Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
The Ringer
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Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.
Episodes
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Jay-Z Returns to Beef With Drake, Plus Trump’s Failed Concert Series 02.06.2026 1h 53mVan and Rachel react to Jay-Z’s freestyle at the Roots Picnic, and Donald Trump taking two public L's in the lead-up to his Freedom 250 festival. Plus a check-in on the L.A. mayoral race, and an Atlanta judge and police deputy chief’s noisy sexual encounters get exposed. (0:00) Intro (19:12) Jay-Z freestyle (42:57) Trump cancelling concert (52:27) Removal of Trump’s name from Kennedy Center (1:00:06) Spencer Pratt’s appeal (1:24:47) Courtroom sex affair (1:34:52) The return of Mountain Lion (1:39:30) Give up your section for Lil Baby? Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Kevin Hart: Black Culture Vs. Comedy Culture, and Spencer Pratt’s Mayoral Bid 29.05.2026 2h 4mVan and Rachel are back from the holiday break to react to Kevin Hart's response to problematic jokes at his roast, updates in the fight against redistricting, and Spencer Pratt’s appeal to L.A. voters. Plus Jaxson Dart’s MAGA moves, and Ray J gets KO'd. (0:00) Intro (15:54) Kevin Hart responds to roast critics (41:20) Iran conflict update (56:40) The redistricting battle (1:12:37) White wine spritzers (1:21:13) Spencer Pratt on homelessness (1:38:31) Jaxson Dart, Abdul Carter, and MAGA (1:49:03) Ray J’s knockout Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Is Hip-Hop Still Fun? Plus the DNC’s Autopsy Report and “Dr.” Cheyenne Bryant’s Alleged Title 22.05.2026 2h 6mVan and Rachel react to the results of this week’s primary races and the release of the DNC Autopsy report of the 2024 election. Plus Chelsea Handler on racist jokes, Cheyenne Bryant’s doctoral backlash, and Michelle Obama on MAGA. (0:00) Intro (0:18) Is Hip-Hop still fun? (15:47) Primary election reactions (28:10) The DNC’s 2024 election autopsy (51:04) Chelsea Handler, race and roasts (1:10:13) “Dr.” Cheyenne Bryant (1:29:08) Michelle Obama on the MAGA movement (1:52:42) Trump’s J6 “slush fund” Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Drake’s ‘Iceman’ Album Review. Plus, Tom Steyer’s Plan for California. 19.05.2026 2h 6mVan and Rachel review Drake’s highly anticipated new album, ‘Iceman.’ Did it live up to the hype? Then they discuss a white college student’s alleged scheme to attract Black athletes before gubernatorial candidate Tom Steyer joins the podcast to shed light on his potential policies for the Golden State. (0:00) Intro (8:33) ‘Iceman’ album review (35:06) Black athlete scheme (54:59) Tom Steyer joins the show (1:56:00) Polls in CA races Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Tom Steyer Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Chud the Builder Shot, and SEC Boycott? Plus, Tiffany D. Cross on Womanhood 15.05.2026 2h 40mVan and Rachel react to Jason Lee and Peter Rosenberg’s "culture vulture" conversation and the AKA’s being upset with Rachel, before discussing Chud the Builder's shooting and arrest and calls for student-athletes to boycott SEC schools. Then author Tiffany D. Cross joins to talk about her new book, ‘Love, Me: A Letter to Black Women in a Toxic Country, Career, and Relationship.’ (0:00) Intro (13:47) Jason Lee, Peter Rosenberg and culture vulture accusations (27:12) AKA Sorority Inc. backlash (35:29) Chud the Builder shooting (45:57) SEC boycott (1:02:10) Tiffany D. Cross joins the show (1:07:56) What to love about being a Black woman (1:35:49) Black and interracial love (1:59:19) Scott Jennings and platforming conservatives Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Tiffany D. Cross Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Kevin and Katt Squash the Beef, Stephen A.’s Wish, and ABC vs. Trump’s FCC 12.05.2026 1h 54mVan and Rachel recap ‘The Roast of Kevin Hart’ and discuss this era of gerrymandering and ABC challenging the FCC. Then, Stephen A. Smith has a wish for Black voters, James Charles apologizes, and Caitlin Clark does the Morgan Wallen walk. (0:00) Intro (0:14) 'The Roast of Kevin Hart' (17:27) Virginia redistricting ruling (36:04) ABC vs. the FCC (48:02) Stephen A. Smith and the Black vote (1:02:29) James Charles berates former Spirit Airlines employee (1:33:28) Caitlin Clark and Morgan Wallen (1:43:03) A white, MAGA member of AKA sorority? Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Stefon Diggs Not Guilty, the Return of Migos, and Do We Need the Met Gala? 08.05.2026 2h 4mVan and Rachel react to the verdict in the Stefon Diggs case before discussing the Bezos backlash at the Met Gala. Plus, Quavo and Offset tease new music, and Van has a brand-new VanLaTEN list. (0:00) Intro (4:33) Responding to viral racism (15:10) Stefon Diggs found not guilty (29:47) The Met Gala and Jeff Bezos (42:53) MrBeast birthday love (54:41) New music from Migos? (1:00:12) L.A. mayoral debate (1:16:08) Dana White on masculinity and mental health (1:26:29) Dianna Russini–Mike Vrabel update (1:37:44) VanLaTEN: Top cults Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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RIP ‘Love & Hip-Hop,’ Scott Jennings on CNN, and a Colorism Conversation 05.05.2026 2h 3mVan and Rachel look back on the legacy of 'Love & Hip-Hop' before reacting to the pausing of Post Malone and Jelly Roll’s stadium tour. Plus, Scott Jennings gets flustered on CNN and Fernando Mendoza skips the White House visit, before a conversation about colorism and Blackness. (0:00) Intro (17:37) The end of ‘Love & Hip-Hop’ (32:37) Post Malone and Jelly Roll cancellations (44:51) Scott Jennings and CNN’s ‘Newsnight’ (1:06:27) Fernando Mendoza and the White House (1:23:19) Colorism and Blackness Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Druski, the Most Consequential Comedian? Plus: L.A. Mayor Karen Bass on Wildfires, Housing, and a Second Term 01.05.2026 2h 8mVan and Rachel react to the news of Druski hosting the BET Awards before discussing the Supreme Court’s latest blow against the Voting Rights Act. Then L.A. Mayor Karen Bass joins to answer questions about her plan for the city in a second term. (0:00) Intro (0:14) Druski hosting BET Awards (9:26) A Megan and Klay Thompson talk pt. 2 (21:31) The Supreme Court and voting rights (53:40) Mayor Karen Bass joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Mayor Karen Bass Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Meg and Klay’s Breakup and Trump’s Second Shooting Attempt? Plus, Durand Bernarr on Stardom 28.04.2026 2h 20mVan and Rachel discuss distrust around the White House Correspondents’ Dinner shooting, before reacting to cheating allegations from Megan Thee Stallion about Klay Thompson. Then, Grammy Award-winning artist Durand Bernarr stops by to shed light on being “everyone’s favorite cousin,” before comedian Aida Rodriguez joins to preview Van’s upcoming standup set. (0:00) Intro (1:34) White House Correspondents’ Dinner shooting (19:46) Megan Thee Stallion and Klay Thompson’s breakup (56:30) Durand Bernarr joins the show (1:48:57) Aida Rodriguez on Van’s attempt at standup comedy (2:13:18) Stephen A. Smith’s HR violation Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Durand Bernarr and Aida Rodriguez Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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‘Michael’ Review, ‘Iceman’ Preview, and Kendrick Sampson on Quincy Jones and Black Creativity 24.04.2026 2h 9m‘Michael’ Review, ‘Iceman’ Preview, and Kendrick Sampson on Quincy Jones and Black Creativity Van and Rachel give a review of the Michael Jackson biopic before digging into theories about Drake’s upcoming album. Plus, they give a recap of the California gubernatorial debate before actor Kendrick Sampson joins to give insight on his portrayal of Quincy Jones in the film ‘Michael.’ (0:00) Intro (8:08) ‘Michael’ review (33:06) ‘Iceman’ preview (48:22) California gubernatorial debate (1:02:59) Kendrick Sampson joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Kendrick Sampson Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Netflix’s ‘Man on Fire’ With Yahya Abdul-Mateen II and Steven Caple Jr. 23.04.2026 34mVan and Rachel sit down with the star and director of the new Netflix series ‘Man on Fire’ following a screening of the show’s first episode. Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Yahya Abdul-Mateen II and Steven Caple Jr. Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Roland Martin’s Deleted Post and Jamilah Lemieux on Black Relationships 21.04.2026 2h 19mVan and Rachel react to Mary J. Blige’s comments on her 2012 Burger King commercial before discussing Roland Martin’s response to Justin Fairfax killing his wife, Cerina, and then himself. Then writer Jamilah Lemieux joins to talk about her new book, ‘Black. Single. Mother.: Real Life Tales of Longing and Belonging.’ (0:00) Intro (4:49) Mary J. Blige’s Burger King commercial (16:04) Roland Martin’s response to the Fairfax murder-suicide (46:06) Jamilah Lemieux joins the show (48:16) Shame in being a single mom? (1:02:29) A conversation about Black women and men (1:33:08) Decentering men (1:55:59) Should a man check his friends? Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Jamilah Lemieux Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Decency and Dave Chappelle. Plus, Should Former Trump Allies Be Embraced? 17.04.2026 2h 14mVan and Rachel discuss the mysterious circumstances around the death of an influencer before diving into Dave Chappelle’s interview with NPR and Democratic Representative Ilhan Omar’s comments on embracing Trump allies. Plus, an argument for Trump being the Antichrist. Then, Michael Tubbs, a candidate for lieutenant governor of California, joins the show. (0:00) Intro (06:38) The mysterious death of an influencer (13:49) Dave Chappelle's NPR interview (37:26) Representative Ilhan Omar on former Trump allies (1:05:42) Pete Hegseth’s ‘Pulp Fiction’ prayer (1:15:07) Tamera Mowry and Threads (1:18:18) Michael Tubbs joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Michael Tubbs Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett This just in, the Comcast Business Price Lock Guarantee is back. For a limited time you can lock in the same great rate on gig speed internet and advanced security for 5 years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Coachella, Afrika Bambaataa, and Their Lord and Savior Donald Trump 14.04.2026 1h 57mVan and Rachel recap the first weekend of Coachella, before discussing Afrika Bambaataa’s legacy and reported history of abuse. Then, Trump shares an image of himself as Dr. Christ, Gucci Mane releases a diss track, and the church gets lit. (0:00) Intro (2:54) Coachella recap: Justin Bieber (11:47) Coachella recap: Sabrina Carpenter (22:54) The legacy of Afrika Bambaataa (42:18) Rep. Eric Swalwell suspends campaign (51:59) Van makes an endorsement for Governor of CA (58:07) Trump’s Jesus post (1:11:07) Gucci Mane’s Pooh Shiesty diss (1:38:41) Travis Scott’s FEIN and the church (1:49:27) Mysterious death of influencer Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Offset and the State of Hip-Hop in ATL. Plus, Trump’s Ceasefire in Iran 10.04.2026 2h 14mVan and Rachel react to the shooting of the rapper Offset before welcoming HuffPost’s Akbar Shahid Ahmed to discuss the latest on the conflict in Iran. Then, actor Mark Kassen joins to discuss his newest film, ‘PH-1.’ (0:00) Intro (1:10) Jake Paul and blackface (7:11) Offset’s shooting (10:33) The state of Atlanta hip-hop (17:12) Akbar Shahid Ahmed joins the show (43:45) Kanye and the cancellation of Wireless Fest (51:59) Peak white mess: Mike Vrabel and Dianna Russini (59:25) Rachel vs. the AKAs (1:07:35) Mark Kassen joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Akbar Shahid Ahmed and Mark Kassen Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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LeBron James vs. Memphis. Plus, Joe Rogan and Theo Von on the War in Iran 07.04.2026 2h 20mVan and Rachel discuss NBA players' dislike for staying in Memphis before reacting to Trump’s Easter message about Iran and Edward Blum’s fight against civil rights. (0:00) Intro (22:21) The NBA vs. Memphis (41:19) Trump’s Easter message (59:30) Joe Rogan and Theo Von on Iran (1:23:10) Edward Blum’s latest lawsuit (1:37:52) Sponsors and Kanye West (2:03:18) Trick Daddy vs. the AKAs Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Pam Bondi Fired, the Kidnapping of Gucci Mane, and Underage Dating: Brandy and Wanya Morris 03.04.2026 2h 23mVan and Rachel discuss the firing of Attorney General Pam Bondi and revelations about former DHS Secretary Kristi Noem’s husband before reacting to the arrest of Pooh Shiesty. Plus a discussion of Jaden Ivey, Brandy and Wanya Morris’s relationship and Deontay Wilder’s wild comments. (0:00) Intro (0:54) AG Pam Bondi fired (26:06) Trump’s prime-time address (43:19) Kristi Noem’s husband and ‘bimbofication’ (1:09:33) Pooh Shiesty’s arrest (1:26:42) Jaden Ivey waived after IG posts (1:41:50) Brandy and Wanya Morris (2:07:55) Deontay Wilder viral statements Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Black Republican Celebrities, Plus Butch Ware: the Black Muslim Revolutionary Candidate 31.03.2026 3h 11mVan and Rachel react to Chilli’s rejection of the MAGA label, the politics of Nick Cannon and Amber Rose, and the latest music from Kanye West. Then, California gubernatorial candidate Dr. Butch Ware joins to discuss the two-party system and his plan for the communities of the state. (0:00) Intro (6:16) Black Republicans (13:02) Chilli denies being "MAGA" (35:52) The politics of Amber Rose and Nick Cannon (1:15:12) Ye’s ‘Bully’ album review (1:26:12) Dr. Butch Ware joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Dr. Butch Ware Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Capitalism, Beef and Jay-Z, Usher Praises Diddy, Plus a ’Beauty in Black’ Conversation 27.03.2026 2h 24mVan and Rachel react to the latest from the LaRussell controversy before discussing Jay-Z’s interview with GQ and Usher’s comments on Diddy. Then, actresses Taylor Polidore Williams and Crystle Stewart from Netflix’s ‘Beauty in Black’ join the show. (0:00) Intro (9:05) Social media addiction ruling (21:47) NBA salary cap (30:48) Druski’s “conservative women” skit (49:04) LaRussell controversy (1:02:44) Jay-Z, capitalism, and beef (1:29:15) Usher on Diddy (1:53:10) Taylor Polidore Williams and Crystle Stewart join the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Taylor Polidore Williams and Crystle Stewart Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett This just in, the Comcast Business Price Lock Guarantee is back. For a limited time you can lock in the same great rate on gig speed internet and advanced security for 5 years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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