest and respectful conversation, we dive into theology, philosophy, and science. Whether you’re curious, skeptical, or deeply rooted in your faith, this episode invites you to think bigger about the universe—and your place in it.For more, check out our Patreon here. -
Does the Bible Prove Universalism? The Hell Debate 2.0 10.03.2026 1h 15mLast week, we released part 1 of our debate with David Artman of the Grace Saves All podcast about universalism, the view that all will eventually be saved. This week, we dive into Scripture to ask: What does the Bible say?Is the traditional view of Hell a myth? And does Scripture actually reveal a much more optimistic view of the future? Pull out your Bibles and get ready for some fireworks as we debate this "fiery" topic together.For access to our Patreon and a load of extra content, click here! -
Universalism Strikes Back: The Fiery Debate That’s Dividing Christianity 03.03.2026 54mIs universalism a modern innovation, or a recovery of an ancient hope? Can hell survive serious theological scrutiny? And if Christ is truly victorious, what does that mean for the destiny of all?We're joined by David Artman, host of the Grace Saves All podcast, for another debate on whether Hell is a bastion of everlasting torment or, perhaps, something different. This is only part one of the debate. Click here for early access to part two. -
Flying Nuns and Teleporting Monks: Christianity's Most Unbelievable Miracles? 17.02.2026 1h 2mAt the heart of the Christian faith stands a miracle: the resurrection of Christ. Yet despite the centrality of this event to the faith, many Christians have been skeptical of other miraculous claims from across the centuries. Yet history doesn't give us license to ignore such claims. In fact, accounts of saints floating through the air in front of hundreds of onlookers or bilocating to places hundreds of miles away are not infrequent and challenge many of our assumptions about the world.And it's not just the ignorant who believe this. Carlos Eire, a Yale historian, has recently published the book They Flew, detailing these stories, and he joins us today to recount the remarkable tales of flying nuns and teleporting monks.
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