Was I in a Cult?

Was I in a Cult?

Liz Iacuzzi
Country USA
Genres True Crime, Comedy
Language EN
Episodes 153
Latest 25.05.2026

Hosted by Tyler Measom and Liz Iacuzzi, Was I In A Cult? is a documentary-style podcast showcasing individuals who have been in, and most importantly, successfully left a cult. Told first-hand by the experiencer themself, these are raw, riveting and inspirational tales of what it means to be a survivor. Using levity and info-tainment, the show humanizes the cultic experience and may leave some of our listeners asking themselves "Wait, Was I In A Cult?"

Episodes

  • ATTENTION LISTENERS: SLIGHT EPISODE RELEASE DELAY 25.05.2026
    Hi faithful listeners -  We're going to have to delay release of this episode until we get a behind the scenes technical issue sorted out. Please don't look behind the red curtain.
  • OneTaste: "Empire of Orgasm" 25.05.2026 58m
    NOTE: This episode discusses sex, sexual exploitation, coercion, and sexual abuse.  What happens when female empowerment, Silicon Valley startup culture, spiritual enlightenment, and clitoral stroking walk into a fluorescent-lit conference room? You get OneTaste. In this episode, we sit down with Bloomberg investigative journalist Ellen Huet, author of Empire of Orgasm: Sex, Power, and the Downfall of a Wellness Cult, to unpack the rise and fall of OneTaste, the orgasmic meditation company founded by Nicole Daedone that promised connection, healing, and transformation through a 15-minute partnered orgasm practice called OM (Orgasmic Meditation). But behind the language of liberation and "turn-on" were allegations of sexual coercion, financial exploitation, sexual abuse, forced labor, and a belief system that taught members their discomfort was just something to push through on the path to enlightenment.  Ellen walks us through how her 2018 investigation helped expose the darker side of the company, the criminal case that followed, and why OneTaste's story is not just about sex. It's about power, belonging, manipulation, and the very human longing to be seen.   FIND ELLEN:  Instagram: @ehuet  Book: Empire of Orgasm: Sex, Power, and the Downfall of a Wellness Cult  Bloomberg: bloomberg.com/authors/ASmGayS_jTQ/ellen-huet__ ___________________________________ FOLLOW US  → For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude)   HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Swartzentruber Amish — PT2: "Promoted to Wearer of Jeans" 18.05.2026 59m
    CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses sexual assault. Not in graphic detail, but please listen accordingly. For 19 years, Lizzie Ens lived in one of the most conservative Amish sects in America: the Swartzentruber Amish. Last week you learned about her upbringing and all facets of living a life off the grid with no electricity, no indoor plumbing, and very little autonomy over her own life. In Part 2, the horse-and-buggy postcard version of Amish life disappears fast. Lizzie takes us inside the bizarre dating ritual called "bundling," and into the darker corners of the community — sexual assault, shunning, suppression, and the impossible weight of knowing that leaving means leaving everything behind. Including her twin sister. Eventually, she realizes something terrifying: if she doesn't escape now… she may never escape at all.   What follows is one of the wildest escape stories we've ever covered. __________________________________ RESOURCES: RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) Bailing Out Benji __________________________________ FIND LIZZIE: Instagram: @lizzieens_wellness / TikTok: @lizzieh_wellness Book: Amish Renegade: The Anthropology of an Amish Girl Turned Global CEO Website: undietyou.com _____________________________________ FOLLOW US  → For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude) HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Swartzentruber Amish — PT1: "Promoted to Housework" 11.05.2026 1h 2m
    Many people picture a peaceful, technology-free life of butter churning, candle making, and horse-drawn buggies. But for today's guest, the reality behind the plain dresses and pastoral image was far more restrictive, and far more dangerous. Lizzie grew up in one of the strictest Amish sects in the country: the Swartzentruber Amish. No electricity. No indoor plumbing. No music. No photographs. No Rumspringa. And absolutely no preparation for life outside the community. In this first part of a two-part conversation, Lizzie shares what it was like growing up under intense control, the rigid rules imposed on women, and how isolation and fear kept members obedient. She also opens up about the early cracks in her belief system—and the impossible choices that eventually led her to attempt an escape. __________________________________ FIND LIZZIE: Instagram: @lizzieens_wellness / TikTok: @lizzieh_wellness Book: Amish Renegade: The Anthropology of an Amish Girl Turned Global CEO Website: undietyou.com _____________________________________ FOLLOW US  → For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude)   HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Christian Patriarchy: "The OG 'Trad Wife'" 04.05.2026 57m
    Four hours into a hostage situation between a man and a woman, the man walks out the door. In that moment, the woman's primal instinct kicks in: "Grab your kids and RUN."  Later, she learns that action may have saved her life. He wasn't just leaving. He was going to get a gun. And the man? It was her husband. At 33-years-old, Tia Levings walked away from the Christian Patriarchy system that dictated her body, her voice, and her life for 13 years. If there were ever a guest who embodies the entire ethos of this show, it's Tia Levings. A badass is an understatement. Now a New York Times bestselling author of "A Well-Trained Wife" and featured in "Shiny Happy People," Tia joins us to unpack:  'Trad wives' and how this movement is far from just churned butter on Instagram. The wedding night she finally has language for. The daughter she lost. How, and more importantly why, the Christian Patriarchy movement has surged over the past decade. And her new book. "I Belong to Me." The survival guide she wishes she had access to when she first got out. It's now our #1 recommendation for anyone leaving a high-control group. A non-judgmental, non-preachy, non-guru self-help book? Who knew?! Tia is brilliant, funny, and unflinchingly honest. And if you leave with one thing, let it be her words: "If you can't speak in your power, you can't f*ck in your power."  NOTE to our Patreon subscribers: You can watch the full, unedited two-and-a-half-hour interview with Tia now on our Patreon. Thank you for being on this journey with us. FIND TIA: Website: tialevings.com Socials @TiaLevingsWriter: Instagram, TikTok, Facebook Substack: tialevings.substack.com — where she does real-time religious deconstruction TIA'S BOOKS: "I Belong to Me: A Survivor's Guide to Recovery and Hope After Religious Trauma" "A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy" (now in paperback)   FOLLOW US  → For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude)   HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Shen Yun/Falun Gong is Still a Cult! Pt2 [UPDATE] 13.04.2026 59m
    **PLEASE NOTE: This episode originally aired in Oct 2024. Since, there have been quite a few updates to both the cult and story. Tune into the episode to hear more.** ____ In Part 2 of Angela's story, the realities of Falun Gong's grip on her family deepen. Angela reflects on the emotional toll of a cult that prioritized spiritual salvation over physical health—even as her mother's condition worsens. But escaping isn't easy when your family remains deep in the cult's ideologies… Angela's journey out of this cult is filled with heartbreaking revelations and the resilience that defines a true "surthirver." _____ FOLLOW US  → For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude) HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • SHOW ANNOUNCEMENT & Shen Yun/Falun Gong is Still a Cult! Pt1 [UPDATE] 13.04.2026 1h 4m
    **PLEASE NOTE: This episode originally aired in Oct 2024. Since, there have been quite a few updates to both the cult and story. Tune into the episode to hear more.** ____ When her mother fell sick, young Angela had no idea that she would spend her childhood growing up in a dangerous cult. Falun Gong, a Chinese spiritual movement-slash-religion-slash-cult, known for its Shen Yun dancers and its ties to 'The Epoch Times' entangled her family in its facade of meditation and enlightenment. In this two-part episode, Angela recounts her experience in a world where karma is not just a bitch, but a force that can dictate life and death… with suffering seen as a path to salvation and modern medicine demonized as an obstacle to spiritual purity. And just when you think it can't get any wilder, the Capitol Insurrection storms into the story…  This is Part 1 of Angela's powerful story.  _____ FOLLOW US  → For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude) HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Jehovah's Witnesses: "Michael Jackson Was Just 'Michael' to Me" 30.03.2026 1h 3m
    As a young teenager, Darls Centola was searching for something steady in a chaotic world. What she found was the Jehovah's Witnesses—a religion that felt warm, structured, and safe. What she didn't expect to find… was him. Not the King of Pop. Not the global icon. Not Michael Jackson.  Just Michael.  A shy, curious, thoughtful teenage boy looking to her for religious guidance.  What unfolds is almost impossibly pure. Two kids hiding behind their school not to smoke pot, but to talk about faith and opening orphanages one day—all while trying (and failing) to suppress feelings they aren't allowed to feel.  Because inside their dogma, a crush isn't just a crush. It could get you killed at Armageddon. And as their bond deepens... so does the control.  Until the belief system that brought them together… is the very thing that tears them apart. This isn't a story about fame. It's not a takedown. And it's not a defense. It's about first love.  And a deeply human, intimate look at a version of someone the world thinks it already understands, set against the very real, very damaging impact of cult abuse. And the uncomfortable truth that both light and darkness can exist at the same time. ______________ Today, Darls Centola is a licensed clinical social worker, educator and EMDR consultant with a focus on the impact of spiritual abuse and high control systems.  She has written a memoir about the innocent and heartbreaking time in her life inside a cult with teenage Michael Jackson from the POV of that young girl. A time that didn't just change her life... but may have quietly shaped his too. Purchase Darls' memoir here: "Finding Truth with Michael: A Memoir of Friendship, Faith and First Love" Find Darls' workbook and other resources on her website: findingtruthwithmichael.com  FOLLOW US  → For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude) HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Online Vampire Cult - Pt2: "404: Vampire Not Found" 23.03.2026 51m
    If Part 1 was the seduction… this is the unraveling. By now, Celeste is fully in - the "true believer" phase we like to call it. The relationships feel real. The stakes feel real. And the consequences for questioning it? Also very real. Because inside this world, there are rules. Rewards for loyalty. Punishments for doubt. And what once felt magical begins to shift. The cracks start to show. And Celeste is forced to confront a terrifying possibility: What if none of this is real? What follows is a slow, psychological tug-of-war between belief and reality - until one discovery changes everything. After all, the most shocking part wasn't that there were vampires on the internet. It was who was pretending to be them.  ______ FOLLOW CELESTE → Instagram @celestemott | Tiktok @celestemoth FOLLOW US  → For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude) HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Online Vampire Cult - Pt1: "Armand Has Entered The Chat" 23.03.2026 56m
    At 16, Celeste Mott was alone, grieving, and searching - for meaning, for connection, for something that felt bigger than her small, suburban life. And then she found them. An online world inspired by Anne Rice. Dark. Seductive. Intelligent. A place where vampires weren't just characters… they were real. Or at least—that's what they lead her to believe. This was the early 2000s internet— before social media, before real names, before anyone was asking who's actually behind the screen. Message boards. Chat rooms. Total anonymity. The perfect environment for something to take hold… unnoticed. What begins as a message board for Anne Rice fans, transforms into something far darker. Something that on the surface, sounds completely unbelievable. Except not when you know how cults operate.  Because this wasn't just fandom. This was belonging. This was identity. This was… a promise. And like every good cult—it knew exactly what she needed to hear. This is Part 1 of 2.   ______ FOLLOW CELESTE → Instagram @celestemott | Tiktok @celestemoth FOLLOW US  → For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude) HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Boys Christian League: "Training Boys for God's Army" 09.03.2026 1h 5m
    Michelle Dowd was born into a cult that was literally training boys to fight in God's army when the apocalypse came. It started in sunny Pasadena, California when her grandfather - a former Boy Scout leader - decided the Scouts weren't strict enough and built his own organization. Boys were recruited young, drilled like soldiers, and raised to believe they were preparing for the end of the world. Michelle grew up inside the group known as "The Field," running miles before breakfast, enduring military-style obedience drills, selling candy to fund the movement, and eventually living for years on a remote mountain with basically no formal education. What eventually happened is almost unbelievable: a secret college application, a full scholarship, and a cult survivor with no formal education… to becoming a professor teaching critical thinking. Michelle Dowd is now a writer and the author of Forager: Field Notes for Surviving a Family Cult. _____________________________________ MICHELLE DOWD LINKS → Instagram @michelledowdz |  Subscribe to Michelle's FREE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER Listen to Michelle's book "Forager" on SPOTIFY FOR FREE Pick up a copy of Forager: Field Notes for Surviving a Family Cult" Michelle's NYT Modern Love essay: "Love in a Time of Low Expectations" *** Tyler's mascot book mention: Where Are the Fighting Giraffes? by David Winder FOLLOW US  For more culty content - follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude) HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • OneTaste: "Was I in a Sex Cult?" 02.03.2026 1h 7m
    Star Stone walked into a fluorescent-lit room on Market Street in San Francisco where a man who looked like Mark Zuckerberg stroked a woman's clitoris in business casual while thirty people watched. "This is it. This is what I need," she thought. It wasn't. See, Star didn't join a cult (newsflash, no one does). She joined a sex-positive, orgasm-as-spiritual-practice kind of movement founded by a woman, for women. It was called OneTaste. It promised female empowerment. But what it delivered was sexual trauma. Thanks, Nicole Daedone! Star Stone shares her story with the kind of honesty and dark humor that made us fall in love with her immediately. This isn't trauma porn - this is what happens when groups take your desire for connection, belonging, and sexual empowerment and weaponize it. Star was a joy to have on the show. Be sure to check out her solo comedy show, "Cl*t Cult," premiering this April at New York Fringe. And don't worry... she promised to come back and tell us everything that happened at "the Land" after her show premieres. _____________________________________  GET TICKETS TO CL*T CULT April 2–10 at the Wild Project, East Village, NYC  FOLLOW STAR For more from Star → Instagram @starstonespeaks |  FOLLOW US  For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude) HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Mormonism w/David Archuleta—Pt2: "Dev-OUT" 23.02.2026 1h 7m
    In Part 1, David Archuleta was the church's golden boy - the voice, the fame, the perfect Mormon billboard. In Part 2, that billboard comes down. David goes on a two-year Mormon mission to Chile post fame, confronts the darkest chapter of his life, and finally faces the one thing he spent decades praying would go away. Tyler gets personal about his own loss. And David sings for us again.  DAVID'S NEW MEMOIR DEVOUT  is now available.  FOLLOW US  For more culty content - follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult FOLLOW DAVID @Davidarchie  GET THE BOOK DEVOUT by David Archuleta - available everywhere books are sold. Audiobook includes a bonus EP of original songs. (Squeal!) SUPPORT THE SHOW Join our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. (And our forever gratitude) HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988. The Trevor Project is available 24/7 at thetrevorproject.org/get-help or text START to 678-678.
  • Mormonism w/David Archuleta-PT1: "America's Mormon Idol" 17.02.2026 1h 4m
    David Archuleta was seventeen years old, Mormon to his core, and singing in front of thirty million people on American Idol. America saw the golden boy - the angel voice, the humble smile, the kid who made grown adults cry on national television. What they didn't see was the father who controlled every note, every decision, every version of David he was allowed to be. "I basically was his puppet."  Behind the fame was the sweetest kid grappling with his own sexuality because his church told him who he was allowed to love, and who he wanted to love wasn't on their yes list. David believed that if he just prayed hard enough, God would "fix" the one thing about himself he'd been taught to hate. Spoiler: God had other plans. Today is Part 1 of his story... it wrecked us in the best way.  Part 2 is available NOW exclusively for PATREON members.  DAVID'S NEW MEMOIR DEVOUT  is now available.  FOLLOW US  For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult FOLLOW DAVID @Davidarchie  GET THE BOOK DEVOUT by David Archuleta - available everywhere books are sold. Audiobook includes a bonus EP of original songs. (Squeal!) SUPPORT THE SHOW Get PART 2 of David's story RIGHT NOW a week EARLY by joining our Patreon! Get ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • The Order: "Feel Like a Number" [Re-Release] 09.02.2026 1h 3m
    When you're numbered among the Lord's anointed, you're supposed to feel special, but for Jeremy Tucker, he was just another mindless cog in the machine of the Kingdom of God. It didn't matter though, he would work hard to do his part, until that hard work nearly cost him his life...   FOLLOW US  For more culty content - follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW Rate, review, share. Join us on Patreon for ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com From guest producer Lindsay Hansen Park.   https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/ https://sunstone.org/sunstone-history-podcast/ https://www.tiktok.com/@lindsayhansenpark?lang=en
  • Scientology—Pt2: "Not Today, Xenu" 02.02.2026 58m
    Her stepfather told her: "Your child will be a fourth generation Scientologist whether you like it or not." That was the threat. This is the fight. In Part 2, Liz Gale tells us what happened to her brother - and what finally made her walk away from everything. Her family. Her inheritance. Land her ancestors homesteaded on the Oregon Trail. All of it. Gone. Because she finally said… Oh, hell no. You got me, but you don't get my kids.  This episode is a warning. Scientology is still ever-present. They're in your kids' schools. They're hiding behind interfaith councils and "study technology." And the biggest thing standing in their way? Apparently mothers who trust their intuition. Mama bears, this one's for you. FOLLOW US  For more culty content - follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult FOLLOW LIZ GALE  Find Liz on TikTok → @liz_liz_gale_gale & Instagram. Her book Confessions of an Ex-Scientologist Pothead is available now. SUPPORT THE SHOW Rate, review, share. Join us on Patreon for ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Scientology - Pt1: "Mom, I Am Your Mother" 27.01.2026 1h 6m
    This week we're back on Scientology. And until they stop destroying families and draining bank accounts, we'll keep talking about it. Liz Gale, a third generation ex-Scientologist and author of Confessions of an Ex-Scientologist Pothead, grew up privileged in the church in the 80s and 90s - Scientology royalty, some could say, connected to the Miscavige family, boarding schools, the works. But privilege doesn't protect you when the doctrine teaches your mother that loving you too much is dangerous. That comforting you when you're hurt will damage your soul. That sending you away at eight years old is the most maternal thing she can do to protect you from traumatizing you more. This is a story about what happens when a "religion" crawls between a mother and her child and severs the most primal bond we have. Liz is funny as hell. She's also been through hell. And she's not done talking. This is Part 1 of 2. Listen, then call your kids and tell them you love them. FOLLOW US  For more culty content - follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult FOLLOW LIZ GALE  Find Liz on TikTok → @liz_liz_gale_gale & Instagram. Her book Confessions of an Ex-Scientologist Pothead is available now. SUPPORT THE SHOW Rate, review, share. Join us on Patreon for ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. HAVE A CULTY STORY? Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Liz's Story—Pt2: "Kick 'Em in the Cooch" 19.01.2026 59m
    So… remember that acting class? Well, turns out this "human behavior expert" has her eyes on a much larger prize. I mean, you can't be the next Tony Robbins while just teaching scene analysis. In Part 2 of Liz's story, Sandy's world shifts into trying to become what it's been after all along: a spiritual self-help empire. Except this one is built on word salad, public humiliation, and the slow, steady squeeze of control. (Spoiler: Her goal never "manifested")  In this shift, the class expands beyond Los Angeles… all the way across the world to India. Because when you're in a class to learn scene analysis, the obvious next step is a spiritual retreat. The language changes. The pressure shifts. And suddenly, "transformation" comes with a hefty price tag. A world where boundary crossing is reframed as growth and the cost of admission is total and complete loyalty. And if you can't afford it? No worries. Just sell your car. One student did.  And if you learn nothing else - as Liz would tell you, when someone slaps you in India, kick 'em in the cooch. _______ FOLLOW US For more culty content - follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW If you believe in what we're doing - shining a light on manipulation, coercive control, and cultic abuse - please rate, review, and share the podcast. Want even more? Join us on Patreon for ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. HAVE A CULTY STORY TO SHARE? If you've been part of a cult - we want to hear from you. Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • Liz's Story - Pt1: "Hollyweirdest" 12.01.2026 1h 2m
    Either Liz finally stepped up to the mic to tell her own story… or Tyler finally cornered her and hit record. Either way — it's happening. After moving to Los Angeles with a toxic boyfriend, Liz leaves behind the Chicago comedy scene and finds herself nudged into a Hollywood acting class — one he introduces her to via a "free" class that's anything but. What starts as a supposedly legit acting class quickly earns a reputation as "the place where comedy goes to die." And yet… it's somehow worse than that. Because this "class" slowly morphs into a spiritual self-help cult. Yes. An acting class cult. No, she did not see it coming. And neither will you. In Part 1 of Liz's story, we dive into how this Chicagoan accidentally wandered into the hollyweirdest chapter of her life. _______ FOLLOW US For more culty content — follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult SUPPORT THE SHOW If you believe in what we're doing — shining a light on manipulation, coercive control, and cultic abuse — please rate, review, and share the podcast. Want even more? Join us on Patreon for ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. HAVE A CULTY STORY TO SHARE? If you've been part of a cult — we want to hear from you. Email us → info@wasiinacult.com
  • NXIVM Aftermath - Jessica Joan Returns: "Not My Monkey, Not My Circus" 05.01.2026 41m
    Four years after we first met her in our studio - just days after her victim impact statement in Alison Mack's NXIVM trial - Jessica Joan is back. Since we last spoke, Jessica shared her story on the Hulu docuseries "How I Escaped My Cult", and a lot has shifted: in her healing, in what "justice" means, and in what accountability actually looks like over time. This follow-up conversation was prompted by our recent interview with journalist Natalie Robehmed, host of the podcast "Alison After NXIVM", where listeners hear Alison speak publicly about NXIVM and her life post-prison. After that episode, it felt important to come back to Jessica - to hear directly from someone harmed by Alison, and to explore the messy questions of empathy, forgiveness, and what we're really asking for when we say we want "accountability." FOLLOW US For more culty content - follow us on Instagram & TikTok → @wasiinacult FIND JESSICA Get your copy of The Untouchable: Jessica Joan & the Downfall of NXIVM Check out her new website: www.thisisjessicajoan.com Instagram/TikTok: @thesirenandthesunflower SUPPORT THE SHOW If you believe in what we're doing - shining a light on manipulation, coercive control, and cultic abuse - please rate, review, and share the podcast. Want even more? Join us on Patreon for ad-free episodes, bonus content, and behind-the-scenes conversations. HAVE A CULTY STORY TO SHARE? If you've been part of a cult - we want to hear from you. Email us → info@wasiinacult.com

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